May 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Helping getting pharo license-clean

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> Perhaps^^; :) > Does Pharo have ScaledDecimal and it is used? it ha but I do not know if this is used. > If so, that would be > the biggest piece that would be removed. There wouldn't be any > serious bugs that would cause major trouble otherwise. > >>> >>> I can help you after school gets out in a week. I need to >> do a quick count of how many lines of code need to be fixed in >> squeak for submission to SFLC. I can do the same for Pharo. I >> don't know how strenuous you want to be in your license >> conversion. > > What is the reason for Pharo to go with SFLC? I do not know. >> You should chat with Randal Schwartz about what you need to >> decide before you can start relicensing, and what you need to >> document in case your relicense needs to be reviewed in the >> future. Yoshiki and Juan did not do this and thus we have no >> evidence yet that Yoshiki's relicense is strong enough. > > There will be no such evidence. There will be no evidence for a > statement like "there is no white crow". Indeed I think that we should stop somewhere.

May 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Excluding classes from Test Coverage

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 6:27 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > from the wiki on google not the pharo web site which is for the > "marketing" > but isn't this marketing ? Most "marketing" websites have a FAQ section. > > Stef > On May 15, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz > > <oscar(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote: > > > > Just checked in as > http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoInbox/SUnitGUI-onierstrasz.38.mcz > > > > Now you can declare classes to exclude from coverage analysis by > > defining #classNamesNotUnderTest on the class side of your test to > > return an array of names of those classes. > > > > http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/faq/pharofaq/howToCheckTestCoverage > > > > > > Wow! I didn't know http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/faq/pharofaq > > > > It is really useful!!! What about putting a link to it in > http://www.pharo-project.org/documentation/faq > > > > Best, > > > > Mariano > > > > > > > > - on > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] vw inspired gui tool

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi steve what is the difference with the explorer. If you want to have flash just send us a new menu for explorer? Stef On May 15, 2009, at 8:46 PM, Steve Wirts wrote: > Folks, > > Attached is a very simple gui tool inspired from a tool that used to > exist in VW smalltalk years ago. > I suspect it could be rewritten as a single function. Please > incorporate into Pharo if you think > it's useful. > > Steve > <ViewExplorer.st>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Excluding classes from Test Coverage

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

from the wiki on google not the pharo web site which is for the "marketing" Stef On May 15, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz > <oscar(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote: > > Just checked in as http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoInbox/SUnitGUI-onierstrasz.38.mcz > > Now you can declare classes to exclude from coverage analysis by > defining #classNamesNotUnderTest on the class side of your test to > return an array of names of those classes. > > http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/faq/pharofaq/howToCheckTestCoverage > > > Wow! I didn't know http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/faq/pharofaq > > It is really useful!!! What about putting a link to it in http://www.pharo-project.org/documentation/faq > > Best, > > Mariano > > > > - on > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10305 and 10306

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Oscar the update is a stream of cs the update list is then a list such as 10001... 10002.... 10010 each of these can be a simple cs (as in Squeak3.8) in 3.9 or pharo here is a typical CS "Postscript: Leave the line above, and replace the rest of this comment by a useful one. Executable statements should follow this comment, and should be separated by periods, with no exclamation points (!!). Be sure to put any further comments in double-quotes, like this one." |repository| repository := MCHttpRepository location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Pharo/' user: '' password: ''. (repository loadVersionFromFileNamed:'ScriptLoader-stephane_ducasse. 862.mcz') load. ScriptLoader new update10306. ! what you see is the that 10306 will invoke the method of scriptLoader that launches the loading of the corresponding MC package. Now you can see the changes by browsing the methods update10..... in the class ScriptLoader Stef

May 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Missing info in the change log

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> > Hi, > > we realized (after pharo crash) that there are some code changes > > that are not save to the changes file. Most of the are related to > > dynamically defining the "change". > > Yes some are missing and the class definition in cs would be really > welcomed because doit for classdef is annoying. > > I agree, but it has one downsize. Juan Manuel did that on Cuis, but > then you can not port code from it to Pharo/Squeak. > Of course the answer could be "who cares", but just raising an > issue. Maybe having an option to turn on/off would be better until > all use the same format.. I know I checked Cuis. I think that this is should be done so that we can load code from pharo in other smalltalk. In general we should clean or rewrite the fileout code. > jeje, I'll see if I can help. I would suggest to think in terms of a complete new project to fileout code because when I see that code I often waht to run away.

May 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo splash

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On May 15, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > Thank you, I think that will be useful for the Pharo release. > > 2009/5/15 Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de>: >> Sorry for bloating your mailbox but in case >> someone is in the need for a splash screen >> for presenting Pharo you will find one attached. >> >> Otherwise delete this mail. This is also in >> preparation of a Win32 setup bundle. >> >> On Win32 you can enable the splash using the >> Squeak/Pharo.ini file (see [1]) >> >> Thx >> T. >> >> [1] http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/settings.html >> >> -- >> Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + >> Telefonanschluss fÃ¼r nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > popular by not having them." James Iry > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Inspect it wrong shortcut

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>wrote: > 2009/5/14 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > > Can someone confirm this ? > > This is fixed in recent versions. > Are you sure? It still doesn't work for me. Note that inspect it is the only one that doesn't work. It seems that inspect is inverse to all the other. When the rest of the shortcuts work with ctrl, inspect it work with alt and viceversa. Greetings, Mariano > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > popular by not having them." James Iry > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Helping getting pharo license-clean

by Yoshiki Ohshima

> I also applied all of yoshiki's etoys changes to 3.10.2. The > algorithm that Yoshiki seemed to follow when cleaning etoys is: > - If the method can be easily deleted, delete it > - Otherwise, use the historical image [1] to revert to the > latest version before the problematic author > - Fix any bugs this causes > > I think we can use the same procedure. Perhaps Yoshiki will > comment. Perhaps^^; Does Pharo have ScaledDecimal and it is used? If so, that would be the biggest piece that would be removed. There wouldn't be any serious bugs that would cause major trouble otherwise. > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:10:12AM +0200, stephane ducasse wrote: > > I need your guidance for the MIT conversion effort of Pharo > > Do you have some cycles to help me and telling me how to proceed? > > I'm on holidays (so working remotely so I may allocate some time on > > that). > > I can help you after school gets out in a week. I need to > do a quick count of how many lines of code need to be fixed in > squeak for submission to SFLC. I can do the same for Pharo. I > don't know how strenuous you want to be in your license > conversion. What is the reason for Pharo to go with SFLC? > You should chat with Randal Schwartz about what you need to > decide before you can start relicensing, and what you need to > document in case your relicense needs to be reviewed in the > future. Yoshiki and Juan did not do this and thus we have no > evidence yet that Yoshiki's relicense is strong enough. There will be no such evidence. There will be no evidence for a statement like "there is no white crow". -- Yoshiki

May 15, 2009

[Pharo-project] vw inspired gui tool

by Steve Wirts

Folks, Attached is a very simple gui tool inspired from a tool that used to exist in VW smalltalk years ago. I suspect it could be rewritten as a single function. Please incorporate into Pharo if you think it's useful. Steve

May 15, 2009