June 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Problems loading Squeak Map

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jun 16, 2009, at 6:59 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote: > > ----- "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > | we will soon arrive in beta :) > | and we will ask for people to shake it and identify show stopper > bugs > | > | Stef > > It's been quite impressive to see Pharo come together. You guys > haven't pulled any punches when it comes to aggressive goals and the > challenges are being met head on! you know the key point will be when we will have to change for real (decent mop and other stuff) and that we will have users complaining :) Been backwards compatible can kill innovation (imagine seaside with common wisdom). The same should apply to languages and IDEs Stef

June 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Problems loading Squeak Map

by Frank Church

If I want to understand the FFI Browser 3.9.1 by hand, how would I go about it? I just used the ScriptLoader instFFI and the FFI was installed. How can I check that the right item was installed? Is there a way to check that the version installed is the same as the one listed in the Universe Browser, ie that it is the same package as FFI Browser 3.9.1 The Resources/package-cache directory now holds FFI-Kernel-ar.9.mcz so I guess it must be the right one. 2009/6/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > What Pharo version are you using? Perhaps something related to this: > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=510 > > What about installing latest FFI from MC instead of Universe? To do this, > just evaluate ScriptLoader loadFFI > > Universe 3.9.1 uses FFI-Kernel-ar.8.mcz and the latest is > FFI-Kernel-ar.9.mcz > > Anyway I know nothing about GemTools so perhaps I am saying nonsense > things. > > Best, > > Mariano > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Frank Church <vfclists(a)googlemail.com>wrote: > >> When I get round to installing the GemTools, the first item it starts >> downloading is FFI browser 3.9.1 and it halts with the Error - >> MessageNotUnderstood MimeType->IndexOf, >> >> Prior to that is a call to HttpUrl normalizeContents and a few others. >> >> >> 2009/6/16 Frank Church <vfclists(a)googlemail.com>: >> > Worked first time!! >> > >> > Pretty cool!! >> > >> > 2009/6/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: >> >> You can do this: >> >> >> >> |instClass| >> >> instClass := Smalltalk at: #Installer ifAbsent: [ScriptLoader >> >> loadLatestPackage: 'Installer-Core' fromSqueaksource: 'Installer'. >> Smalltalk >> >> at: #Installer]. >> >> instClass ss >> >> project: 'XMLSupport'; >> >> install: 'XML-Parser'. >> >> >> >> .... >> >> >> >> .... >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> Mariano >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Frank Church <vfclists(a)googlemail.com >> > >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> When I type the command and 'do-it' I get the error : 'Unknown >> >>> variable Install, please correct or cancel' >> >>> >> >>> Is it already built into Pharo or does it require an additional >> >>> package to be installed? >> >>> >> >>> 2009/6/16 Brian Brown <brian(a)ablelinktech.com>: >> >>> > In the workspace. >> >>> > >> >>> > - Brian >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > On Jun 16, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Frank Church wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> >> Is the Installer command something to run in the Workspace or in >> some >> >>> >> other window? >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>> > Pharo-project mailing list >> >>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Pharo-project mailing list >> >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello connecting to ftp repo on non-standard port

by Cameron Sanders

Excellent, I am glad that did it for you. [Although... that other point I made about #port was indeed a defect ... in some version -- perhaps somebody fixed that and I missed it.] And thanks the surgery did go well. I had a torn meniscus -- left knee. A big tear, but the surgeon I went to handles the US ski team. It felt "pinched" last night post-surgery, but I didn't need any pain meds; and today if feels better than it did for most of the last 3 months! We live in a very lucky era. That latter point applies to computing as well. I first started working with-computers full-time in 1981. But even today, I don't take this all for granted. These "toys" and systems we have built over the years are totally impressive. Do not forget to stop and appreciate it once in a while... it wasn't always like this! Ciao, Cam On Jun 15, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Pat Maddox wrote: > Okay per http://www.mail-archive.com/pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr/msg08133.ht… > all I had to do was change NetNameResolver class >> useOldNetwork to > return true. Thanks for the pointer. I hope your surgery and > recovery go well...

June 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Problems loading Squeak Map

by Dale Henrichs

----- "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: | we will soon arrive in beta :) | and we will ask for people to shake it and identify show stopper bugs | | Stef It's been quite impressive to see Pharo come together. You guys haven't pulled any punches when it comes to aggressive goals and the challenges are being met head on! Dale

June 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Problems loading Squeak Map

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jun 16, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote: > Frank, > > For GemTools, I recommend that you use the GemTools 2.3.1 Preview > from the GLASS downloads page[1]. It's an older Pharo image, but it > is known to work. > > The current Pharo versions are moving so fast that I have not tried > to keep up with them. When the pace of change slows down a bit, we > will produce a new one-click as well as instructions for rolling > your own GemTools. we will soon arrive in beta :) and we will ask for people to shake it and identify show stopper bugs Stef > > Dale > > [1] http://seaside.gemstone.com/downloads.html > > ----- "Frank Church" <vfclists(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > | When I get round to installing the GemTools, the first item it > starts > | downloading is FFI browser 3.9.1 and it halts with the Error - > | MessageNotUnderstood MimeType->IndexOf, > | > | Prior to that is a call to HttpUrl normalizeContents and a few > | others. > | > | > | 2009/6/16 Frank Church <vfclists(a)googlemail.com>: > | > Worked first time!! > | > > | > Pretty cool!! > | > > | > 2009/6/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > | >> You can do this: > | >> > | >> |instClass| > | >> instClass := Smalltalk at: #Installer ifAbsent: [ScriptLoader > | >> loadLatestPackage: 'Installer-Core' fromSqueaksource: > 'Installer'. > | Smalltalk > | >> at: #Installer]. > | >> instClass ss > | >> project: 'XMLSupport'; > | >> install: 'XML-Parser'. > | >> > | >> .... > | >> > | >> .... > | >> > | >> > | >> Cheers, > | >> > | >> Mariano > | >> > | >> > | >> > | >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Frank Church > | <vfclists(a)googlemail.com> > | >> wrote: > | >>> > | >>> When I type the command and 'do-it' I get the error : 'Unknown > | >>> variable Install, please correct or cancel' > | >>> > | >>> Is it already built into Pharo or does it require an additional > | >>> package to be installed? > | >>> > | >>> 2009/6/16 Brian Brown <brian(a)ablelinktech.com>: > | >>> > In the workspace. > | >>> > > | >>> > - Brian > | >>> > > | >>> > > | >>> > On Jun 16, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Frank Church wrote: > | >>> > > | >>> >> Is the Installer command something to run in the Workspace or > | in some > | >>> >> other window? > | >>> > > | >>> > > | >>> > _______________________________________________ > | >>> > Pharo-project mailing list > | >>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > | >>> > > | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > | >>> > > | >>> > | >>> _______________________________________________ > | >>> Pharo-project mailing list > | >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > | >>> > | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > | >> > | >> > | >> _______________________________________________ > | >> Pharo-project mailing list > | >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > | >> > | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > | >> > | > > | > | _______________________________________________ > | Pharo-project mailing list > | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Problems loading Squeak Map

by Dale Henrichs

Frank, For GemTools, I recommend that you use the GemTools 2.3.1 Preview from the GLASS downloads page[1]. It's an older Pharo image, but it is known to work. The current Pharo versions are moving so fast that I have not tried to keep up with them. When the pace of change slows down a bit, we will produce a new one-click as well as instructions for rolling your own GemTools. Dale [1] http://seaside.gemstone.com/downloads.html ----- "Frank Church" <vfclists(a)googlemail.com> wrote: | When I get round to installing the GemTools, the first item it starts | downloading is FFI browser 3.9.1 and it halts with the Error - | MessageNotUnderstood MimeType->IndexOf, | | Prior to that is a call to HttpUrl normalizeContents and a few | others. | | | 2009/6/16 Frank Church <vfclists(a)googlemail.com>: | > Worked first time!! | > | > Pretty cool!! | > | > 2009/6/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: | >> You can do this: | >> | >> |instClass| | >> instClass := Smalltalk at: #Installer ifAbsent: [ScriptLoader | >> loadLatestPackage: 'Installer-Core' fromSqueaksource: 'Installer'. | Smalltalk | >> at: #Installer]. | >> instClass ss | >> Â Â Â Â project: 'XMLSupport'; | >> Â Â Â Â install: 'XML-Parser'. | >> | >> .... | >> | >> .... | >> | >> | >> Cheers, | >> | >> Mariano | >> | >> | >> | >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Frank Church | <vfclists(a)googlemail.com> | >> wrote: | >>> | >>> When I type the command and 'do-it' I get the error : 'Unknown | >>> variable Install, please correct or cancel' | >>> | >>> Is it already built into Pharo or does it require an additional | >>> package to be installed? | >>> | >>> 2009/6/16 Brian Brown <brian(a)ablelinktech.com>: | >>> > In the workspace. | >>> > | >>> > - Brian | >>> > | >>> > | >>> > On Jun 16, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Frank Church wrote: | >>> > | >>> >> Is the Installer command something to run in the Workspace or | in some | >>> >> other window? | >>> > | >>> > | >>> > _______________________________________________ | >>> > Pharo-project mailing list | >>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | >>> > | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | >>> > | >>> | >>> _______________________________________________ | >>> Pharo-project mailing list | >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | >>> | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | >> | >> | >> _______________________________________________ | >> Pharo-project mailing list | >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | >> | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | >> | > | | _______________________________________________ | Pharo-project mailing list | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Problems loading Squeak Map

by Mariano Martinez Peck

What Pharo version are you using? Perhaps something related to this: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=510 What about installing latest FFI from MC instead of Universe? To do this, just evaluate ScriptLoader loadFFI Universe 3.9.1 uses FFI-Kernel-ar.8.mcz and the latest is FFI-Kernel-ar.9.mcz Anyway I know nothing about GemTools so perhaps I am saying nonsense things. Best, Mariano On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Frank Church <vfclists(a)googlemail.com>wrote: > When I get round to installing the GemTools, the first item it starts > downloading is FFI browser 3.9.1 and it halts with the Error - > MessageNotUnderstood MimeType->IndexOf, > > Prior to that is a call to HttpUrl normalizeContents and a few others. > > > 2009/6/16 Frank Church <vfclists(a)googlemail.com>: > > Worked first time!! > > > > Pretty cool!! > > > > 2009/6/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > >> You can do this: > >> > >> |instClass| > >> instClass := Smalltalk at: #Installer ifAbsent: [ScriptLoader > >> loadLatestPackage: 'Installer-Core' fromSqueaksource: 'Installer'. > Smalltalk > >> at: #Installer]. > >> instClass ss > >> project: 'XMLSupport'; > >> install: 'XML-Parser'. > >> > >> .... > >> > >> .... > >> > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Mariano > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Frank Church <vfclists(a)googlemail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> When I type the command and 'do-it' I get the error : 'Unknown > >>> variable Install, please correct or cancel' > >>> > >>> Is it already built into Pharo or does it require an additional > >>> package to be installed? > >>> > >>> 2009/6/16 Brian Brown <brian(a)ablelinktech.com>: > >>> > In the workspace. > >>> > > >>> > - Brian > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Jun 16, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Frank Church wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> Is the Installer command something to run in the Workspace or in > some > >>> >> other window? > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Pharo-project mailing list > >>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Problems loading Squeak Map

by Frank Church

When I get round to installing the GemTools, the first item it starts downloading is FFI browser 3.9.1 and it halts with the Error - MessageNotUnderstood MimeType->IndexOf, Prior to that is a call to HttpUrl normalizeContents and a few others. 2009/6/16 Frank Church <vfclists(a)googlemail.com>: > Worked first time!! > > Pretty cool!! > > 2009/6/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: >> You can do this: >> >> |instClass| >> instClass := Smalltalk at: #Installer ifAbsent: [ScriptLoader >> loadLatestPackage: 'Installer-Core' fromSqueaksource: 'Installer'. Smalltalk >> at: #Installer]. >> instClass ss >> Â Â Â Â project: 'XMLSupport'; >> Â Â Â Â install: 'XML-Parser'. >> >> .... >> >> .... >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Mariano >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Frank Church <vfclists(a)googlemail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> When I type the command and 'do-it' I get the error : 'Unknown >>> variable Install, please correct or cancel' >>> >>> Is it already built into Pharo or does it require an additional >>> package to be installed? >>> >>> 2009/6/16 Brian Brown <brian(a)ablelinktech.com>: >>> > In the workspace. >>> > >>> > - Brian >>> > >>> > >>> > On Jun 16, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Frank Church wrote: >>> > >>> >> Is the Installer command something to run in the Workspace or in some >>> >> other window? >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Pharo-project mailing list >>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >

June 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Problems loading Squeak Map

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

frank in smalltalk you can type code and execute anywhere there is a do it menu :) On Jun 16, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Frank Church wrote: > Is the Installer command something to run in the Workspace or in some > other window? > > 2009/6/16 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>: >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Frank >> Church<vfclists(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >>> Can this method also work in Pharo? >> >> It should work perfectly. >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them >> popular by not having them." James Iry >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Problems loading Squeak Map

by Frank Church

Worked first time!! Pretty cool!! 2009/6/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > You can do this: > > |instClass| > instClass := Smalltalk at: #Installer ifAbsent: [ScriptLoader > loadLatestPackage: 'Installer-Core' fromSqueaksource: 'Installer'. Smalltalk > at: #Installer]. > instClass ss > Â Â Â Â project: 'XMLSupport'; > Â Â Â Â install: 'XML-Parser'. > > .... > > .... > > > Cheers, > > Mariano > > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Frank Church <vfclists(a)googlemail.com> > wrote: >> >> When I type the command and 'do-it' I get the error : 'Unknown >> variable Install, please correct or cancel' >> >> Is it already built into Pharo or does it require an additional >> package to be installed? >> >> 2009/6/16 Brian Brown <brian(a)ablelinktech.com>: >> > In the workspace. >> > >> > - Brian >> > >> > >> > On Jun 16, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Frank Church wrote: >> > >> >> Is the Installer command something to run in the Workspace or in some >> >> other window? >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 16, 2009