April 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Lots of characters lost while typing in Unix

by Igor Stasenko

2009/4/20 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Would a platform specific code or infrastructure help there? > There should be some kind of detection algorythm , which can switch between polling and waiting on input semaphore. My proposal is to change the primitive (primInterruptSemaphore: aSemaphore ) to return boolean value, showing that input semaphore signaling is available. Then the code can use polling or waiting depending on returned result (the primitive in older VM's don't return informal value - it just returns a receiver). Andreas disagree with this approach, saying that same could be achieved w/o changes in VM by checking if input semaphore ever signaled, and if so, then switch from polling (which should be installed by default) to waiting. Both ways is doable, and should work well, it just shows our different approach. >> Nicolas Cellier wrote: >>> Why not using the event driven superclass rather than the polling >>> subclass ? >> >> because afaik not all VMs (Windows) support it. See my other mail. >> >> Michael >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

April 20, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

by Alexandre Bergel

Strange. Cut&Paste works perfectly for me. I use Pharo0.1Core-10281cl and Squeak 4.0.1beta1U Alexandre On 20 Apr 2009, at 17:26, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > On Apr 20, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Michael Rueger wrote: > >> Nicolas Cellier wrote: >>> Same on Unix >> >> Now I'm confused. >> On the Mac it doesn't work at all, right? > > Yes it does not work at all. > I cannot copy and paster from within pharo but also from another app > to pharo > I cannot copy in phaor and paste in another app. > >> And on Unix it works for alt but not ctrl? >> Isn't that simply a setting in the swap control-alt key preference? >> >> Speaking of which, this whole ctrl/alt swap/duplicate nonsense really >> needs to go. Which of course would mean a lot of changes in short >> cuts. > > Youpi! but for 1.1 :) > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

April 20, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakMap Package Loader?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thansk goran. If you can make sure that squeakMap is working as an external package this is great. This is not our purpose to consciously break it (as we are doing with etoy and friends). Stef On Apr 20, 2009, at 2:45 PM, GÃ¶ran Krampe wrote: > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> yes so this is still interesting to know whether it is broken as an >> external package. > > I can take a look later tonight. I tried showing Pharo to a friend > here > and noticed it was broken. I think it may be the issue I fixed > earlier - > perhaps just not put into Pharo. > > regards, GÃ¶ran > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 20, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Input sensor rewrite

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

works great! I will release now then the delays fixes of nicolas. Then some extra cleans. On Apr 20, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Michael Rueger wrote: > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> Does it imply that I was too prompt at harvesting the event rewrite? > > no, not really. > > One question though is why key events get lost, they should not, even > with long polling delays. Well, should... > > I've published a fix in > Kernel-michael_rueger.renggli.295 > > It might be that the problems I ran into are caused by the Delay bugs > fixed in later packages, but I figured out a way to make it work > anyways. > > I'll now look at the copy paste problems. > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 20, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Lots of characters lost while typing in Unix

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Would a platform specific code or infrastructure help there? > Nicolas Cellier wrote: >> Why not using the event driven superclass rather than the polling >> subclass ? > > because afaik not all VMs (Windows) support it. See my other mail. > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 20, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Apr 20, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Michael Rueger wrote: > Nicolas Cellier wrote: >> Same on Unix > > Now I'm confused. > On the Mac it doesn't work at all, right? Yes it does not work at all. I cannot copy and paster from within pharo but also from another app to pharo I cannot copy in phaor and paste in another app. > And on Unix it works for alt but not ctrl? > Isn't that simply a setting in the swap control-alt key preference? > > Speaking of which, this whole ctrl/alt swap/duplicate nonsense really > needs to go. Which of course would mean a lot of changes in short > cuts. Youpi! but for 1.1 :) Stef

April 20, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Lots of characters lost while typing in Unix

by Michael Rueger

Nicolas Cellier wrote: > Why not using the event driven superclass rather than the polling subclass ? because afaik not all VMs (Windows) support it. See my other mail. Michael

April 20, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

by Michael Rueger

Nicolas Cellier wrote: > Same on Unix Now I'm confused. On the Mac it doesn't work at all, right? And on Unix it works for alt but not ctrl? Isn't that simply a setting in the swap control-alt key preference? Speaking of which, this whole ctrl/alt swap/duplicate nonsense really needs to go. Which of course would mean a lot of changes in short cuts. Michael > > 2009/4/20 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>: >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:36 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> Yes I have the same problem I cannot do copy and paste anymore on mac >> I does not work for me if I use CTRL, but it works if I use ALT. >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 20, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakMap Package Loader?

by GÃ¶ran Krampe

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > yes so this is still interesting to know whether it is broken as an > external package. I can take a look later tonight. I tried showing Pharo to a friend here and noticed it was broken. I think it may be the issue I fixed earlier - perhaps just not put into Pharo. regards, GÃ¶ran

April 20, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Some bugs with the last version of pharo (10281) and pharo-dev (10284)

by Michael Rueger

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Yes I have the same problem I cannot do copy and paste anymore on mac > with latest vm > and latest image. Hmm, what is the magic with the Mac edit menu again? Invoking cut etc from the menu via mouse doesn't work either. I'm lost though how the edit menu is connected to the commands. Michael

April 20, 2009