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[Pharo-project] #10395

by Marcus Denker

#10395 ------ Issue 668: should clean the option-World click menu Issue 999: macos: fix OS menues to see the mac menus, please restart the image. -- Marcus Denker - http://marcusdenker.de PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

July 28, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items??

by Boris Popov

Like I said, tough crowd :) -Boris -- +1.604.689.0322 DeepCove Labs Ltd. 4th floor 595 Howe Street Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Igor Stasenko Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:01 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? 2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com>: > By that time free upgrade coupon would have arrived for the retail version, and new machines are entitled to it after June 26th, but I rest my case :) > Your statement having a severe semantic error: the words 'free' and 'Microsoft' can't be used together in same context :) > -Boris > > -- > +1.604.689.0322 > DeepCove Labs Ltd. > 4th floor 595 Howe Street > Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 > http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Igor Stasenko > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? > > 2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com>: >> Install Windows 7 RC and revert to Classic look. >> > which will refuse to boot after 1 Jan 2010. > Thanks, but No :) > >> -Boris >> >> -- >> +1.604.689.0322 >> DeepCove Labs Ltd. >> 4th floor 595 Howe Street >> Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 >> http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of >> Schwab,Wilhelm K >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:19 PM >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? >> >> Hello all, >> >> I finally bought a new machine. Â It arrived with a severe malware >> infection (Vista), and while I was tempted to blow it away w/o even so >> much as letting it boot, I decided to have a look. Â Is there anything I >> should try before the stampede of Penguins begins? >> >> In particular, is there any way to gag the animation/visual >> effects/whatever they call them? >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 28, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items??

by Igor Stasenko

2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com>: > By that time free upgrade coupon would have arrived for the retail version, and new machines are entitled to it after June 26th, but I rest my case :) > Your statement having a severe semantic error: the words 'free' and 'Microsoft' can't be used together in same context :) > -Boris > > -- > +1.604.689.0322 > DeepCove Labs Ltd. > 4th floor 595 Howe Street > Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 > http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Igor Stasenko > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? > > 2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com>: >> Install Windows 7 RC and revert to Classic look. >> > which will refuse to boot after 1 Jan 2010. > Thanks, but No :) > >> -Boris >> >> -- >> +1.604.689.0322 >> DeepCove Labs Ltd. >> 4th floor 595 Howe Street >> Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 >> http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of >> Schwab,Wilhelm K >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:19 PM >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? >> >> Hello all, >> >> I finally bought a new machine. Â It arrived with a severe malware >> infection (Vista), and while I was tempted to blow it away w/o even so >> much as letting it boot, I decided to have a look. Â Is there anything I >> should try before the stampede of Penguins begins? >> >> In particular, is there any way to gag the animation/visual >> effects/whatever they call them? >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

July 28, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items??

by Igor Stasenko

2009/7/29 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>: > Tough, but honest :) Â Compiz is an interesting idea, and this machine should have the horses to do a good job of it. Â FWIW, it probably would last only about a week, so I might not even bother. > > Just to be fair (well a little more complete) in my exposure to Vista, I might put QCad on it for some drafting that needs to get done today and tomorrow. Â After that, Tux arrives. > btw, to get vista work fast as close as to XP, disabling the UI quirks is not enough. Go to sevices and start disabling them one by one.. THere is a lot of crap which is enabled by default, but useless. Its only purpose to eat memory & CPU in order to keep oil prices high and continue global warming progress :) > Bill > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Boris Popov > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:27 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? > > What a tough crowd :) > > /me goes back to tuning his SQL Server > > -Boris > > -- > +1.604.689.0322 > DeepCove Labs Ltd. > 4th floor 595 Howe Street > Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 > http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:25 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? > > El mar, 28-07-2009 a las 18:19 -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K escribiÃ³: >> Hello all, >> >> I finally bought a new machine. Â It arrived with a severe malware infection (Vista), and while I was tempted to blow it away w/o even so much as letting it boot, I decided to have a look. Â Is there anything I should try before the stampede of Penguins begins? >> >> In particular, is there any way to gag the animation/visual effects/whatever they call them? >> >> Bill > > Not much to see, the solitaire I heard remains good and the notepad remains crap. You'll have a big clock and wheather and several gadgets more but, as any new windows install, you won't be able to do anything useful without installing several other apps before. I recommend to nuke it and install your penguin OS and try compiz for a similar experience. > > After a week or two you'll have enough of effects and you'll disable them (I promise) and you'll end with a normal machine, but without virus/malware. :) > > Miguel CobÃ¡ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

July 28, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items??

by Boris Popov

By that time free upgrade coupon would have arrived for the retail version, and new machines are entitled to it after June 26th, but I rest my case :) -Boris -- +1.604.689.0322 DeepCove Labs Ltd. 4th floor 595 Howe Street Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Igor Stasenko Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? 2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com>: > Install Windows 7 RC and revert to Classic look. > which will refuse to boot after 1 Jan 2010. Thanks, but No :) > -Boris > > -- > +1.604.689.0322 > DeepCove Labs Ltd. > 4th floor 595 Howe Street > Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 > http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of > Schwab,Wilhelm K > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:19 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? > > Hello all, > > I finally bought a new machine. Â It arrived with a severe malware > infection (Vista), and while I was tempted to blow it away w/o even so > much as letting it boot, I decided to have a look. Â Is there anything I > should try before the stampede of Penguins begins? > > In particular, is there any way to gag the animation/visual > effects/whatever they call them? > > Bill > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 28, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items??

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez

El mar, 28-07-2009 a las 17:25 -0500, Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez escribiÃ³: > El mar, 28-07-2009 a las 18:19 -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K escribiÃ³: > > Hello all, > > > > I finally bought a new machine. It arrived with a severe malware infection (Vista), and while I was tempted to blow it away w/o even so much as letting it boot, I decided to have a look. Is there anything I should try before the stampede of Penguins begins? > > > > In particular, is there any way to gag the animation/visual effects/whatever they call them? > > > > Bill > > Not much to see, the solitaire I heard remains good and the notepad > remains crap. You'll have a big clock and wheather and several gadgets > more but, as any new windows install, you won't be able to do anything > useful without installing several other apps before. I recommend to nuke > it and install your penguin OS and try compiz for a similar experience. > > After a week or two you'll have enough of effects and you'll disable > them (I promise) and you'll end with a normal machine, but without > virus/malware. :) > > Miguel CobÃ¡ > > Or, before the penguin attack, you can try SqueakNOS and reports success. Maybe, also Plan9 to tweak your mind a little Miguel CobÃ¡ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 28, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items??

by Igor Stasenko

2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com>: > Install Windows 7 RC and revert to Classic look. > which will refuse to boot after 1 Jan 2010. Thanks, but No :) > -Boris > > -- > +1.604.689.0322 > DeepCove Labs Ltd. > 4th floor 595 Howe Street > Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 > http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of > Schwab,Wilhelm K > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:19 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? > > Hello all, > > I finally bought a new machine. Â It arrived with a severe malware > infection (Vista), and while I was tempted to blow it away w/o even so > much as letting it boot, I decided to have a look. Â Is there anything I > should try before the stampede of Penguins begins? > > In particular, is there any way to gag the animation/visual > effects/whatever they call them? > > Bill > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

July 28, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items??

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Tough, but honest :) Compiz is an interesting idea, and this machine should have the horses to do a good job of it. FWIW, it probably would last only about a week, so I might not even bother. Just to be fair (well a little more complete) in my exposure to Vista, I might put QCad on it for some drafting that needs to get done today and tomorrow. After that, Tux arrives. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Boris Popov Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:27 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? What a tough crowd :) /me goes back to tuning his SQL Server -Boris -- +1.604.689.0322 DeepCove Labs Ltd. 4th floor 595 Howe Street Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:25 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? El mar, 28-07-2009 a las 18:19 -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K escribiÃ³: > Hello all, > > I finally bought a new machine. It arrived with a severe malware infection (Vista), and while I was tempted to blow it away w/o even so much as letting it boot, I decided to have a look. Is there anything I should try before the stampede of Penguins begins? > > In particular, is there any way to gag the animation/visual effects/whatever they call them? > > Bill Not much to see, the solitaire I heard remains good and the notepad remains crap. You'll have a big clock and wheather and several gadgets more but, as any new windows install, you won't be able to do anything useful without installing several other apps before. I recommend to nuke it and install your penguin OS and try compiz for a similar experience. After a week or two you'll have enough of effects and you'll disable them (I promise) and you'll end with a normal machine, but without virus/malware. :) Miguel CobÃ¡ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 28, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items??

by Boris Popov

What a tough crowd :) /me goes back to tuning his SQL Server -Boris -- +1.604.689.0322 DeepCove Labs Ltd. 4th floor 595 Howe Street Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:25 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? El mar, 28-07-2009 a las 18:19 -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K escribiÃ³: > Hello all, > > I finally bought a new machine. It arrived with a severe malware infection (Vista), and while I was tempted to blow it away w/o even so much as letting it boot, I decided to have a look. Is there anything I should try before the stampede of Penguins begins? > > In particular, is there any way to gag the animation/visual effects/whatever they call them? > > Bill Not much to see, the solitaire I heard remains good and the notepad remains crap. You'll have a big clock and wheather and several gadgets more but, as any new windows install, you won't be able to do anything useful without installing several other apps before. I recommend to nuke it and install your penguin OS and try compiz for a similar experience. After a week or two you'll have enough of effects and you'll disable them (I promise) and you'll end with a normal machine, but without virus/malware. :) Miguel CobÃ¡ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 28, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items??

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez

El mar, 28-07-2009 a las 18:19 -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K escribiÃ³: > Hello all, > > I finally bought a new machine. It arrived with a severe malware infection (Vista), and while I was tempted to blow it away w/o even so much as letting it boot, I decided to have a look. Is there anything I should try before the stampede of Penguins begins? > > In particular, is there any way to gag the animation/visual effects/whatever they call them? > > Bill Not much to see, the solitaire I heard remains good and the notepad remains crap. You'll have a big clock and wheather and several gadgets more but, as any new windows install, you won't be able to do anything useful without installing several other apps before. I recommend to nuke it and install your penguin OS and try compiz for a similar experience. After a week or two you'll have enough of effects and you'll disable them (I promise) and you'll end with a normal machine, but without virus/malware. :) Miguel CobÃ¡ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 28, 2009