March 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] A point a.k.a excuse to you

by Michael Roberts

Keith, your email implies that you believe Pharo should be backwards compatible at some level with Squeak. Part of the Pharo manifesto is not to be compatible. So if you want to write code or have apis that work in a backwards direction from Pharo to Squeak, that's great. I don't believe it's a goal for Pharo though. The pharo process doesn't need a rethink at all as far as I'm concerned. thanks, Mike

March 2, 2009

[Pharo-project] MIMEDocument issue

by Brian Brown

Here is some nice recursion that kills my pharo image.... (updated to 10246) Here are three MIMEDocument methods: mimeType ^self type type "Deprecated. Use contentType instead." ^ self contentType contentType ^self mimeType asString

March 2, 2009

[Pharo-project] VMs and Closures

by bryce＠kampjes.demon.co.uk

I've built both a Linux and Windows VM with the latest closure bytecodes. They'll both be available in the next few days. Both have the FreeType bitblit changes but I didn't build the FreeType plugin for Windows. Building the FreeType dev libraries will wait until next time. What's going on with closure support? Bryce P.S. Yes, this means I'm preparing for an Exupery release

March 2, 2009

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 10246

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

HI guys I declared victory over my new sink :) Now it is fixed here are some fixes and enh integrated please check if this is ok - Announcement latest version 13 - Polymorph toolbuilder fix 6 - Polymorph widgets 55 Fix for button for currently selected window in tasklist not being differentiated when using Watery 2 theme. - Scriptloader loadOBAlpha (damien) - Issue 619: Extend MessageTally to observe all processes - Issue 603: fix for NewParser parsability Stef

March 2, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Preference refactoring again

by Igor Stasenko

Looks nice (especially integration with notifications). Just a single straw hat man question: - how you dealing with a preferences which declared multiple times under the same name: MyAlphaClass class>>enabled <preference: 'enabled' type: #Boolean set: #setEnabled: default: #false description: 'Alpha thingy enabled'> MyBetaClass class>>enabled <preference: 'enabled' type: #Boolean set: #setEnabled: default: #false description: 'Beta thingy enabled'> it also seem would be nice to have a preference category name(s) 2009/3/2 Alain Plantec <alain.plantec(a)free.fr>: > Matthew Fulmer a Ã©crit : >> Did anybody ever notice my suggestion to use Magritte for >> Preferences? >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-February/005489.h… >> >> > Hi Matthew, > one should have answer something to you. sorry. > First I know what magritte is but I've never tried it so I can't give an > opinion if it is desirable, possible... > But magritte is not a part of Pharo-core. Is it planned to include it ? > What I'm trying to do (with a big help from Gary) is to implement a > proposition so people can > make their own opinion and say if it is ok or not. > I will post a new one soon (I hope), maybe you can have a look and > propose something Â with Magritte. > Cheers > alain > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

March 2, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Preference refactoring again

by Alain Plantec

Matthew Fulmer a Ã©crit : > Did anybody ever notice my suggestion to use Magritte for > Preferences? > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-February/005489.h… > > Hi Matthew, one should have answer something to you. sorry. First I know what magritte is but I've never tried it so I can't give an opinion if it is desirable, possible... But magritte is not a part of Pharo-core. Is it planned to include it ? What I'm trying to do (with a big help from Gary) is to implement a proposition so people can make their own opinion and say if it is ok or not. I will post a new one soon (I hope), maybe you can have a look and propose something with Magritte. Cheers alain

March 2, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] MIMEdatabase fix?

by Philippe Marschall

Michael Rueger wrote: > Philippe Marschall wrote: >> StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> I have problems to understand why this would be not reasonable that >>> people load a give kom version for seaside on squeak >>> and one for seaside on pharo. >> Loading is one thing. What bothers we more is the maintenance situation. >> Let's face it, there are far too resources behind something as important >> as Kom. Making a fork of it cuts these resources in half. > > Hmm, I think most of the discussion is simply a misunderstanding, I'm > not forking anything. > > With my changes to Pharo (which of course first need to be integrated), > the changed (not forked!) version of Kom and the few changes for Seaside > (which need to be integrated) there is no need for a fork!!! > > Those versions should work on both Squeak and Pharo. Very well then. Can you contact Giovanni to have your changes integrated at: http://www.squeaksource.com/KomHttpServer.html > It's not monkey patching, none of the packages touch other stuff any > more than they did before. I just changed Kom so its monkey patching now > works on both Seaside and Pharo. > > And that's where I need you help testing. I did a short test with Seaside 2.8 and Squeak 3.9 and it seems to work. Cheers Philippe

March 2, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] loadOBApha

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I probably thought that I integrated it I will try to do an update but I have to fix a sink for our kitchen now. Stef On Mar 2, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Alexandre Bergel > <Alexandre.Bergel(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> It seems that the RB is not loaded with loadOBAlpha >> >> Anything changed with the following universe definition? > > I fixed #loadOBAlpha, but it went to PharoTreatedInbox instead of > going to Pharo, I don't know why. > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 2, 2009

[Pharo-project] Universes question

by Brian Brown

Hello all, I just downloaded pharo0.1-10243dev09.02.3 from the website and updated to the latest. I expected to see the Universe browser in the menus, but it isn't there, So I checked the image, and Universes is not there. I thought the Universes code was in the dev image.... what am I missing? Regards, - Brian

March 2, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Website

by Alexandre Bergel

Good! But I think that the download section on the website needs to be a bit more explicit. Something like maybe: Step 1: choose and download the Virtual Machine (VM) Step 2: download the SqueakV39.sources file Step 3: download either Pharo or Pharo-core. Step 4: drag and drop the .image file on the VM. Cheers, Alexandre On 2 Mar 2009, at 17:02, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Hi Alex, > > I copied the links over to the web page (http://www.pharo-project.org/download > ). I suggest that we remove them on the wiki and link to that page > (except for the links that are specific to the development of Pharo, > that is, the "Pharo from scratch" links), so that we don't need to > maintain two sets of links. > > Cheers, > Adrian > > On Mar 2, 2009, at 13:10 , Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> The download section of the website is rather incomplete. >> >>> http://www.pharo-project.org/download >> >> I added a while ago a couple of sentences in the download section on >> the google website. Maybe the pharo-project.org web administrator >> could cut&paste it. I could accessory do it, however I do not have an >> access to the cmsbox. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

March 2, 2009