April 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow Image

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:35 PM, <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: >> Anyone with a win32 system able to confirm that the new image slows >> heavily down as descibed in [1] using the procedure in [2]? I confirm it's very slow using Windows XP Pro SP3 on Virtual Box, image 10293. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

April 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Socket problems

by Alexandre Bergel

Let us know when we can try again. The error was introduced with Network-Kernel-stephane_ducasse.6. Loading the previous version (Network-Kernel-michael_rueger.1) enables to load OBAlpha. Cheers, Alexandre On 29 Apr 2009, at 12:57, Michael Rueger wrote: > Hi all, > > just to get an overview: have these problems been reproduced on all > platforms? At least for me loading OBAlpha worked on Windows but > failed > on Linux and Mac (both using the same socket plugin code). > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

April 29, 2009

[Pharo-project] Fullscreen mode should have a menu entry

by stephan＠stack.nl

Found the issue. Full screen mode has a usability problem. Issue 779: When in fullscreen mode, the world menu should allow a user to switch back Stephan

April 29, 2009

[Pharo-project] Socket problems

by Michael Rueger

Hi all, just to get an overview: have these problems been reproduced on all platforms? At least for me loading OBAlpha worked on Windows but failed on Linux and Mac (both using the same socket plugin code). Michael

April 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow Image

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It took approximatively 20 minutes to build on my image. Sorry: Ubuntu Linux 9.04, 32bits -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

April 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] About Mantis 7343 socket timeout rollover

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=778 On Apr 28, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > PharoInbox/SLICE-M7343-Socket-Rollover-bug-nice.1 > > After http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7343 > Socket timeout can suffer rollover problem > (Happens on server with high load and uptime>12 days) > > I did not load Andreas change directly > 1) He still uses questionnable (deadline - Time millisecondClockValue) > which is potentially >0 forever > 2) because of above choice, he protected with unecessary 500msecs > busy loop > (well necessary in this implementation, but not in absolute) > 3) he does not answer true when ok: HTTPSocket requires this... > > I moved the *Until: family message to a deprecated category, but did > not send (self deprecated: ...) > I corrected in image senders. > Do not remove now, they might be used by packages.

April 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow image

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi Torsten and other I took 10293cl and filed in your Builder and run it. And I could not test it because of this socket error. I will retry when this is fixed. stef On Apr 25, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: HI > Hi Damien, > > VM clean download from [1] > image clean download from [2] > Source file download from [3] > > Extract the files into one directory and update the system > so 11 new updates processed (gives you Pharo #10292). File > in the attached changeset with the image builder, answer > OK twice when asked and wait ... > > When you run it without an update (old #10281) it's faster. > Havent had time to look deeper. > > Bye > Torsten > > [1] http://squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.11.2-bin.zip > [2] http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/21874/Pharo0.1Core-10281cl.zip > [3] http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/4621/SqueakV39.sources.zip > -- > Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + > Telefonanschluss fÃ¼r nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a > <PHImageBuilder.st>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Preference initialization

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Apr 29, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Michael Rueger wrote: > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> still >> Don't you think that having a default can can be regenerated is not >> better and simple? > > > Not sure what you are saying here. I'm proposing having "something" so > we can regenerate the default setup. OK > > Alain proposed to be able to regenerate the current settings, which I > don't think is what we want, especially as that would mean dirty > packages every time you change a setting. OK I understand and I agree with you. > > > Michael > >>> But your proposal have me a different idea how to solve the problem >>> for preference values: >>> >>> For references to objects or classes in the value entry it would >>> help >>> to have the class reference search also go through the preference >>> values. That way you would get informed of references to a class >>> from >>> preferences before removing the class. >>> There are probably other well known locations that should be checked >>> (e.g. Object Dependents). >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] A russian-chars input problem

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Just noticed that pharo is not even in beta. Stef On Apr 29, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Dennis Schetinin wrote: > Dennis please > take the latest core and update. > > Unfortunately, I can't do it right now as I use Pharo for some > project which is itself a 'free-time' one. So I have absolutely no > time for experiments right now. But if it's already fixed (and even > if it is not), thanks for the work, guys. It's the first time I can > use Squeak for (more or less) serious work without constant pain > in... head and other parts of my body :). > > -- > Dennis Schetinin > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 29, 2009

[Pharo-project] Slow Image removes window decoration

by stephan＠stack.nl

An hour later, the pharo application goes full-screen on the second monitor, losing the window border, including title bar and icons. The updating continues, and an hour later finishes. I've tried interrupting the update process, but those interrupts only arrive after the update finishes. After saving and restarting, I now have a Pharo image without a window border. Reproducing the issue might be, uhhm, slow. Stephan

April 29, 2009