March 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] OB enhancement Object>>asArray considered harmful

by Igor Stasenko

Hello guys, i do not post this to OB list, because i'm too lazy to subscribing to it, and i know that OB people is here :) I don't think that such enhancement pays for error-free code asArray ^ Array with: self recently i made own class (a kind of linked list), and forgot to add #asArray implementation to it. And i lost 2 hours trying to understand why my code does not working and getting Array with: myList where i expecting to see array of myList elements. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] soap and Pharo

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

I found the last version in: ftp://swikis.ddo.jp/SoapOpera/SoapCore I did a full installation (load order (unzip the sar) so as no override) KomServices-gc.12.mcz (not sure needed) SoXML-jrd.10.mcz SOAP-Core-mu.61.mcz SOAP-Client-mu.4.mcz SOAP-Server-mu.11.mcz SOAP-Example-mu.8.mcz (optional) SOAP-TestCases-mu.33.mcz SOAP-Extra-mu.5.mcz not loaded: DynamicBindings-gk.2.mcz KomHttpServer-gk.14.mcz load ok but several tests are failing... I'll see later and reinstall to have initialization better done ... if someone has/know a working version ;) Cheers, CÃ©drick

March 5, 2009

[Pharo-project] soap and Pharo

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

Do you know if soap(core) load in Pharo ? There's a dependancy on Yaxo which doesn't load because of some mimetype problem. Maybe I'm wrong but there is already xml support in Pharo but not trough Yaxo... ? I loaded soap from universe (v0.1) but maybe there's a newer version ? Thanks -- CÃ©drick

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fonts in Linux

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

uhmm same problem for me if I understand well (no font by default except Accuny). What I did is loading ttf fonts trough the file browser. It works good except on some I have bad end line character. Is there a way on linux to have default OS fonts ? FT2Plugin ? Thanks 2009/3/5 Robert Roland <rob.roland(a)gmail.com>: > > Hi all, > > I feel dumb asking this question, but I've been using the Pharo image mostly > on a Mac, with the FT2Plugin installed, so I've gotten spoiled by having > nice fonts in the image. > > I've started wanting to use my Linux desktop (Ubuntu 8.10) too, but there > doesn't appear to be a Linux FT2Plugin, so I seem to be stuck with one font > only - Accuny. Â I haven't seen any other posts in this list related to that, > so I'm assuming everyone's on a different platform, found a way to fix this, > or likes Accuny. > > Having been spoiled by staring at Lucida Grande and Monaco, my eyes aren't > too happy with Accuny as my only option. > > I've only recently begun using the Squeak VM, but compared to the older > Squeak images, the Pharo image is worlds ahead. Â I'm looking forward to > participating more, but this font issue is going to nag me. :) > > Thanks for any help, > > Robert > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Fonts-in-Linux-tp2427790p2427790.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- CÃ©drick

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] New Compiler

by Igor Stasenko

2009/3/5 Michael van der Gulik <mikevdg(a)gmail.com>: > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Jorge Ressia <jorge.ressia(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> 3.- Error messages: at least like in the old compiler. > > > I would like to see a different way of editing code: any modifications in a > code pane are assumed to be unsaved changes to the source code. This means > that things like "Print it" and error messages should go to a separate text > pane on the UI somewhere - maybe a pop-up at the location of the error, or > in a status bar, or maybe a separate list of errors/warnings like other IDEs > do??? > > I haven't looked at the code for reporting error messages, but I'm assuming > (and hoping) that the compiler just reports an error message and a character > index, and the "presentation layer" does the notification? > I prefer a status line (or more complex morph) which appears at the bottom of text area - there can be shown an error message , as well as 'accept/cancel' buttons. We also could make it appear only if source has changed. > Gulik. > > -- > http://gulik.pbwiki.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fonts in Linux

by John M McIntosh

There is a FT2Plugin plugin buried in http://opensophie.org/ On 4-Mar-09, at 10:46 PM, Robert Roland wrote: > > Hi all, > > I feel dumb asking this question, but I've been using the Pharo > image mostly > on a Mac, with the FT2Plugin installed, so I've gotten spoiled by > having > nice fonts in the image. > > I've started wanting to use my Linux desktop (Ubuntu 8.10) too, but > there > doesn't appear to be a Linux FT2Plugin, so I seem to be stuck with > one font > only - Accuny. I haven't seen any other posts in this list related > to that, > so I'm assuming everyone's on a different platform, found a way to > fix this, > or likes Accuny. > > Having been spoiled by staring at Lucida Grande and Monaco, my eyes > aren't > too happy with Accuny as my only option. > > I've only recently begun using the Squeak VM, but compared to the > older > Squeak images, the Pharo image is worlds ahead. I'm looking forward > to > participating more, but this font issue is going to nag me. :) > > Thanks for any help, > > Robert > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Fonts-in-Linux-tp2427790p2427790.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- = = = ======================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com = = = ========================================================================

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] What's the problem people? :)

by GÃ¶ran Krampe

Keith Hodges wrote: > GÃ¶ran Krampe wrote: >> Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> >>> Hi GÃ¶ran, >>> >>> I think this is a good and constructive way to look at Squeak/Pharo! >>> >>> Re SqueakMap. We planned to remove SM from the core (doesn't need to >>> be part of an image that gets deployed), but make it loadable again >>> from the (not yet existing) universe. The only dependency I see is on >>> MC (MCSMCacheRepository), and a few overrides. Is there already a >>> loadable package for SM? >>> >> Well... yes... but I honestly don't recall the incantation! :) There is >> a small doit that sucks it down and installs it. No, not packaged as a >> simple MC - because it was meant to install in older Squeaks you know. >> >> Will look into it. >> >> regards, GÃ¶ran >> > Its not as simple as you might think. You will probably be all right in > an image which doesn't have it installed. I have added a utility script > to Installer expressly for loading Squeakmap. To invoke it directly use: > > Installer install: 'LevelPlayingField-UpdateSqueakMap'. > > The code that this runs is: > > > Installer wsm addPackage: 'SqueakMap2 base'; bootstrap; install. > Installer wsm addPackage: 'SqueakMap2 loader'; bootstrap; install. > Installer wsm addPackage: 'SqueakMap2 base'; install. > Installer wsm addPackage: 'SqueakMap2 loader'; install. > > the #bootstrap call, results in the mcz being installed with > MczInstaller from the source.st file. > > Keith Cool! Thanks Keith. regards, GÃ¶ran

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fonts in Linux

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks robert. I'm sure that somebody will help you. Stef On Mar 5, 2009, at 7:46 AM, Robert Roland wrote: > > Hi all, > > I feel dumb asking this question, but I've been using the Pharo > image mostly > on a Mac, with the FT2Plugin installed, so I've gotten spoiled by > having > nice fonts in the image. > > I've started wanting to use my Linux desktop (Ubuntu 8.10) too, but > there > doesn't appear to be a Linux FT2Plugin, so I seem to be stuck with > one font > only - Accuny. I haven't seen any other posts in this list related > to that, > so I'm assuming everyone's on a different platform, found a way to > fix this, > or likes Accuny. > > Having been spoiled by staring at Lucida Grande and Monaco, my eyes > aren't > too happy with Accuny as my only option. > > I've only recently begun using the Squeak VM, but compared to the > older > Squeak images, the Pharo image is worlds ahead. I'm looking forward > to > participating more, but this font issue is going to nag me. :) > > Thanks for any help, > > Robert > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Fonts-in-Linux-tp2427790p2427790.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 5, 2009

[Pharo-project] A few more ideas about preferences

by Igor Stasenko

It would be nice to have a message appear after package installation: 'A new preferences has been added , would you like to review them now' and if user answers yes - show him only those which is added. also, for unification - i think it is fine to treat an author settings (initials) as preference. Then if you submit any code - system could check if this preference is set and request it to be filled. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

March 5, 2009

[Pharo-project] Fonts in Linux

by Robert Roland

Hi all, I feel dumb asking this question, but I've been using the Pharo image mostly on a Mac, with the FT2Plugin installed, so I've gotten spoiled by having nice fonts in the image. I've started wanting to use my Linux desktop (Ubuntu 8.10) too, but there doesn't appear to be a Linux FT2Plugin, so I seem to be stuck with one font only - Accuny. I haven't seen any other posts in this list related to that, so I'm assuming everyone's on a different platform, found a way to fix this, or likes Accuny. Having been spoiled by staring at Lucida Grande and Monaco, my eyes aren't too happy with Accuny as my only option. I've only recently begun using the Squeak VM, but compared to the older Squeak images, the Pharo image is worlds ahead. I'm looking forward to participating more, but this font issue is going to nag me. :) Thanks for any help, Robert -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Fonts-in-Linux-tp2427790p2427790.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 5, 2009