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Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkImage current platformName [WAS] Re: Baseline test results on pharo core 10392

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:11 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>wrote: > 2009/7/28 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > > MacOSXPlatform isActivePlatform > > > > In all places? Obviously, the same with the other platforms. > > > > Is there a reason I don't see? > > I don't like this solution because it depends on the existence of the > MacOSXPlatform class which is an implementation detail. Why you say MacOSXPlatform is an implementation detail? Perhaps we can ask this messages to SmalltalkImage and then this delegates to the platform? However, I rather any of this solutions than having all the hardcoded string spear around in the image. > > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > popular by not having them." James Iry > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkImage current platformName [WAS] Re: Baseline test results on pharo core 10392

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I think that all such kind of queries (like isXXXPlatform) should be > not included and not used in a well-designed system. > If you want some capability - then you should ask directly for it, > irrespectively on what platform you are currently running. I am agree. I really believe in the phrase "tell don't ask". However, I have a couple of things to say: 1) It is not as easy as it seems. If you want to delegate to another object and be polymorphic regarding the platform you must reify a couple of classes (in your slash it is easy because you have the File hierarchy). I mean, you cannot put everything in the Platform class. And this must be done in every place. You must really understand that piece of code to change it. I can do this in my projects, but I don't know about to do it everywhere. 2) Let's go step by step. I would first remove all the "SmalltalkImage current platformName = 'Mac OS'" (and others platforms) from all places. Once we have this, we can see senders of isUnix for example, and try to see how to make this more OO instead of this if. (as you said). > > > As an example, see the FileDirectory>>slash > > It is very confusing for people to see isXXXPlatform in code, because > it tells almost nothing about what platform-specific feature you rely > on. > So, i'd prefer to see the code which asks some provider object about > support of given capability (it could be OSPlatform), > instead of placing isMacOS, isWindows , isUnix into code, which > causing a lot of frustration to people who would want to port your > code to other platforms, or simply check, if their platform provides > required feature(s). > > Don't forget, that each time someone sees isMacOs, or isWindows etc.. > he thinks: 'duh.. this thing wont work on my platform'. > Instead of thinking in a different way: 'duh.. this thing depends on > following OS feature, lets take a look if i can hack it to wire it up > with my OS' > > 2009/7/28 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Miguel CobÃ¡ <miguel.coba(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> I think that it should be done at least in pharo core and more > >> importantly, > > > > Yes, I wanted to say to do it in Pharo core at least. Then, it's a task > of > > each external package developer to change their code to use this methods. > > > >> > >> create a new page in the wiki with the programming recommended > >> tips/techniques > >> and there to include all the tips that appear on the list: > >> > >> - Use the OSPlatform isActivePlatform and children > >> - Not to use the Utilities deprecated classes > >> - The case against SmalltalkImage current that appear in a thread a > >> couple of days ago > >> - etc > >> > >> and featured in the pharo website to avoid introducing this bad idioms > >> again > >> > >> Miguel CobÃ¡ > >> > >> 2009/7/28 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> We have OSPlatform. For instance: > >> >> > >> >> MacOSXPlatform isActivePlatform > >> > > >> > Nice! I wasn't aware of them...so, what about changing > >> > > >> > SmalltalkImage current platformName = 'Mac OS' > >> > > >> > for > >> > > >> > MacOSXPlatform isActivePlatform > >> > > >> > In all places? Obviously, the same with the other platforms. > >> > > >> > Is there a reason I don't see? just time to do it ? > >> > > >> > thanks! > >> > > >> > Mariano > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> >> HTH, > >> >> Adrian > >> >> > >> >> On Jul 28, 2009, at 18:55 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Ok, I write the changeset, but I don't like it hehehehe. > >> >> > > >> >> > What about puting isMacintosh, isUnix and isWindows in > >> >> > SmalltalkImage ? > >> >> > I think those methods are useful and perhaps many people in > different > >> >> > packages are doing things like this: > >> >> > ^SmalltalkImage current platformName = 'Mac OS' > >> >> > > >> >> > This is not nice. Tomorrow we change the platformName and we have > to > >> >> > modify > >> >> > a lot of code. > >> >> > > >> >> > For example, I searched the string "SmalltalkImage current > >> >> > platformName = > >> >> > 'Mac OS'" and it is in a lot of places. I think we should get rid > of > >> >> > them. > >> >> > > >> >> > what do you think? > >> >> > > >> >> > best, > >> >> > > >> >> > Mariano > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Yes, if you tested it and think it is good, please change the > status > >> >> >> to verified. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Cheers, > >> >> >> Adrian > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Jul 28, 2009, at 17:12 , Miguel CobÃ¡ wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> should the ticket be marked as verified? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Miguel > >> >> >>> CobÃ¡<miguel.coba(a)gmail.com> > >> >> >>> wrote: > >> >> >>>> It works ok on my > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Debian Linux 5.0 (Lenny) i386. > >> >> >>>> Debian Linux 5.0 (Lenny) amd64. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Miguel CobÃ¡ > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> 2009/7/28 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Adrian Lienhard > >> >> >>>>> <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 14:51 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Damien Cassou < > >> >> >> damien.cassou(a)gmail.com > >> >> >>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> 2009/7/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > >> >> >>>>>>>>> HostSystemMenusTest class>>expectedFailures > >> >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> SmalltalkImage current platformName = 'Mac OS' ifFalse:[ > >> >> >>>>>>>>> ^#(#testXXX #testYYY)]. > >> >> >>>>>>>>> ]. > >> >> >>>>>>>>> ^#() > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> Expected failures are indications of bugs that are not yet > >> >> >>>>>>>> corrected. > >> >> >>>>>>>> Does not seem to apply here. > >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>> ahhh okok. So...shall we go for torsten solution ? > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> Yes. > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=996 > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> I also attached a possible changeset. > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> best, > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> Mariano > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> Adrian > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> -- > >> >> >>>>>>>> Damien Cassou > >> >> >>>>>>>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java > makes > >> >> >>>>>>>> them > >> >> >>>>>>>> popular by not having them." James Iry > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >> >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >> >> >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >> >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >> >> >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> >> >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- > >> >> >>>>>>> project > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >> >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >> >> >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >> >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >> >> >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> >> >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- > >> >> >>>>> project > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >> >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >> >> >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> >> >>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> >> >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > Pharo-project mailing list > >> >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> >> > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Pharo-project mailing list > >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: may be a bottleneck

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:42 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse<stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> I'm trying to fix the problem of actualClass and I realize that >> actualClass is invoked all the time by the browsers >> on redisplay. I wonder why the browser are refreshing when normally >> they should only do that on events. What browser are you talking about? -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

July 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkImage current platformName [WAS] Re: Baseline test results on pharo core 10392

by Damien Cassou

2009/7/28 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > MacOSXPlatform isActivePlatform > > In all places? Obviously, the same with the other platforms. > > Is there a reason I don't see? I don't like this solution because it depends on the existence of the MacOSXPlatform class which is an implementation detail. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

July 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items??

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Travis, I have a long way to go, but I have generally been able to work through problems with varying amounts of effort and help from search engines. Things have pretty much flipped 180 from the days when Windows just worked and Linux was a nightmare to install. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Travis Kay Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:15 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? Bill, Just wait until you are familiar with the nuances of penguin power too ;) Travis -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Schwab,Wilhelm K Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:22 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? You want tough? :) I have now poked around enough to see that they have worked _really_ hard to completely screw up the explorer. They've flipped the meaning of the open and explore commands; it's no big deal, but it's pointless. Where there were once scroll bars, one now has to hover with the mouse and somehow will the hidden pixels into view: maybe they were thinking of charging extra for that feature as a Ouija board simulator. I realize that I am expecting too much from a first service pack, but it seems sad to watch the system go into (minor) hysterics when faced with a flash drive in a USB port. The mouse cursor went nuts, and it seems to think it has several such drives connected (it does not) making it a fun exercise to figure out which of the devices to stop. Overall, it's worse than I expected, and THAT'S saying something. I might play around more tomorrow, but that noise you hear is a drive getting ready to be reformatted. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Boris Popov Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:02 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? Like I said, tough crowd :) -Boris -- +1.604.689.0322 DeepCove Labs Ltd. 4th floor 595 Howe Street Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Igor Stasenko Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:01 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? 2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com>: > By that time free upgrade coupon would have arrived for the retail > version, and new machines are entitled to it after June 26th, but I > rest my case :) > Your statement having a severe semantic error: the words 'free' and 'Microsoft' can't be used together in same context :) > -Boris > > -- > +1.604.689.0322 > DeepCove Labs Ltd. > 4th floor 595 Howe Street > Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 > http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Igor > Stasenko > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? > > 2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com>: >> Install Windows 7 RC and revert to Classic look. >> > which will refuse to boot after 1 Jan 2010. > Thanks, but No :) > >> -Boris >> >> -- >> +1.604.689.0322 >> DeepCove Labs Ltd. >> 4th floor 595 Howe Street >> Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 >> http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of >> Schwab,Wilhelm K >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:19 PM >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? >> >> Hello all, >> >> I finally bought a new machine. Â It arrived with a severe malware >> infection (Vista), and while I was tempted to blow it away w/o even >> so much as letting it boot, I decided to have a look. Â Is there >> anything I should try before the stampede of Penguins begins? >> >> In particular, is there any way to gag the animation/visual >> effects/whatever they call them? >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items??

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2009/7/29 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> > Mariano, > > Actually, I can do a little better than that - I can use a remote desktop > connection to a Windows box for any stuff that needs to run on it. > That's a good solution if you can do that. > The new machine is absolutely going to run Linux; I bought it with that > in mind. However, since it was pre-infected, it seemed wise to smell the > roses - though the fertilizer appears to be the overpowering sensory > stimulus. > I have the same problem as you. When I bought my laptop, it came with Vista (later I noticed in Dell you can ask for Ubuntu directly instead of Vista). I didn't remove it because I play Pro Evolution Soccer with it ahahahaha but I installed Ubuntu and inside it a VirtualBox with a clean tunned XP. > > Bill > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto: > pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] *On Behalf Of *Mariano > Martinez Peck > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:28 PM > > *To:* Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? > > Bill: be happy, install Linux and Wine + VirtualBox for the windows stuff > you don't have anoother option. > > best, > > Mariano > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>wrote: > >> You want tough? :) I have now poked around enough to see that they have >> worked _really_ hard to completely screw up the explorer. They've flipped >> the meaning of the open and explore commands; it's no big deal, but it's >> pointless. Where there were once scroll bars, one now has to hover with the >> mouse and somehow will the hidden pixels into view: maybe they were thinking >> of charging extra for that feature as a Ouija board simulator. I realize >> that I am expecting too much from a first service pack, but it seems sad to >> watch the system go into (minor) hysterics when faced with a flash drive in >> a USB port. The mouse cursor went nuts, and it seems to think it has >> several such drives connected (it does not) making it a fun exercise to >> figure out which of the devices to stop. >> >> Overall, it's worse than I expected, and THAT'S saying something. I might >> play around more tomorrow, but that noise you hear is a drive getting ready >> to be reformatted. >> >> Bill >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto: >> pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Boris Popov >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:02 PM >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? >> >> Like I said, tough crowd :) >> >> -Boris >> >> -- >> +1.604.689.0322 >> DeepCove Labs Ltd. >> 4th floor 595 Howe Street >> Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 >> http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto: >> pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Igor Stasenko >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:01 PM >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? >> >> 2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com>: >> > By that time free upgrade coupon would have arrived for the retail >> > version, and new machines are entitled to it after June 26th, but I >> > rest my case :) >> > >> Your statement having a severe semantic error: the words 'free' and >> 'Microsoft' can't be used together in same context :) >> >> > -Boris >> > >> > -- >> > +1.604.689.0322 >> > DeepCove Labs Ltd. >> > 4th floor 595 Howe Street >> > Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 >> > http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Igor >> > Stasenko >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52 PM >> > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? >> > >> > 2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com>: >> >> Install Windows 7 RC and revert to Classic look. >> >> >> > which will refuse to boot after 1 Jan 2010. >> > Thanks, but No :) >> > >> >> -Boris >> >> >> >> -- >> >> +1.604.689.0322 >> >> DeepCove Labs Ltd. >> >> 4th floor 595 Howe Street >> >> Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 >> >> http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of >> >> Schwab,Wilhelm K >> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:19 PM >> >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> Subject: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? >> >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> >> >> I finally bought a new machine. It arrived with a severe malware >> >> infection (Vista), and while I was tempted to blow it away w/o even >> >> so much as letting it boot, I decided to have a look. Is there >> >> anything I should try before the stampede of Penguins begins? >> >> >> >> In particular, is there any way to gag the animation/visual >> >> effects/whatever they call them? >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Best regards, >> > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items??

by Travis Kay

Bill, Just wait until you are familiar with the nuances of penguin power too ;) Travis -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Schwab,Wilhelm K Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:22 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? You want tough? :) I have now poked around enough to see that they have worked _really_ hard to completely screw up the explorer. They've flipped the meaning of the open and explore commands; it's no big deal, but it's pointless. Where there were once scroll bars, one now has to hover with the mouse and somehow will the hidden pixels into view: maybe they were thinking of charging extra for that feature as a Ouija board simulator. I realize that I am expecting too much from a first service pack, but it seems sad to watch the system go into (minor) hysterics when faced with a flash drive in a USB port. The mouse cursor went nuts, and it seems to think it has several such drives connected (it does not) making it a fun exercise to figure out which of the devices to stop. Overall, it's worse than I expected, and THAT'S saying something. I might play around more tomorrow, but that noise you hear is a drive getting ready to be reformatted. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Boris Popov Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:02 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? Like I said, tough crowd :) -Boris -- +1.604.689.0322 DeepCove Labs Ltd. 4th floor 595 Howe Street Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Igor Stasenko Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:01 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? 2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com>: > By that time free upgrade coupon would have arrived for the retail > version, and new machines are entitled to it after June 26th, but I > rest my case :) > Your statement having a severe semantic error: the words 'free' and 'Microsoft' can't be used together in same context :) > -Boris > > -- > +1.604.689.0322 > DeepCove Labs Ltd. > 4th floor 595 Howe Street > Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 > http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Igor > Stasenko > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? > > 2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com>: >> Install Windows 7 RC and revert to Classic look. >> > which will refuse to boot after 1 Jan 2010. > Thanks, but No :) > >> -Boris >> >> -- >> +1.604.689.0322 >> DeepCove Labs Ltd. >> 4th floor 595 Howe Street >> Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 >> http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of >> Schwab,Wilhelm K >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:19 PM >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? >> >> Hello all, >> >> I finally bought a new machine. Â It arrived with a severe malware >> infection (Vista), and while I was tempted to blow it away w/o even >> so much as letting it boot, I decided to have a look. Â Is there >> anything I should try before the stampede of Penguins begins? >> >> In particular, is there any way to gag the animation/visual >> effects/whatever they call them? >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items??

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Mariano, Actually, I can do a little better than that - I can use a remote desktop connection to a Windows box for any stuff that needs to run on it. The new machine is absolutely going to run Linux; I bought it with that in mind. However, since it was pre-infected, it seemed wise to smell the roses - though the fertilizer appears to be the overpowering sensory stimulus. Bill ________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:28 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? Bill: be happy, install Linux and Wine + VirtualBox for the windows stuff you don't have anoother option. best, Mariano On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu<mailto:bschwab@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: You want tough? :) I have now poked around enough to see that they have worked _really_ hard to completely screw up the explorer. They've flipped the meaning of the open and explore commands; it's no big deal, but it's pointless. Where there were once scroll bars, one now has to hover with the mouse and somehow will the hidden pixels into view: maybe they were thinking of charging extra for that feature as a Ouija board simulator. I realize that I am expecting too much from a first service pack, but it seems sad to watch the system go into (minor) hysterics when faced with a flash drive in a USB port. The mouse cursor went nuts, and it seems to think it has several such drives connected (it does not) making it a fun exercise to figure out which of the devices to stop. Overall, it's worse than I expected, and THAT'S saying something. I might play around more tomorrow, but that noise you hear is a drive getting ready to be reformatted. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr>] On Behalf Of Boris Popov Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:02 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? Like I said, tough crowd :) -Boris -- +1.604.689.0322 DeepCove Labs Ltd. 4th floor 595 Howe Street Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr>] On Behalf Of Igor Stasenko Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:01 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? 2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com<mailto:boris@deepcovelabs.com>>: > By that time free upgrade coupon would have arrived for the retail > version, and new machines are entitled to it after June 26th, but I > rest my case :) > Your statement having a severe semantic error: the words 'free' and 'Microsoft' can't be used together in same context :) > -Boris > > -- > +1.604.689.0322 > DeepCove Labs Ltd. > 4th floor 595 Howe Street > Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 > http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr>] On Behalf Of Igor > Stasenko > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? > > 2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com<mailto:boris@deepcovelabs.com>>: >> Install Windows 7 RC and revert to Classic look. >> > which will refuse to boot after 1 Jan 2010. > Thanks, but No :) > >> -Boris >> >> -- >> +1.604.689.0322 >> DeepCove Labs Ltd. >> 4th floor 595 Howe Street >> Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 >> http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr>] On Behalf Of >> Schwab,Wilhelm K >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:19 PM >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> Subject: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? >> >> Hello all, >> >> I finally bought a new machine. It arrived with a severe malware >> infection (Vista), and while I was tempted to blow it away w/o even >> so much as letting it boot, I decided to have a look. Is there >> anything I should try before the stampede of Penguins begins? >> >> In particular, is there any way to gag the animation/visual >> effects/whatever they call them? >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items??

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Bill: be happy, install Linux and Wine + VirtualBox for the windows stuff you don't have anoother option. best, Mariano On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>wrote: > You want tough? :) I have now poked around enough to see that they have > worked _really_ hard to completely screw up the explorer. They've flipped > the meaning of the open and explore commands; it's no big deal, but it's > pointless. Where there were once scroll bars, one now has to hover with the > mouse and somehow will the hidden pixels into view: maybe they were thinking > of charging extra for that feature as a Ouija board simulator. I realize > that I am expecting too much from a first service pack, but it seems sad to > watch the system go into (minor) hysterics when faced with a flash drive in > a USB port. The mouse cursor went nuts, and it seems to think it has > several such drives connected (it does not) making it a fun exercise to > figure out which of the devices to stop. > > Overall, it's worse than I expected, and THAT'S saying something. I might > play around more tomorrow, but that noise you hear is a drive getting ready > to be reformatted. > > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto: > pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Boris Popov > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:02 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? > > Like I said, tough crowd :) > > -Boris > > -- > +1.604.689.0322 > DeepCove Labs Ltd. > 4th floor 595 Howe Street > Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 > http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto: > pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Igor Stasenko > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:01 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? > > 2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com>: > > By that time free upgrade coupon would have arrived for the retail > > version, and new machines are entitled to it after June 26th, but I > > rest my case :) > > > Your statement having a severe semantic error: the words 'free' and > 'Microsoft' can't be used together in same context :) > > > -Boris > > > > -- > > +1.604.689.0322 > > DeepCove Labs Ltd. > > 4th floor 595 Howe Street > > Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 > > http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Igor > > Stasenko > > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52 PM > > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? > > > > 2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com>: > >> Install Windows 7 RC and revert to Classic look. > >> > > which will refuse to boot after 1 Jan 2010. > > Thanks, but No :) > > > >> -Boris > >> > >> -- > >> +1.604.689.0322 > >> DeepCove Labs Ltd. > >> 4th floor 595 Howe Street > >> Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 > >> http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of > >> Schwab,Wilhelm K > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:19 PM > >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> Subject: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? > >> > >> Hello all, > >> > >> I finally bought a new machine. It arrived with a severe malware > >> infection (Vista), and while I was tempted to blow it away w/o even > >> so much as letting it boot, I decided to have a look. Is there > >> anything I should try before the stampede of Penguins begins? > >> > >> In particular, is there any way to gag the animation/visual > >> effects/whatever they call them? > >> > >> Bill > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items??

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

You want tough? :) I have now poked around enough to see that they have worked _really_ hard to completely screw up the explorer. They've flipped the meaning of the open and explore commands; it's no big deal, but it's pointless. Where there were once scroll bars, one now has to hover with the mouse and somehow will the hidden pixels into view: maybe they were thinking of charging extra for that feature as a Ouija board simulator. I realize that I am expecting too much from a first service pack, but it seems sad to watch the system go into (minor) hysterics when faced with a flash drive in a USB port. The mouse cursor went nuts, and it seems to think it has several such drives connected (it does not) making it a fun exercise to figure out which of the devices to stop. Overall, it's worse than I expected, and THAT'S saying something. I might play around more tomorrow, but that noise you hear is a drive getting ready to be reformatted. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Boris Popov Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:02 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? Like I said, tough crowd :) -Boris -- +1.604.689.0322 DeepCove Labs Ltd. 4th floor 595 Howe Street Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Igor Stasenko Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:01 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? 2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com>: > By that time free upgrade coupon would have arrived for the retail > version, and new machines are entitled to it after June 26th, but I > rest my case :) > Your statement having a severe semantic error: the words 'free' and 'Microsoft' can't be used together in same context :) > -Boris > > -- > +1.604.689.0322 > DeepCove Labs Ltd. > 4th floor 595 Howe Street > Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 > http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Igor > Stasenko > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? > > 2009/7/29 Boris Popov <boris(a)deepcovelabs.com>: >> Install Windows 7 RC and revert to Classic look. >> > which will refuse to boot after 1 Jan 2010. > Thanks, but No :) > >> -Boris >> >> -- >> +1.604.689.0322 >> DeepCove Labs Ltd. >> 4th floor 595 Howe Street >> Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 >> http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of >> Schwab,Wilhelm K >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:19 PM >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: [Pharo-project] [OT] Vista must-see items?? >> >> Hello all, >> >> I finally bought a new machine. Â It arrived with a severe malware >> infection (Vista), and while I was tempted to blow it away w/o even >> so much as letting it boot, I decided to have a look. Â Is there >> anything I should try before the stampede of Penguins begins? >> >> In particular, is there any way to gag the animation/visual >> effects/whatever they call them? >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 29, 2009