May 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] ScriptLoader>>loadMetacello

by Alexandre Bergel

No real documentation for now, only email exchanges. Metacello currently works at top of MC1 and using MC2 should not be a problem. It is still early work, but looks promising. Dale is putting a great energy into it. I am experimenting with few projects I am familiar with. I will send a report to this mailing list in a few days time. Cheers, Alexandre On 27 May 2009, at 16:10, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Ahh okok. Is this documented somewhere? For example, advantages it > has compared to standard MC ? or against MC 2. Features? is it > stable or is still in development phase ? > > thanks! > > Mariano > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Alexandre Bergel > <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: > A version management system built at the top of Monticello by Dale > Henrichs from Gemstone. It is a bit early to say whether it will gain > a large adoption in Pharo or not. But one single method does not hurt > much I think > > Dale, are you member of Pharo? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 27 May 2009, at 15:59, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > hey what's Metacello ? > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel <Alexandre.Bergel(a)inria.fr > > > wrote: > > Name: ScriptLoader-Alexandre_Bergel.877 > > Author: Alexandre.Bergel > > Time: 27 May 2009, 3:43:22 pm > > UUID: 84df91c2-2efc-4cfd-8f0a-d566e9e05f73 > > Ancestors: ScriptLoader-stephane_ducasse.876, ScriptLoader- > > Alexandre_Bergel.861 > > > > - minor refactoring > > - added loadMetacello > > > > ISSUE 850 > > > > Waiting in PharoInbox > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

May 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] New Pharo based on core 10318 with antialiased fonts

by Adrian Lienhard

Upload where? The OB tools are not part of Pharo-core, so we cannot patch it there. Hence this really needs to go to the OB repository from which Damien creates Pharo images. I don't know much about OB and who maintains it, so could somebody tell us what the right way to get patches integrated is? Cheers, Adrian On May 27, 2009, at 22:17 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > What we could do is to upload both quick workaround (the one Nico > did for > the debugger) and the one of creating the method isClassNode which > returns > false. Obviously this is temporal till the real fix arrives. The > ticket > won't be closed. > > Then we add a comment in the ticket that says "to reproduce this, > remove > isClassNode method and do a right click on the code ....". > > I think this will help Pharo users. > > Cheers, > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> > wrote: > >> Thanks. >> No let's hope some OB maintainer picks it up... >> >> Adrian >> >> On May 27, 2009, at 21:17 , Nicolas Chillo wrote: >> >>> Ready. >>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=849 >>> >>> Nicolas >>> >>> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Nicolas, >>>> >>>> Could you open an issue in the tracker? This would significantly >>>> decrease the risk that the bug gets forgotten. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Adrian >>>> >>>> On May 27, 2009, at 20:05 , Nicolas Chillo wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>> I recently download the new 10318 development image and it seems >>>>> the >>>>> OBTextSelection>>isClassNode MNU is not fixed yet. >>>>> (See >>>>> >>>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-May/008782.html) >>>>> I just want to remind it for you to fix it because it would be a >>>>> really pity >>>>> to release a version with such a silly error. >>>>> Thanks and excellent work. >>>>> Nicolas >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Damien Cassou < >> damien.cassou(a)gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Simon Denier <Simon.Denier(a)inria.fr >>>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Yes, installing ECompletionOmniBrowser before OCompletion >>>>>>> should do >>>>>>> the trick. >>>>>> >>>>>> Could you please check Romain and tell me so that I can update >>>>>> the >>>>>> script? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Damien Cassou >>>>>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>>>>> >>>>>> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes >>>>>> them >>>>>> popular by not having them." James Iry >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] New Pharo based on core 10318 with antialiased fonts

by Mariano Martinez Peck

What we could do is to upload both quick workaround (the one Nico did for the debugger) and the one of creating the method isClassNode which returns false. Obviously this is temporal till the real fix arrives. The ticket won't be closed. Then we add a comment in the ticket that says "to reproduce this, remove isClassNode method and do a right click on the code ....". I think this will help Pharo users. Cheers, On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > Thanks. > No let's hope some OB maintainer picks it up... > > Adrian > > On May 27, 2009, at 21:17 , Nicolas Chillo wrote: > > > Ready. > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=849 > > > > Nicolas > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Nicolas, > >> > >> Could you open an issue in the tracker? This would significantly > >> decrease the risk that the bug gets forgotten. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Adrian > >> > >> On May 27, 2009, at 20:05 , Nicolas Chillo wrote: > >> > >>> Hi. > >>> I recently download the new 10318 development image and it seems the > >>> OBTextSelection>>isClassNode MNU is not fixed yet. > >>> (See > >>> > >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-May/008782.html) > >>> I just want to remind it for you to fix it because it would be a > >>> really pity > >>> to release a version with such a silly error. > >>> Thanks and excellent work. > >>> Nicolas > >>> > >>> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Damien Cassou < > damien.cassou(a)gmail.com > >>>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Simon Denier <Simon.Denier(a)inria.fr > >>>> > > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> Yes, installing ECompletionOmniBrowser before OCompletion > >>>>> should do > >>>>> the trick. > >>>> > >>>> Could you please check Romain and tell me so that I can update the > >>>> script? > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Damien Cassou > >>>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > >>>> > >>>> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > >>>> popular by not having them." James Iry > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ScriptLoader>>loadMetacello

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Ahh okok. Is this documented somewhere? For example, advantages it has compared to standard MC ? or against MC 2. Features? is it stable or is still in development phase ? thanks! Mariano On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > A version management system built at the top of Monticello by Dale > Henrichs from Gemstone. It is a bit early to say whether it will gain > a large adoption in Pharo or not. But one single method does not hurt > much I think > > Dale, are you member of Pharo? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 27 May 2009, at 15:59, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > hey what's Metacello ? > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel < > Alexandre.Bergel(a)inria.fr > > > wrote: > > Name: ScriptLoader-Alexandre_Bergel.877 > > Author: Alexandre.Bergel > > Time: 27 May 2009, 3:43:22 pm > > UUID: 84df91c2-2efc-4cfd-8f0a-d566e9e05f73 > > Ancestors: ScriptLoader-stephane_ducasse.876, ScriptLoader- > > Alexandre_Bergel.861 > > > > - minor refactoring > > - added loadMetacello > > > > ISSUE 850 > > > > Waiting in PharoInbox > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ScriptLoader>>loadMetacello

by Alexandre Bergel

A version management system built at the top of Monticello by Dale Henrichs from Gemstone. It is a bit early to say whether it will gain a large adoption in Pharo or not. But one single method does not hurt much I think Dale, are you member of Pharo? Cheers, Alexandre On 27 May 2009, at 15:59, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > hey what's Metacello ? > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel <Alexandre.Bergel(a)inria.fr > > wrote: > Name: ScriptLoader-Alexandre_Bergel.877 > Author: Alexandre.Bergel > Time: 27 May 2009, 3:43:22 pm > UUID: 84df91c2-2efc-4cfd-8f0a-d566e9e05f73 > Ancestors: ScriptLoader-stephane_ducasse.876, ScriptLoader- > Alexandre_Bergel.861 > > - minor refactoring > - added loadMetacello > > ISSUE 850 > > Waiting in PharoInbox > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

May 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ScriptLoader>>loadMetacello

by Mariano Martinez Peck

hey what's Metacello ? On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel <Alexandre.Bergel(a)inria.fr > wrote: > Name: ScriptLoader-Alexandre_Bergel.877 > Author: Alexandre.Bergel > Time: 27 May 2009, 3:43:22 pm > UUID: 84df91c2-2efc-4cfd-8f0a-d566e9e05f73 > Ancestors: ScriptLoader-stephane_ducasse.876, ScriptLoader- > Alexandre_Bergel.861 > > - minor refactoring > - added loadMetacello > > ISSUE 850 > > Waiting in PharoInbox > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 27, 2009

[Pharo-project] ScriptLoader>>loadMetacello

by Alexandre Bergel

Name: ScriptLoader-Alexandre_Bergel.877 Author: Alexandre.Bergel Time: 27 May 2009, 3:43:22 pm UUID: 84df91c2-2efc-4cfd-8f0a-d566e9e05f73 Ancestors: ScriptLoader-stephane_ducasse.876, ScriptLoader- Alexandre_Bergel.861 - minor refactoring - added loadMetacello ISSUE 850 Waiting in PharoInbox Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

May 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] New Pharo based on core 10318 with antialiased fonts

by Adrian Lienhard

Thanks. No let's hope some OB maintainer picks it up... Adrian On May 27, 2009, at 21:17 , Nicolas Chillo wrote: > Ready. > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=849 > > Nicolas > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> > wrote: > >> Hi Nicolas, >> >> Could you open an issue in the tracker? This would significantly >> decrease the risk that the bug gets forgotten. >> >> Thanks, >> Adrian >> >> On May 27, 2009, at 20:05 , Nicolas Chillo wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> I recently download the new 10318 development image and it seems the >>> OBTextSelection>>isClassNode MNU is not fixed yet. >>> (See >>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-May/008782.html) >>> I just want to remind it for you to fix it because it would be a >>> really pity >>> to release a version with such a silly error. >>> Thanks and excellent work. >>> Nicolas >>> >>> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Simon Denier <Simon.Denier(a)inria.fr >>>> > >>>> wrote: >>>>> Yes, installing ECompletionOmniBrowser before OCompletion >>>>> should do >>>>> the trick. >>>> >>>> Could you please check Romain and tell me so that I can update the >>>> script? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Damien Cassou >>>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>>> >>>> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them >>>> popular by not having them." James Iry >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and XML

by Michael Rueger

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > The problem with the tests of mike is that they required external > files and so I do not know > if they were run. I haven't looked at those tests in a long while. A lot of them failed because back then here was no unicode support in Squeak. So, a fresh look couldn't hurt :-) Michael

May 27, 2009

[Pharo-project] Bug with debugger ?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi folks! I think there is a little (but a bit annoying) bug with the debugger. To reproduce it: 1) put a self break somewhere 2) Just evaluate or run that piece of code 3) When the debugger windows is prompt, select "debug" 4) Once inside the debugger, the "self break" is not highlighted with blue color. It only does that when you go with the mouse to the code area of the current method. (at the bottom) What I think it should do is to be blue highlighted from the beginning (without going with the mouse to the code area). If someone confirm this I will create a ticket. Thanks! Mariano

May 27, 2009