February 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] Swazoo 2.2beta3 with class variable patch

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Hello, I just released new beta of Swazoo which has a problem with Singleton class variable solved. Note also that two classes are renamed: Site to SwazooSite and Resource to SwazooResource. I recommend to rename them manually before loading this new beta over. Just in case. New beta is published to http://www.swazoosource.com/Swazoo.html . This beta is the last before final 2.2. release. If it will prove reliable it will be released in few day. Best regards Janko -- Janko MivÅ¡ek AIDA/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

Feb. 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

by Michael Rueger

Igor Stasenko wrote: > what is not very convenient is that copy/paste (as well as the rest of > keyboard shortcuts ) is not working when keyboard layout not english. You mean you are typing the equivalent of alt-c etc on the Russian keyboard/layout? Or how do the ASCII short cuts map? Didn't someone create a mapping that would work? Michael

Feb. 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

by Michael Rueger

Michael Rueger wrote: > Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >> Does not work here. >> >> My system is LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 >> >> My keyboard keying is us_intl, (accented character are composed), this >> set up is used to work with standard pharo and ecoding to latin1 > > In the workspace when I type in 'e, I get e? I simply get 'e > Are you using ubuntu? I have a hard time setting up the keyboard for > compositing. ok, figured it out, but the VM seems to ignore it or the compositing sequence gets lost somewhere else... Michael

Feb. 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

by Michael Rueger

John M McIntosh wrote: > Well there are a number of questions here > > (a) by default the macintosh squeak VM is shipped setup for macintosh > encoding of file names. > I know other vertical app suppliers have set that to UTF8. However I'm > wondering if Pharo is > UTF8 aware or uses the macintosh subset thus not supporting all valid > file names? > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=513 UTF-8, at least with the unicode changes I'm currently working on. Where is this set? > (b) The macintosh VM always supplies slot six with unicode data, the > unix vm, check with your support person? It's the Mac VM from Squeak.org. If you put a transcript show of the event buffer into the handleKeyboard logic you can see that slot six is nil on meta keys. > > (c) The clipboard logic in the macintosh VM is using the 1984 > clipboard logic. > We would need to bring in the extended clipboard support from Sophie > to enable > nice things like UTF-16 and ability to move pictures on the clipboard. > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=514 Oh, I thought the new Mac VMs supported Unicode in the clipboard logic as the other VMs now do. How much effort would that be to add UTF-x support to the current clipboard logic? Michael

Feb. 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

by John M McIntosh

Well there are a number of questions here (a) by default the macintosh squeak VM is shipped setup for macintosh encoding of file names. I know other vertical app suppliers have set that to UTF8. However I'm wondering if Pharo is UTF8 aware or uses the macintosh subset thus not supporting all valid file names? http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=513 (b) The macintosh VM always supplies slot six with unicode data, the unix vm, check with your support person? (c) The clipboard logic in the macintosh VM is using the 1984 clipboard logic. We would need to bring in the extended clipboard support from Sophie to enable nice things like UTF-16 and ability to move pictures on the clipboard. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=514 On 9-Feb-09, at 7:30 AM, Michael Rueger wrote: > Lukas Renggli wrote: >>> It is the pharo one click with a modified (slightly outdated) >>> image and >>> an updated Unix VM. >> >> The one-click thing does not work on my Mac, nothing happens. I can >> open the image with another VM though. >> >> Is this a special VM that comes with the one-click image? I might >> miss >> the context. > > I simply took the one click I had downloaded, so I wonder if it ever > worked on Mac? > > According to the system log it always tries to launch "squeak", even > though I changed the entry to point to the newer VM from the > Squeak.org > download. > >> Pressing any key-combination with the apple-key raises an error >> "MessageNotUnderstood UndefinedObject>>#<". > > It seems that slot six is nil when any modifier is pressed? John? > >> Pasting most of the texts from this website >> <http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/utf8.html> raises an error: "Invalid >> utf8 input detected". > > Hmm, is the clipboard encoding UTF-16 on Mac? Thought it was UTF-8... > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- = = = ======================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com = = = ========================================================================

Feb. 9, 2009

[Pharo-project] Tests are back to dark red :(

by Adrian Lienhard

I run all the tests in #10231: 2910 run, 23 failures, 33 errors Many of the errors and failures are from PCCByLiteralsTest. Was this introduced recently? Are these tests supposed to run green? Please help to improve the test results. Some time ago we managed to get down to only 5 or so failures, now we are back at 56 errors and failures! Cheers, Adrian PS: there are also Undeclared references and the tests don't run through because a method was deprecated that is still called. ___________________ http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/

Feb. 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Plugin organization

by Adrian Lienhard

Hi Stef, On Feb 7, 2009, at 14:40 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > I would like to use the seaside convention so is it ok for you? > Then I will proceed and rename eveyrthing. What would be the resulting packages? I.e., how would you map the Top and Rest parts to the existing structure we have? I think that decision should be well considered as it has quite some impact (e.g., on the number of class categories and packages). I discussed with Lukas about the Seaside packaging scheme documented at http://code.google.com/p/seaside/wiki/PackageNaming The conclusion was that for Pharo the top level and the Platform level may not make much sense and could be left out. Then we would have a scheme like (Purpose-)Rest where Purpose = Tests, Examples, .. Rest = Kernel, Collections, Network, ... Note that this is the *package* structure (what you see in MC), not the class category structure. The latter could be more fine grained at the lower level (e.g., Tools-Debugger, Tools-Inspector, ... as it is structured now). The consequence would be that we have packages like Kernel Collections Tools ... Tests-Kernel Tests-Collections Tests-Tools I'm not convinced that this is the right structure, though, as we end up with lots of Test-xyz packages. As an alternative, I can imagine the package scheme Top-Rest where we have a very coarse grained Top level. For instance, we would have the following Top items: Kernel Graphics Libraries Tools Tests This means, we would have packages like Kernel-Numbers Kernel-Traits Kernel-Compiler ... Libraries-Collections Libraries-Regex Libraries-Network ... Tests-Kernel Tests-Libraries ... I'm curious if there are other ideas around. One way or the other, we need to clean this up. Right now it is a mess. E.g., there is a top level package MethodFinder, while all other tools are in the Tools package. Cheers, Adrian > > > stef > > On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:51 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> I like the seaside organization >> >> Top-(Purpose-)(Platform-)Rest >> >> * Seaside-Canvas contains he canvas implementation. >> * Seaside-Squeak-Canvas contains the platform specific code of >> the canvas implementation. >> * Seaside-Examples-Canvas contains example code showing off the >> canvas implementation. >> * Seaside-Tests-Canvas contains the tests for the canvas >> implementation. >> * Seaside-Tests-Squeak-Canvas contains the platform specific >> tests of the canvas implementation. >> >> On Jan 30, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jan 30, 2009, at 15:33 , Michael Rueger wrote: >>> >>>> StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> so what are the organizations we can use? >>>>> Ideally I would like to have the test associated with their >>>>> packages. >>>>> >>>>> XXX >>>>> XXXTests >>>> >>>> The problem with that naming scheme is that then the tests would >>>> always >>>> be loaded together with their tests because of the simple string >>>> matching Monticello does. >>>> Which isn't something you want when doing application/runtime >>>> builds. >>>> >>>> That's why I proposed the Plugin-* and Tests-* naming schemes. >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> Adrian >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

by Michael Rueger

Chris Kassopulo wrote: > On linux pasting Ã¤ or Ã© from that same webpage gives > "Error: Invalid utf8 input detected" That's probably due to the left-over encoding setting in Pharo.sh. The encoding line needs to be removed. > How do I input those characters from the keyboard? You need to switch to a different keyboard layout. Compositing should also work, but I currently don't know how to activate that either ;-) Michael

Feb. 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

by Michael Rueger

Lukas Renggli wrote: >> It is the pharo one click with a modified (slightly outdated) image and >> an updated Unix VM. > > The one-click thing does not work on my Mac, nothing happens. I can > open the image with another VM though. > > Is this a special VM that comes with the one-click image? I might miss > the context. I simply took the one click I had downloaded, so I wonder if it ever worked on Mac? According to the system log it always tries to launch "squeak", even though I changed the entry to point to the newer VM from the Squeak.org download. > Pressing any key-combination with the apple-key raises an error > "MessageNotUnderstood UndefinedObject>>#<". It seems that slot six is nil when any modifier is pressed? John? > Pasting most of the texts from this website > <http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/utf8.html> raises an error: "Invalid > utf8 input detected". Hmm, is the clipboard encoding UTF-16 on Mac? Thought it was UTF-8... Michael

Feb. 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] a question about method browsers in pharo

by David RÃ¶thlisberger

Hi Oscar, > If I enable halos and explore the morphs, I see that the first one has > as its model an OBImplementorsBrowser, and the second an > OBMethodListBrowser. Why not simply use the latter? I searched for > references to both, but did not immediately see how to change the > behaviour on <cmd>-m. I think it is the other way around: In the workspace you get the OBMethodListBrowser and in the class browser the OBImplementorsBrowser? The reason for this is that the workspace passes the request to the SystemNavigation class. After this class has gathered the set of messages to display, it passes this set to a method opening the so called message set browser which can only reason about a set of methods, not about whether these are senders or implementors. That's why we get a generic message list browser there but a dedicated implementors browser in OB. So we need to change SystemNavigation to achieve the same result in both scenarios. I can propose a change set. David

Feb. 9, 2009