July 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] tests for FasterSets

by Cyrille Delaunay

Hi, I have saved some tests for A lot of subclasses of Dictionary and Set in 'PharoTaskForces'. Those tests only test basic behavior of a Set or a Dictionary. You will probably find errors and failures not due to fasterSets specificities : - uncommented classes - methods unclassified - class implementation bugs ( like smallDictionary . MethodDictionary ) - class specific behavior ( in this case, tests should maybe be rewriten).

July 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for testers of a faster MC

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks!!!! I will put some breakpoints now to see the difference with my code. On Jul 17, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Douglas Brebner wrote: > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> Ok it works >> >> >>> Preferences enable: #allowBlockArgumentAssignment. >>> Preferences disable: #raiseDepreciatedWarnings. >>> >>> Installer upgrade upgrade. >>> Installer install: 'UpgradeMonticelloBootstrap'. >>> >> >> Now which version is loaded....? >> >> >> > This should install the latest version of Installer, PackageInfo and > Monticello 1.5 > > You should get: > > From http://www.squeaksource.com/Installer > Installer-Core-kph.321.mcz > Installer-Scripts-kph.16.mcz > Installer-Formats-kph.4.mcz > > From http://www.squeaksource.com/mc/ > PackageInfo-Base-mtf.70.mcz > System-PasswordManager-kph.2.mcz (a dependency) > Monticello.impl-kph.643.mcz > > I tried this on the 10373 download and the latest 10379 images and it > just works. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo-Dev/web Image slowness

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I imagine that the snapshotting goes over the SourceFiles I also know that nicolas proposed a speed up of latin files. Stef On Jul 17, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Douglas Brebner wrote: > Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> Can you elaborate on what is slow? >> Is this only Pharo or also Squeak? >> >> > Anything that hits the changes file such as compiling or many MC > operations. > e.g. When you see the a popup saying "Snapshotting" it's time to go > get > something to eat. > And yes, it affects Squeak too. > > The speed difference between running it on a local hard drive and a > remote one is incredible. >> Adrian >> >> On Jul 17, 2009, at 01:07 , Douglas Brebner wrote: >> >> >>> StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> Ok we will fix that for 1.0 >>>> right now we are not even in beta. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> As a minor point, running Pharo on a network drive is *horrifically* >>> slow so don't do that :) >>> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for testers of a faster MC

by Douglas Brebner

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Ok it works > > >> Preferences enable: #allowBlockArgumentAssignment. >> Preferences disable: #raiseDepreciatedWarnings. >> >> Installer upgrade upgrade. >> Installer install: 'UpgradeMonticelloBootstrap'. >> > > Now which version is loaded....? > > > This should install the latest version of Installer, PackageInfo and Monticello 1.5 You should get: >From http://www.squeaksource.com/Installer Installer-Core-kph.321.mcz Installer-Scripts-kph.16.mcz Installer-Formats-kph.4.mcz >From http://www.squeaksource.com/mc/ PackageInfo-Base-mtf.70.mcz System-PasswordManager-kph.2.mcz (a dependency) Monticello.impl-kph.643.mcz I tried this on the 10373 download and the latest 10379 images and it just works.

July 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo-Dev/web Image slowness

by Michael Rueger

Douglas Brebner wrote: > Anything that hits the changes file such as compiling or many MC operations. > e.g. When you see the a popup saying "Snapshotting" it's time to go get > something to eat. > And yes, it affects Squeak too. Not only Squeak. Ever tried to open an OpenOffice document from a network drive? Michael

July 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo-Dev/web Image slowness

by Douglas Brebner

Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Can you elaborate on what is slow? > Is this only Pharo or also Squeak? > > Anything that hits the changes file such as compiling or many MC operations. e.g. When you see the a popup saying "Snapshotting" it's time to go get something to eat. And yes, it affects Squeak too. The speed difference between running it on a local hard drive and a remote one is incredible. > Adrian > > On Jul 17, 2009, at 01:07 , Douglas Brebner wrote: > > >> StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Ok we will fix that for 1.0 >>> right now we are not even in beta. >>> >>> >>> >> As a minor point, running Pharo on a network drive is *horrifically* >> slow so don't do that :) >>

July 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for testers of a faster MC

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Ok it works > Preferences enable: #allowBlockArgumentAssignment. > Preferences disable: #raiseDepreciatedWarnings. > > Installer upgrade upgrade. > Installer install: 'UpgradeMonticelloBootstrap'. Now which version is loaded....? Stef

July 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for testers of a faster MC

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>> >> > Stef if you want to load the source code direct from an mcz, Installer > can do it as in the following example. I loaded HTTPSocket httpFileIn: 'ftp.squeak.org/3.11/scripts/LPF.st'. but I could not find that method scriptUpgradeMonticelloBootstrap then I tried > (Installer url: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/mc/PackageInfo-Base') > fileInSource. broke on url: :( Then I did ScriptLoader new installingInstaller > (Installer url: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/mc/PackageInfo-Base') > fileInSource. broke MCZInstaller class Then I tried Installer install: 'LevelPlayingField' and it broke on me InstallerScripts..... So sorry but I do not suceed to load MC1.5 just to check why what I did does not work. I'm too stupid. SO I trashed my image and the time I lost too. > > scriptUpgradeMonticelloBootstrap > > (Installer url: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/mc/PackageInfo-Base') > fileInSource. > (Installer url: > 'http://www.squeaksource.com/mc/System-PasswordManager') fileInSource. > (Installer url: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/mc/', self class > configMCVersion,'.mcz') fileInSource. > > This is available in Installer install: 'UpgradeMonticelloBootstrap'. > > Damien loads MC1.5 via... > > Installer install: 'LevelPlayingField' > > this doesnt include Installer-Launcher which causes the above problem. > > Keith > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for testers of a faster MC

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> > > raiseDepreciatedWarnings=disabled (causes problems due to the Author > initials depreciation) > allowBlockArgumentAssignment=enabled (Breaks a method called > #unloadTraits. A convenience method that isn't used and isn't in the > image after the install is finished) > > then you can load MC 1.5 (with updated Installer) by using Keiths LPF > script. > > After setting the prefs, do the following: > > HTTPSocket httpFileIn: 'ftp.squeak.org/3.11/scripts/LPF.st'. I did that but it does not load MC1.5 I getting confused

July 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Where declared global reside... how can they be removed?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

john soon you will be able to get pharo by example :) Stef On Jul 17, 2009, at 2:22 AM, John Escobedo wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm new to both Smalltalk and especially to Pharo (and this mailing > list). > I have a very basic question and would like to be directed to more > info or a different mailing list if appropriate. > > For most tutorials (I'm using squeak tutorials), one does a lot of > work in a workspace. > > If I make a new global variable such as: > > MySquare := Morph new > > ...once I define "MySquare" as a global variable I know I can send it > many messages like: > > > MySquare openInWorld > MySquare color: Color yellow > > When I'm done and I close the workspace, save the image and save the > image. When I open it again it will know what "MySquare" is known in > any workspace. > > How do I remove "MySquare" and/or the associated object? > How could I see or find other such global variables? > > - John > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 17, 2009