February 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Distributed versioning ... MonticelloHub?

by Ramon Leon

> Monticello actually? Are there any plans for the Pharo > Project to create > some sort of PharoHub or MonticelloHub (taking the example of > GitHub here) > where everyone can browse through available repositories and > their packages? > Anyhow, maybe I am jumping ahead a bit since the first goal is getting > towards the big Pharo one point O, but I just wanted to see what other > people's thoughts are o this? > You named everything but the thing you're looking for. We have squeaksource.com, which is kind of like github, a place to share Monticello packages. Ramon Leon http://onsmalltalk.com

Feb. 13, 2009

[Pharo-project] Distributed versioning ... MonticelloHub?

by Geert

At first it usually takes some time to get one's head around the Smalltalk way of working in a live image. The next question is usually something around, how can I make this work in a team environment, what about version control, how can I share and/or re-use external packages/classes? After some research there appears to be something called: - SqueakMap: an out-dated collection of publicly shared packages? - Package Universe: an attempt to manage dependency of SqueakMap packages? - Monticello: a nifty distributed package version control system. It seems to me that the concept of a distributed repository system and the implementation of Monticello was ahead of its time in 2003 and makes perfect sense given the fact that everyone is working in their own image ... or repository if you will. How does the now extremely popular Git compare to Monticello actually? Are there any plans for the Pharo Project to create some sort of PharoHub or MonticelloHub (taking the example of GitHub here) where everyone can browse through available repositories and their packages? Anyhow, maybe I am jumping ahead a bit since the first goal is getting towards the big Pharo one point O, but I just wanted to see what other people's thoughts are o this? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Distributed-versioning-...-MonticelloHub--tp2319149p23… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 13, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Smalltalk now also on Nabble

by Geert

Maybe Nabble should be added on the " http://pharo-project.org/community pharo-project.org/community " page as an alternative interface which allows users to browse and search archived emails in an online forum and where members can post and reply to the mailing list? Thanks ! Stef -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Pharo-Smalltalk-now-also-on-Nabble-tp2311636p2318555.h… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 12, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Workspace API

by Keith Hodges

Lukas Renggli wrote: >> When I took up the role of maintaining MC1.5, I did so with the express >> purpose of integrating all of the MC forks for the benefit of the whole >> community. If I had known that this idea was conceptually a waste of >> time then I wouldn't have bothered. I did it because I wanted overrides >> to actually work, and because I thought people would be enthusiastic for >> it to actually work. How on earth do you do anything practical with MC1? >> It drove me nuts. >> > > I have a hard time to trust a system that references 6 undefined > variables and that sends twice as many undefined messages (see > attached screenshot). > > Well spotted, I wouldn't know about that, because I don't use Lint. Unfortunately I don't have time to fix it until April 7th. Keith

Feb. 12, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

by Michael Rueger

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:19 PM, John M McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> wrote: >> How much would it take to have the primitive return the normalized UTF-8 >> string directly? > Er, case of beer? What kind? :-) Duckstein? > Seriously tho you need to define if the UTF8 you expect squeak to work with > is precomposed and decomposed Unicode. I would say precomposed, basically what is returned by the extended clipboard logic. > need a frame work (ala sophie) to front the existing logic, that and the > windows VM support. Windows already returns UTF-8 in the default Squeak clipboard, as does Linux. michael

Feb. 12, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] fixed problems

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Cool! I like the way you cut into the jungle :). It is good to have some mercenaries :) On Feb 12, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: > StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : >> Alain can you check? >> The changeset code should be in. >> > yep! > all is ok :) > thanks >> Stef >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 12, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] fixed problems

by Alain Plantec

StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > Alain can you check? > The changeset code should be in. > yep! all is ok :) thanks > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >

Feb. 12, 2009

[Pharo-project] [ANN] fixed problems

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Alain can you check? The changeset code should be in. Stef

Feb. 12, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Workspace API

by Keith Hodges

> I honestly do not understand what LPF means. It is probably because I > am not a native speaker. > > http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/228650.html Keith

Feb. 12, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

by John M McIntosh

On 12-Feb-09, at 5:12 AM, Michael Rueger wrote: > John M McIntosh wrote: >> No, it's just more smalltalk coding, the utf8-plain-text bytes need >> to be translated into bytes according to > > Somewhere in the call chain it is finally FFI calls as you > illustrate below. > > How much would it take to have the primitive return the normalized > UTF-8 string directly? > > Michael Er, case of beer? Seriously tho you need to define if the UTF8 you expect squeak to work with is precomposed and decomposed Unicode. Then we can alter the plugin, also having a test case would be helpful, move data into squeak, move data out of squeak. Well and enabling the ability to copy/paste PNG or JPEG would be helpful, again the plugin can help with this, but you'll need a frame work (ala sophie) to front the existing logic, that and the windows VM support. -- = = = ======================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com = = = ========================================================================

Feb. 12, 2009