May 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] question for nicolas

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

hi nicolas is the slice in the pharo inbox still to be integrated? Mantis6797- issue 803? issue with scale decimal? Stef

May 21, 2009

[Pharo-project] can you give feedabck to alain on preference cleaning

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=810 Especially for the annotation panes in the old browser. Stef

May 21, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] New Pharo based on core 10309 with antialiased fonts

by Hilaire Fernandes

Just take the point of view of the user, then the answer will be obvious ;-) Hilaire 2009/5/21 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > This is ok for me the swapMouseButtons > so what the other think? > > Stef > > On May 20, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Damien Pollet wrote: > >> I use nearly the same script, except with the sans fonts, and a >> couple settings: >> >> Preferences >> Â Â Â enable: #halosEnabled; >> Â Â Â enable: #swapMouseButtons; >> Â Â Â disable: #gradientMenu. >> >> Most important to me is swapMouseButtons, because it puts menus back >> on the correct button. Apparently this setting is needed on macs and >> linux, so by the magic of (possibly biased) numbers, the exception is >> windows. Can we have #swapMouseButtons enabled by default ? >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:45, Damien Cassou >> <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> That looks great, though I would prefer a sans-serif font (DejaVu >>>> Sans) instead of a serif font (DejaVu Serif) in the UI. >>>> Serif fonts add too much noise on the screen and are typically >>>> used in >>>> print only, not in user interfaces. >>> >>> If people agree with this, I can change that. The script I currently >>> use is the following one. If you have ideas on how to improve it, >>> please tell me. >>> >>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 10. >>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize: 9. >>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. >>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. >>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. >>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. >>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 11. >>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: font. >>> >>> -- >>> Damien Cassou >>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>> >>> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them >>> popular by not having them." James Iry >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Damien Pollet >> type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

May 21, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Lsehub-staff] Top 10 programming fonts

by Hilaire Fernandes

Dejavu mono ranked #3 ! Dejavu mono is said to be UTF-8, so it gives the freedoom to write string and comment in native language. Font ranked #1 seems to be 8 bits only, not UTF-8 Hilaire 2009/5/21 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Laval Jannik <jannik.laval(a)inria.fr> >> Date: May 19, 2009 2:53:48 PM CEDT >> To: notre liste <lsehub-staff(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> Subject: [Lsehub-staff] Top 10 programming fonts >> Reply-To: notre liste <lsehub-staff(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> >> http://hivelogic.com/articles/view/top-10-programming-fonts >> >> --- >> Jannik Laval >> PhD Student - Rmod Team - INRIA >> Certified Project Management Associate (IPMA) >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> http://rmod.lille.inria.fr >> --- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Lsehub-staff mailing list >> Lsehub-staff(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lsehub-staff >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

May 21, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] New Pharo based on core 10309 with antialiased fonts

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

This is ok for me the swapMouseButtons so what the other think? Stef On May 20, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Damien Pollet wrote: > I use nearly the same script, except with the sans fonts, and a > couple settings: > > Preferences > enable: #halosEnabled; > enable: #swapMouseButtons; > disable: #gradientMenu. > > Most important to me is swapMouseButtons, because it puts menus back > on the correct button. Apparently this setting is needed on macs and > linux, so by the magic of (possibly biased) numbers, the exception is > windows. Can we have #swapMouseButtons enabled by default ? > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:45, Damien Cassou > <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> That looks great, though I would prefer a sans-serif font (DejaVu >>> Sans) instead of a serif font (DejaVu Serif) in the UI. >>> Serif fonts add too much noise on the screen and are typically >>> used in >>> print only, not in user interfaces. >> >> If people agree with this, I can change that. The script I currently >> use is the following one. If you have ideas on how to improve it, >> please tell me. >> >> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 10. >> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize: 9. >> Preferences setListFontTo: font. >> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. >> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. >> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. >> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 11. >> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: font. >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them >> popular by not having them." James Iry >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Damien Pollet > type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 21, 2009

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [Lsehub-staff] Top 10 programming fonts

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Begin forwarded message: > From: Laval Jannik <jannik.laval(a)inria.fr> > Date: May 19, 2009 2:53:48 PM CEDT > To: notre liste <lsehub-staff(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Subject: [Lsehub-staff] Top 10 programming fonts > Reply-To: notre liste <lsehub-staff(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > > http://hivelogic.com/articles/view/top-10-programming-fonts > > --- > Jannik Laval > PhD Student - Rmod Team - INRIA > Certified Project Management Associate (IPMA) > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr > --- > > > _______________________________________________ > Lsehub-staff mailing list > Lsehub-staff(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lsehub-staff >

May 21, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts configuration

by Hilaire Fernandes

Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in Pharo could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY. Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously expressed there: -Dejavu Sans for all but code -Code with Dedavu mono The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage code related previsouly, is of equal importance. If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN AWAY. 2009/5/21 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Hi guys > > on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default means ok > for license and > work on platforms.... > > Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts even if > they are proprietary. > > So I hope that I woke the designer in you :) > Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress girls :) > > > font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10. > codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize: 9. > titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 11. > > Preferences setListFontTo: font. > Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. > Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. > Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. > Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. > Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. > > > Stef > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

May 21, 2009

[Pharo-project] About "external" pharo code

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys I would like to have a discussion with you. What do we do with the code like the excellent PlotMorph that do not have its own package. Do we create a package for it? Do we create a PharoAddOnsOrphans? Ideally I would like that people can maintain improve such packages as well as the ones we may remove (ledMorph and others). Stef

May 21, 2009

[Pharo-project] Possible PhD grant for European

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi all I just learned that I could apply for a PhD grant for european student (non-french). So if you are interested by research on reengineering or language design please contact me. Stef

May 21, 2009

[Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts configuration

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default means ok for license and work on platforms.... Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts even if they are proprietary. So I hope that I woke the designer in you :) Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress girls :) font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10. codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize: 9. titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 11. Preferences setListFontTo: font. Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. Stef

May 21, 2009