May 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Crypt ... Libraries ...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Of course using C libraries is an interesting alternative now somebody has to do it written in C = maintain in C then we end up building walls around us, I like the idea that I can learn something by reading and putting a break point in the code. So if the crypto is working in Squeak I suggest to keep it. Igor I would not rewrite it. On May 26, 2009, at 1:04 AM, stepken wrote: > https, md5, DES, AES .... i really wonder, why you can't decide to > plugin libcrypt ....? > > In C programming language we have all, we can imagine. So why reinvent > the wheel by rewriting complex code in smalltalk? > > Why not including a small webserver in C language as plugin? Code is > there. > > Same with pdf libs - why not using Display PDF in C code with e.g. > PANGO, like Apple did with Mac OS X? > > No, instead of doing so, MORPHIC is still there, based on C-LANG > blitter > code. > > In Morphic, i noticed long time ago, there existed the possibility to > print every screen object, writing it directly to file, sending it to > the printer afterwards. > It never worked for me, i tried in 3.6, 3.8, 3.9. > > Being abble to print contents out of the box in PDF format, the > successor of PS, really would be nice ... > > Dear Squeak, Smalltalk, Pharo - developers - Do you still have the > overview or are you lost in Smalltalk details? > > cheers, Guido Stepken > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 26, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Crypt ... Libraries ...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> > I think that after the 1.0 milestone, the core team should decide > about the infrastructure for applications & frameworks. Right now in > Squeak, there is too much way to install software : SqueakMap, > SqueakSource, Universes, changesets, sar ... > In Ruby, there is just one way to package software : > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RubyGems much more simpler for beginners. yeap!

May 26, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Crypt ... Libraries ...

by Serge Stinckwich

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Carlos Crosetti <carlos(a)mostar.com.ar> wrote: > I am not in the position to discuss but I think the pharo communnity shows > strong leadership so is feasibe to have a core team focused on the > milestones and seeveral teams focused on frameworks and applications I think that after the 1.0 milestone, the core team should decide about the infrastructure for applications & frameworks. Right now in Squeak, there is too much way to install software : SqueakMap, SqueakSource, Universes, changesets, sar ... In Ruby, there is just one way to package software : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RubyGems much more simpler for beginners. -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] http://doesnotunderstand.org/

May 26, 2009

[Pharo-project] WikiServer - very nice!

by David T. Lewis

I finally tried downloading some applications to an iPod Touch that I received as a birthday present last year (OK, I'm a slow learner). I tried Google Earth and John's WikiServer. Both very cool. So now I have a complete wiki and web server running on that little gadget. Fits in my pocket, no disk drives, no wires. Nicely done John. Dave

May 26, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Crypt ... Libraries ...

by Carlos Crosetti

I am not in the position to discuss but I think the pharo communnity shows strong leadership so is feasibe to have a core team focused on the milestones and seeveral teams focused on frameworks and applications -----Mensaje original----- De: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr]En nombre de stepken Enviado el: Lunes, 25 de Mayo de 2009 08:05 p.m. Para: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Asunto: [Pharo-project] Crypt ... Libraries ... https, md5, DES, AES .... i really wonder, why you can't decide to plugin libcrypt ....? In C programming language we have all, we can imagine. So why reinvent the wheel by rewriting complex code in smalltalk? Why not including a small webserver in C language as plugin? Code is there. Same with pdf libs - why not using Display PDF in C code with e.g. PANGO, like Apple did with Mac OS X? No, instead of doing so, MORPHIC is still there, based on C-LANG blitter code. In Morphic, i noticed long time ago, there existed the possibility to print every screen object, writing it directly to file, sending it to the printer afterwards. It never worked for me, i tried in 3.6, 3.8, 3.9. Being abble to print contents out of the box in PDF format, the successor of PS, really would be nice ... Dear Squeak, Smalltalk, Pharo - developers - Do you still have the overview or are you lost in Smalltalk details? cheers, Guido Stepken _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 30/04/2009 05:53 p.m.

May 26, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo FFI 3.9.1

by Carlos Crosetti

thanks so much ran "Win32Utils getCommonEnvironmentVariables" safe and sound -----Mensaje original----- De: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr]En nombre de Mariano Martinez Peck Enviado el: Lunes, 25 de Mayo de 2009 07:47 p.m. Para: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Asunto: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo FFI 3.9.1 You can install it just evaluating this: ScriptLoader loadFFI. This is also here: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CodeSnippets Cheers, Mariano On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:40 PM, clarence.westberg <clarence.westberg(a)gmail.com> wrote: What is the secret to getting FFI 3.9.1 to install from the Universe Browser in Pharo? I always get a MessageNotUnderstood: MIMEType>>indexOf: error _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 26, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Crypt ... Libraries ...

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Stepken: I think that this is a good idea, but.... Pharo developers are few and limited. They are trying to do all of their best on Pharo. We know this an important package but perhaps they have more important things to do. Pharo is not even in a beta of first milestone. This can be planned in a future milestone. Porting the actual cryptography package to Pharo perhaps is much easier than wrap an entire library. Any code is welcome :) As I said in the other thread about this, I think this is a perfect project for ESUG SummerTalk. It has the Pharo philosofy. I mean, if Pharo want to be an opensource smalltalk to create real enterprise applications, then cryptography package is needed. Cheers, Mariano On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:04 PM, stepken <stepken(a)web.de> wrote: > https, md5, DES, AES .... i really wonder, why you can't decide to > plugin libcrypt ....? > > In C programming language we have all, we can imagine. So why reinvent > the wheel by rewriting complex code in smalltalk? > > Why not including a small webserver in C language as plugin? Code is there. > > Same with pdf libs - why not using Display PDF in C code with e.g. > PANGO, like Apple did with Mac OS X? > > No, instead of doing so, MORPHIC is still there, based on C-LANG blitter > code. > > In Morphic, i noticed long time ago, there existed the possibility to > print every screen object, writing it directly to file, sending it to > the printer afterwards. > It never worked for me, i tried in 3.6, 3.8, 3.9. > > Being abble to print contents out of the box in PDF format, the > successor of PS, really would be nice ... > > Dear Squeak, Smalltalk, Pharo - developers - Do you still have the > overview or are you lost in Smalltalk details? > > cheers, Guido Stepken > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 26, 2009

[Pharo-project] Crypt ... Libraries ...

by stepken

https, md5, DES, AES .... i really wonder, why you can't decide to plugin libcrypt ....? In C programming language we have all, we can imagine. So why reinvent the wheel by rewriting complex code in smalltalk? Why not including a small webserver in C language as plugin? Code is there. Same with pdf libs - why not using Display PDF in C code with e.g. PANGO, like Apple did with Mac OS X? No, instead of doing so, MORPHIC is still there, based on C-LANG blitter code. In Morphic, i noticed long time ago, there existed the possibility to print every screen object, writing it directly to file, sending it to the printer afterwards. It never worked for me, i tried in 3.6, 3.8, 3.9. Being abble to print contents out of the box in PDF format, the successor of PS, really would be nice ... Dear Squeak, Smalltalk, Pharo - developers - Do you still have the overview or are you lost in Smalltalk details? cheers, Guido Stepken

May 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo FFI 3.9.1

by Mariano Martinez Peck

You can install it just evaluating this: ScriptLoader loadFFI. This is also here: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CodeSnippets Cheers, Mariano On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:40 PM, clarence.westberg < clarence.westberg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What is the secret to getting FFI 3.9.1 to install from the Universe > Browser in Pharo? I always get a MessageNotUnderstood: > MIMEType>>indexOf: error > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 25, 2009

[Pharo-project] Pharo FFI 3.9.1

by clarence.westberg

What is the secret to getting FFI 3.9.1 to install from the Universe Browser in Pharo? I always get a MessageNotUnderstood: MIMEType>>indexOf: error

May 25, 2009