March 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] can't load seaside 2.9a2

by Torsten Bergmann

Dont know if 2.9a2 is currently loading, but I use the following steps to get a more recent version for development: - update Pharo to latest core image (as of today #10246) - run "ScriptLoader loadSuperOB" to get a good OB browser, when you open a browser use the OBPackageBrowserAdapter as default browser - run "ScriptLoader loadSeaside29" to get the latest seaside stuff (currently this loads the seaside load order test), answer the questions - add a comanche adaptor on port 8080 in the appearing seaside console - point browser to http://localhost:8080/seaside This gives you a base and you can load more packages from Monticello browsers squeaksource.com/Seaside29 repository if required. Bye T. -- Computer Bild Tarifsieger! GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL fÃ¼r nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] {Spam?} Re: [Vm-dev] newDelta >0 failed in sqUnixMemory -- Was Re: Incompatibility between Pharo and Seasidehosting

by bryce＠kampjes.demon.co.uk

Schwab,Wilhelm K writes: > Bryce, > > I don't think the plugin locations (internal vs. external) matter. Having how it works documented somewhere easy to find is probably a lot more important than "fixing it." > > Time permitting, I will kick the tires tonight. My present gripe with Linux (perhaps just because my VM is too old) is poor coverage of the virtual keys (arrows, end, etc.). If you got that too, I'll be REALLY happy :) > > Aside from running Pharo, what do I need to do to test for you? Nothing really. I've no idea what virtual key support is like, I don't tend to use them. The Linux VM is my regular VM. Bryce

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] {Spam?} Re: [Vm-dev] newDelta >0 failed in sqUnixMemory -- Was Re: Incompatibility between Pharo and Seasidehosting

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Bryce, I don't think the plugin locations (internal vs. external) matter. Having how it works documented somewhere easy to find is probably a lot more important than "fixing it." Time permitting, I will kick the tires tonight. My present gripe with Linux (perhaps just because my VM is too old) is poor coverage of the virtual keys (arrows, end, etc.). If you got that too, I'll be REALLY happy :) Aside from running Pharo, what do I need to do to test for you? Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of bryce(a)kampjes.demon.co.uk Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:32 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: {Spam?} Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] newDelta >0 failed in sqUnixMemory -- Was Re: Incompatibility between Pharo and Seasidehosting Schwab,Wilhelm K writes: > Bryce, > > I am a natural victim for this, as I use both systems. What do I need to try? Is there a particularly simple/good/whatever way to install on Linux? I always seem to either stick something exactly where I want it, or configure and make, accepting all of the defaults. Since you seem to be somewhere in between (pre-built), I should play dumb and get some advise. > > On Linux, I use shell scripts to load the image I want. To avoid concerns over which VM is loading, would I give a full path to the VM also? I'd just unzip or untar the contents of the archives somewhere convenient. On Linux all the plug-ins are external so you need to move the entire directory tree. On Windows it's a single file as all plugins are built internally. I've followed the lead of the main VM maintainers for each platform for this. I can modify how these VMs are packaged if something else is more convenient. Bryce _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] newDelta >0 failed in sqUnixMemory -- Was Re: Incompatibility between Pharo and Seasidehosting

by bryce＠kampjes.demon.co.uk

Schwab,Wilhelm K writes: > Bryce, > > I am a natural victim for this, as I use both systems. What do I need to try? Is there a particularly simple/good/whatever way to install on Linux? I always seem to either stick something exactly where I want it, or configure and make, accepting all of the defaults. Since you seem to be somewhere in between (pre-built), I should play dumb and get some advise. > > On Linux, I use shell scripts to load the image I want. To avoid concerns over which VM is loading, would I give a full path to the VM also? I'd just unzip or untar the contents of the archives somewhere convenient. On Linux all the plug-ins are external so you need to move the entire directory tree. On Windows it's a single file as all plugins are built internally. I've followed the lead of the main VM maintainers for each platform for this. I can modify how these VMs are packaged if something else is more convenient. Bryce

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fonts in Linux

by bryce＠kampjes.demon.co.uk

Mariano Martinez Peck writes: > What is the exupery vm ? and which are the differences to to standard squeak > vm ? A standard VM with the extensions required to run Exupery, a JIT written in Smalltalk. You're not going to notice the Exupery extensions unless you also load the compiler into the image and start it running. Bryce

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fonts in Linux

by Mariano Martinez Peck

What is the exupery vm ? and which are the differences to to standard squeak vm ? On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:20 PM, <bryce(a)kampjes.demon.co.uk> wrote: > John M McIntosh writes: > > There is a FT2Plugin plugin buried in > > > > http://opensophie.org/ > > > > On 4-Mar-09, at 10:46 PM, Robert Roland wrote: > > > > Another way to get the FreeType plugin and also the sub-pixel > extensions for bltblit is to use the VM I announced above: > > http://ftp.squeak.org/Exupery/vms/exupery-vm-0.15-linux.tz > > Just untar that somewhere convinient then run the VM inside it. > > Bryce > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fonts in Linux

by bryce＠kampjes.demon.co.uk

John M McIntosh writes: > There is a FT2Plugin plugin buried in > > http://opensophie.org/ > > On 4-Mar-09, at 10:46 PM, Robert Roland wrote: > Another way to get the FreeType plugin and also the sub-pixel extensions for bltblit is to use the VM I announced above: http://ftp.squeak.org/Exupery/vms/exupery-vm-0.15-linux.tz Just untar that somewhere convinient then run the VM inside it. Bryce

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] can't load seaside 2.9a2

by MichaelA

I apoligize if this has been answered before. I have the latest core. I am trying to load Seaside. First I went to builder.seaside.st and built a script. I chose the core components, Seaside-Adaptors-Commanche and the Seaside examples. Next I filed this into Pharo. Next I filed in KomHttpServer-michael_rueger.45.mcz from the inbox. I started the Seaside server after giving it a port number. Is this procedure correct? I can't seem to get the Seaside main page up from browser. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/can%27t-load-seaside-2.9a2-tp2400760p2431665.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Preference Implementation collaboration ? (Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: [ANN] Preference pragmas)

by Alain Plantec

but is it about a quite old version. current one is attached. now we use minimal pragma declaration without arguments (<preference>). Cheers Alain CÃ©drick BÃ©ler a Ã©crit : > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> > Date: 2009/3/5 > Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: [ANN] Preference pragmas > To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list > <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > > > Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> http://n2.nabble.com/Preference-refactoring-again-tt2403814.html >> > > Oh. That is indeed quite similar. Two comments: > > * There is really no need to specify a #setter: in the pragma - the > name of the setter can be derived from the getter (read-only > preferences would be pointless, no? ;-) > > * There is really no need to specify the default explicitly - it can > be derived from the current value when the preference is registered. > > Other than that it looks good. It would be trivial to adjust my > version to use this pragma pattern but I would still prefer it if we > could collaborate on the implementation. > > Cheers, > - Andreas > > >> 2009/3/5 Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de>: >> >>> Edgar J. De Cleene wrote: >>> >>>> I trust you and your implementation should go to current .image ASAP. >>>> If at some point some guy of different secta come with a better code, we >>>> don >>>> reject for "heretic" =:) >>>> >>> To the contrary. Let's give collaboration a chance. It would be stupid if we >>> ended up with just enough difference to make us incompatible at such a >>> superficial level. At the very least we should be waiting for a week or two >>> to see if there's any reaction from the Pharo folks. Even if there is no >>> reaction we should try to make it compatible at the interface (pragma) >>> level. I'd be willing to do at least that but I'd need to know what their >>> pragma spec actually looks like (can anyone subscribed to Pharo post an >>> example or point me to ti?) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> - Andreas >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > > >

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] newDelta >0 failed in sqUnixMemory -- Was Re: Incompatibility between Pharo and Seasidehosting

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Bryce, I am a natural victim for this, as I use both systems. What do I need to try? Is there a particularly simple/good/whatever way to install on Linux? I always seem to either stick something exactly where I want it, or configure and make, accepting all of the defaults. Since you seem to be somewhere in between (pre-built), I should play dumb and get some advise. On Linux, I use shell scripts to load the image I want. To avoid concerns over which VM is loading, would I give a full path to the VM also? Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of bryce(a)kampjes.demon.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 3:39 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] newDelta >0 failed in sqUnixMemory -- Was Re: Incompatibility between Pharo and Seasidehosting StÃ©phane Ducasse writes: > creating a unix vm. Here's a Unix VM built with an up to date VMMaker and a Windows VM: http://ftp.squeak.org/Exupery/vms/exupery-vm-0.15-linux.tz http://ftp.squeak.org/Exupery/vms/exupery-vm-0.15-win32.zip Both have the closure bytecodes and the FreeType bitblit extensions. The Linux VM includes the FreeType plugin, the Windows VM doesn't. Bryce _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 5, 2009