March 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] {Spam?} Re: [Vm-dev] newDelta >0 failed in sqUnixMemory -- Was Re: Incompatibility between Pharo and Seasidehosting

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Bryce, The vm appears to work on Linux. The machine I am using is not the fastest in the world (1.8G,500M), but it was handy when the old one went on to its reward. The virtual keys are better in this vm; home and end work, which is a nice start. The numeric pad delete does not work and a couple of the other (forget what they are called) are non-mapped or do weird things. I'll see what I can find on how to handle them. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Schwab,Wilhelm K Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:32 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] {Spam?} Re: [Vm-dev] newDelta >0 failed in sqUnixMemory -- Was Re: Incompatibility between Pharo and Seasidehosting Bryce, The v-keys are well-supported in the Windows VM, and are heavily entrenched in my typing skills. If it's not already improved, I will try to find something on how to process them. IIRC, Windows sends separate messages for them, so it could easily be different on Linux. Is there a chance that Sophie would contain relevant changes? Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of bryce(a)kampjes.demon.co.uk Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:19 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] {Spam?} Re: [Vm-dev] newDelta >0 failed in sqUnixMemory -- Was Re: Incompatibility between Pharo and Seasidehosting Schwab,Wilhelm K writes: > Bryce, > > I don't think the plugin locations (internal vs. external) matter. Having how it works documented somewhere easy to find is probably a lot more important than "fixing it." > > Time permitting, I will kick the tires tonight. My present gripe with Linux (perhaps just because my VM is too old) is poor coverage of the virtual keys (arrows, end, etc.). If you got that too, I'll be REALLY happy :) > > Aside from running Pharo, what do I need to do to test for you? Nothing really. I've no idea what virtual key support is like, I don't tend to use them. The Linux VM is my regular VM. Bryce _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] my .changes are big what to do?

by Rob Rothwell

I know I have had some rather large changes files after loading lots of things, unloading them, trying again, etc... If you wait too long, Squeak WILL warn you that you need to take action! Smalltalk condenseChanges usually works for me... Rob On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Sebastian Sastre <ssastre(a)seaswork.com>wrote: > hi there, > after porting the app and all my .changes file of that image is about 28MB > I've heard that squeak can't have a changes file bigger than about 32. What > truth in that? what measures should I take? > thanks > sebastian > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fonts in Linux

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Ahh okok. Thanks! Good to know about the project. Cheers, Mariano On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:29 PM, <bryce(a)kampjes.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Mariano Martinez Peck writes: > > What is the exupery vm ? and which are the differences to to standard > squeak > > vm ? > > A standard VM with the extensions required to run Exupery, a JIT > written in Smalltalk. You're not going to notice the Exupery > extensions unless you also load the compiler into the image and > start it running. > > Bryce > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 6, 2009

[Pharo-project] my .changes are big what to do?

by Sebastian Sastre

hi there, after porting the app and all my .changes file of that image is about 28MB I've heard that squeak can't have a changes file bigger than about 32. What truth in that? what measures should I take? thanks sebastian

March 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] OTChasingInspector preview

by Dale Henrichs

----- "Dale Henrichs" <dale.henrichs(a)gemstone.com> wrote: | I made a blood sacrifice to the OB gods yesterday and they led me to | an acceptable (initial) implementation of a chasing inspector:) | | The code is in OB-Tools-dkh.66 (make sure you've loaded | OmniBrowser-dr.442 as well). It'll need a couple more sacrifices to | the OB gods before it's really ready (primarily reducing the text pane | screen real estate), but you can take it for a spin, if you're | interested: | | OTChasingInspector openOn: { | #key->('Smalltalk'->Smalltalk). | Dictionary with: #blue->'1' with: #green->'2' }. | | I'll be using it in GLASS, but if there's interest in a Pharo/Squeak | version I'll make sure to keep it up to snuff. Use OB-Tools-dkh.72, for a better preview ... switches work correctly, doitContext is correct, and the relative pane sizes adjusted...'chase' menu item in inspector will bring up a chasing inspector, added 'explore' and several browsing methods to the inspector... I want to use this for a couple more days before turning it loose, but feedback is welcomed. Dale

March 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Connector replacement packages for Pharo

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Bryce, I suggest you to use Mondrian. http://www.squeaksource.com/Mondrian.html Arrowed edges does not properly work for now. But it is on my todo list. If you have an example of a diagram you're interested in... Cheers, Alexandre On 5 Mar 2009, at 22:47, <bryce(a)kampjes.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > Connectors no longer loads into Pharo, it's heavily tied into > eToys. Are there any maintained package that provide diagram > creation? All I'm trying to do is draw a diagram with boxes > and arrows connecting them to represent control flow graphs. > > Bryce > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Connector replacement packages for Pharo

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

Mondrian may help here... There's 2 implementation right now... one in squeaksource, in progress and one in source.lukas-renggli.ch. The latter is more completed but different from the original vw version. hth, 2009/3/5 <bryce(a)kampjes.demon.co.uk>: > > Connectors no longer loads into Pharo, it's heavily tied into > eToys. Are there any maintained package that provide diagram > creation? All I'm trying to do is draw a diagram with boxes > and arrows connecting them to represent control flow graphs. > > Bryce > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- CÃ©drick

March 5, 2009

[Pharo-project] Connector replacement packages for Pharo

by bryce＠kampjes.demon.co.uk

Connectors no longer loads into Pharo, it's heavily tied into eToys. Are there any maintained package that provide diagram creation? All I'm trying to do is draw a diagram with boxes and arrows connecting them to represent control flow graphs. Bryce

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] {Spam?} Re: [Vm-dev] newDelta >0 failed in sqUnixMemory -- Was Re: Incompatibility between Pharo and Seasidehosting

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Bryce, The v-keys are well-supported in the Windows VM, and are heavily entrenched in my typing skills. If it's not already improved, I will try to find something on how to process them. IIRC, Windows sends separate messages for them, so it could easily be different on Linux. Is there a chance that Sophie would contain relevant changes? Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of bryce(a)kampjes.demon.co.uk Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:19 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] {Spam?} Re: [Vm-dev] newDelta >0 failed in sqUnixMemory -- Was Re: Incompatibility between Pharo and Seasidehosting Schwab,Wilhelm K writes: > Bryce, > > I don't think the plugin locations (internal vs. external) matter. Having how it works documented somewhere easy to find is probably a lot more important than "fixing it." > > Time permitting, I will kick the tires tonight. My present gripe with Linux (perhaps just because my VM is too old) is poor coverage of the virtual keys (arrows, end, etc.). If you got that too, I'll be REALLY happy :) > > Aside from running Pharo, what do I need to do to test for you? Nothing really. I've no idea what virtual key support is like, I don't tend to use them. The Linux VM is my regular VM. Bryce _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] {Spam?} Re: [Vm-dev] newDelta >0 failed in sqUnixMemory -- Was Re: Incompatibility between Pharo and Seasidehosting

by bryce＠kampjes.demon.co.uk

Schwab,Wilhelm K writes: > Bryce, > > I don't think the plugin locations (internal vs. external) matter. Having how it works documented somewhere easy to find is probably a lot more important than "fixing it." > > Time permitting, I will kick the tires tonight. My present gripe with Linux (perhaps just because my VM is too old) is poor coverage of the virtual keys (arrows, end, etc.). If you got that too, I'll be REALLY happy :) > > Aside from running Pharo, what do I need to do to test for you? The two things that would be helpful are: * Play with them a bit and feedback on what's most needed * Get them working the write the documentation on how to use them and put it somewhere easy to find. ;-) My suspicion is the most needed feature will be the free type plugin for Windows. Bryce

March 5, 2009