May 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] NetNameResolver problem on Linux Ubuntu 9.04

by Alain Plantec

Michael Rueger a Ã©crit : > Alain Plantec wrote: > >> I'm on Ubuntu 9.04, I'm using Exupery VM 0.15.1. >> >> I do not have any problem on a VirtualBox/Ubuntu 8.10, same VM. > > Hmm, as that is a major version change in Ubuntu we may need to build > a new VM? > Anyone any ideas what changed between the two Ubuntu versions? Damien is using the same Ubuntu version with the same Exupery VM without any problem.... alain > > Michael > >

May 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Add a method to String freezes my pharo image

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Mariano, Actually it behaves as expected. I first defined String>>localize ^ self _then_ String>>printOn: aStream "Print inside string quotes, doubling inbedded quotes." self size < 100 ifTrue: [ self localize storeOn: aStream ] ifFalse: [ self storeOn: aStream ] No freeze. I haven't tried to create printOn: before creating localize. It may freeze, but this is expected. Alexandre On 5 May 2009, at 19:29, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Alexandre Bergel > <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: > The localize method is present neither in .dev image nor in a core. > > No. I was creating it. However, what I reported happens with any > selector name. Choose any other name instead of localize and you > will get the same problem! > > Thanks for the help! > > Mariano > > > > Alexandre > > > On 5 May 2009, at 17:52, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > Fuck....It seems to be more complex to reproduce. These are the > > steps I am doing > > > > 1) open OB. > > 2) go to String class, method printOn: > > 3) modify printOn: to this: > > > > printOn: aStream > > "Print inside string quotes, doubling inbedded quotes." > > > > self size < 100 > > ifTrue: [ self localize storeOn: aStream ] > > ifFalse: [ self storeOn: aStream ] > > > > 4) save it and put initials if asked. > > 5) as localize is not created yet, it ask you the selector. Ignore > > it and select localize (the first option) > > 6) ctrl + a (select all text) and try to create the method localize. > > It can be just empty this method. > > 7) try to save > > 8) your image may be freeze :) > > > > > > Can you confirm this ? I am sorry I said I was on Linux. I thought I > > was at home, but not, unfortunately I am with Windows at work :( > > > > Cheers, > > > > Mariano > > > > > > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Alexandre Bergel > > <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: > > > Cool! I'm currently collecting all the cases which freezing an > > image, > > > to find a best way in new scheduler how to prevent that. > > > I need more!! :) > > > > > > :) But does this happen also to you ? > > > > > > In a 10300 on OSX I can do without any problem: > > String compile: 'foo ^ 60'. 'abc' foo > > => 60 > > > > Something more you want me to test ? > > > > Alexandre > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Mariano > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- > > project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Best regards, > > > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- > project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- > project > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

May 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] SubpaneDividerMorph question of existence

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Hello StÃ©phane, It was the divider used when the system browsers were all green and plain (Squeak versions up to 3.0) and from there was replaced by BorderedSubpaneDividerMorph in the main Squeak distribution. Cheers, HernÃ¡n 2009/5/5 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Hi buzy pharoers > > I found a removal script from etoyers and they removed > SubpaneDividerMorph. > I check in Pharo this class has no subclass and nobody uses it. > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] NetNameResolver problem on Linux Ubuntu 9.04

by Cameron Sanders

This is the solution I used for the Mac. See the recent thread of: Monticello/ftp stopped working for me. The FTP side has another defect I mentioned... and I guess I need to learn where to enter that detail in the bug tracking system. -Cam On May 5, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: > Hi all, > Since one week I have network problems: > system update is not working, Monticello can't open any http > repository... > I've investigated a little bit and found that NetNameResolver always > fail when trying to resolve > www.squeaksource.com as an example: > NetNameResolver addressForName: 'www.squeaksource.com' > result is always nil. > I can make it work only by setting true to the #UseOldNetwork > NetNameResolver class variable. > I'm on Ubuntu 9.04, I'm using Exupery VM 0.15.1. > > I do not have any problem on a VirtualBox/Ubuntu 8.10, same VM. > > Cheers > Alain > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] NetNameResolver problem on Linux Ubuntu 9.04

by John M McIntosh

Bert sent me a note saying for example 'localhost' returns an IPV6 address in checking it see ::1(localhost),0(0)-inet6-stream-tcp fe80::1%lo0(localhost),0(0)-inet6-stream-tcp 127.0.0.1(localhost),0(0)-inet4-stream-tcp then returns the first one. Well mmm that breaks things that think they might get an ipv4 address back, so should it be check look for IPV4 first as the desired value, then fallback to ipv6? I recall on the iPhone the same issues but a bit more fun since you have both IPV4 and IPV6 but also since you have multiple interfaces a set of address for cellular and a set for WiFi, and for WikiServer it's the IPV4 wifi one you want, assuming it's not DOA since the interface could be trying to confirm it's alive as you are asking for it.. (but really you've walk outside the range of the WiFi zone). On 5-May-09, at 1:42 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: > Hi all, > Since one week I have network problems: > system update is not working, Monticello can't open any http > repository... > I've investigated a little bit and found that NetNameResolver always > fail when trying to resolve > www.squeaksource.com as an example: > NetNameResolver addressForName: 'www.squeaksource.com' > result is always nil. > I can make it work only by setting true to the #UseOldNetwork > NetNameResolver class variable. > I'm on Ubuntu 9.04, I'm using Exupery VM 0.15.1. > > I do not have any problem on a VirtualBox/Ubuntu 8.10, same VM. > > Cheers > Alain = = = ======================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com = = = ========================================================================

May 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] NetNameResolver problem on Linux Ubuntu 9.04

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Michael Rueger <m.rueger(a)acm.org> wrote: > Alain Plantec wrote: > > > I'm on Ubuntu 9.04, I'm using Exupery VM 0.15.1. > > > > I do not have any problem on a VirtualBox/Ubuntu 8.10, same VM. > > Hmm, as that is a major version change in Ubuntu we may need to build a > new VM? > Anyone any ideas what changed between the two Ubuntu versions? > <OFF-TOPIC> Yes. It uses xorg 1.6 which for ATI it needs the ati driver version 9.3. But, what happens ? ATI in the 9.3 version has eliminated a lot of graphic card models. Even those not so old (perhaps an year). Sorry for the OT but I am furious. I cannot update to 9.04 because of my fucking ATI. </OFF-TOPIC> > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] NetNameResolver problem on Linux Ubuntu 9.04

by Michael Rueger

Alain Plantec wrote: > I'm on Ubuntu 9.04, I'm using Exupery VM 0.15.1. > > I do not have any problem on a VirtualBox/Ubuntu 8.10, same VM. Hmm, as that is a major version change in Ubuntu we may need to build a new VM? Anyone any ideas what changed between the two Ubuntu versions? Michael

May 5, 2009

[Pharo-project] NetNameResolver problem on Linux Ubuntu 9.04

by Alain Plantec

Hi all, Since one week I have network problems: system update is not working, Monticello can't open any http repository... I've investigated a little bit and found that NetNameResolver always fail when trying to resolve www.squeaksource.com as an example: NetNameResolver addressForName: 'www.squeaksource.com' result is always nil. I can make it work only by setting true to the #UseOldNetwork NetNameResolver class variable. I'm on Ubuntu 9.04, I'm using Exupery VM 0.15.1. I do not have any problem on a VirtualBox/Ubuntu 8.10, same VM. Cheers Alain

May 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Add a method to String freezes my pharo image

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:21 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>wrote: > why don't you define a displayString for your user and keep printOn: > for the debugger. > In VW this is like that. > I don't know If I can do this. I've just send an email to Pier mailing lists explaining why I wanted to do that. Perhaps you can read it and tell me if this (displayString could help me in this case). Thanks for the help! > > Stef > > On May 5, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> > > wrote: > > Hi Mariano, > > > > I think the problem is that since #localize is not implemented the > > system stops working because it depends on String>>printOn: > > (considering that source code is a string too...). > > > > Yes. I think this is the reason. > > > > If you first > > implement #localize and then implement #printOn: it seems to work ok. > > > > I tried that and works ok. > > > > > > In any case, overriding String>>printOn: does not seem to be a good > > idea. > > > > Yes. I know. But, there is a reason. I need to get int18 in Pier > > components because my final user (spanish) will do thing with Pier, > > like posting, and I need to have it in Spanish. I thought I could > > override String >> printOn: so that translate to spanish. > > However, I couldn't test this solution. I was going to tested and > > then send an email to Pier list and see if there is a better > > solution for this. I don't want to touch Pier code. > > > > Thanks for your concern about that ;) > > > > > > HTH, > > Adrian > > > > On May 5, 2009, at 17:52 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > Fuck....It seems to be more complex to reproduce. These are the > > > steps I am > > > doing > > > > > > 1) open OB. > > > 2) go to String class, method printOn: > > > 3) modify printOn: to this: > > > > > > printOn: aStream > > > "Print inside string quotes, doubling inbedded quotes." > > > > > > self size < 100 > > > ifTrue: [ self localize storeOn: aStream ] > > > ifFalse: [ self storeOn: aStream ] > > > > > > 4) save it and put initials if asked. > > > 5) as localize is not created yet, it ask you the selector. Ignore > > > it and > > > select localize (the first option) > > > 6) ctrl + a (select all text) and try to create the method localize. > > > It can > > > be just empty this method. > > > 7) try to save > > > 8) your image may be freeze :) > > > > > > > > > Can you confirm this ? I am sorry I said I was on Linux. I thought I > > > was at > > > home, but not, unfortunately I am with Windows at work :( > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Mariano > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Alexandre Bergel > > > <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > > > > > >>> Cool! I'm currently collecting all the cases which freezing an > > >>> image, > > >>> to find a best way in new scheduler how to prevent that. > > >>> I need more!! :) > > >>> > > >>> :) But does this happen also to you ? > > >> > > >> > > >> In a 10300 on OSX I can do without any problem: > > >> String compile: 'foo ^ 60'. 'abc' foo > > >> => 60 > > >> > > >> Something more you want me to test ? > > >> > > >> Alexandre > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Cheers, > > >>>> > > >>>> Mariano > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > > >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Best regards, > > >>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- > > project > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- > > project > > >> > > >> -- > > >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Pharo-project mailing list > > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Add a method to String freezes my pharo image

by Michael Roberts

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:21 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > why don't you define a displayString for your user and keep printOn: > for the debugger. > In VW this is like that. > > Stef > +1 from experience systems that have deeply extended or altered printOn: & printString are a pain. It should be left for tool support. Mike

May 5, 2009