February 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Towards Pharo 1.0

by Marcus Denker

On 23.02.2009, at 20:45, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Hi all, > > Marcus, Stef and I have been meeting today and we discussed how to > proceed for the first release (version 1.0). One note to everyone who submitted a bugreport... no, note at the end of the mail. First a story. In Squeak, people submitted lots of improvements and bugs, first with the funky [TAGS] to the list, later via the bugtracker. But then, a curious thing happened: they never, ever, looked at that bug-report again. Maybe the image side code changed, and the submission needed a trivial change so that the changeset could be loaded. Or there was some question posted by a harvester. Or after 1000 applied changesets, there might be the possibility that a bug is already fixed. Kind of obvious, that the submitter of a report can help a lot in these situations. But they don't. I have *no clue* why. In the end, I closed lots (really lots!) of entries in Squeak over the years after a question to the original submitter was not anwered after 1 year(!) of waiting. I really wonder what the problem was... the submitter cared a lot when submitting the bug or improvement in the first place. But then, just answering a question or re-do a changeset (maybe 30min of work for the original author) was too much... a mystery. Thus: As we are nearing 1.0, I kindly ask everyone who submitted something to look at the report. Maybe you can make it easier to have it integrated? e.g. exactly describing the action needed is better than making it a riddle (some people think that it is a sign of intelligence to not give the solution to a problem after describing the cause). A changeset (or mcz) is the best. Even for a one-line triviality. You reported a bug half a year ago? Try to recreate it and add a comment: This is still a problem in #10243 and the way I re-created the problem is this. In the end, the question is: If you don't care, why should we? Marcus - Marcus Denker -- denker(a)acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de

Feb. 23, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Towards Pharo 1.0

by Michael Rueger

Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Hi all, > > Marcus, Stef and I have been meeting today and we discussed how to > proceed for the first release (version 1.0). On the issue tracker we > tagged issues that we think should be fixed with "milestone-1.0". See > the following list: > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?q=milestone:1.0 > > If we missed something critical, please let us know. I would vote for the full unicode support. I'm currently battling with ParagraphEditor and friends (don't ask...), but I think we are getting there. I will look at Andreas fixes in that area and integrate them into my changes as well. Michael

Feb. 23, 2009

[Pharo-project] Towards Pharo 1.0

by Adrian Lienhard

Hi all, Marcus, Stef and I have been meeting today and we discussed how to proceed for the first release (version 1.0). On the issue tracker we tagged issues that we think should be fixed with "milestone-1.0". See the following list: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?q=milestone:1.0 If we missed something critical, please let us know. Furthermore, we updated the high-level milestones list that is on the wiki (http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Milestones) The most notable change is that we removed Alien FFI and moved it to milestone 1.1. FUNCTIONAL REQUIREMENTS â¢ (x) Integrate Polymorph â¢ (x) Integrate TrueType? â¢ (x) Refactor Traits API â¢ ( ) default in-image font(s) â¢ ( ) Main EToys removal, reorganize MorphicExtras?- â¢ ( ) Package management system with stable and unstable distributions â¢ ( ) Remove SqueakMap? and Installer from core NON-FUNCTIONAL REQUIREMENTS â¢ (x) First consistent version of the website â¢ ( ) All tests green â¢ ( ) Clean up package and class category organization â¢ ( ) License clean (check OLPC changes) â¢ ( ) Pharo one-click image (including developer tools, GettingStarted information, screenshots, ...) â¢ ( ) New sources file INFRASTRUCTURE â¢ (x) Increase efficiency of producing new updates â¢ ( ) Prepare second update stream to maintain released version Cheers, Adrian ___________________ http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/

Feb. 23, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Font for Pharo

by Hilaire Fernandes

Can it be related to a problem I saw recently with text string inappropriately clipped toward the end (string length calculus seems too short of 1 or 2 pixels)? I can see it in last release when using deja vue font for example. It does not show up in #194 however. Hilaire 2009/2/23 Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: > On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 20:18 +0200, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> 2009/2/23 Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: >> > On linux it doesn't look very good. There is something weird >> > with the font height and position. Well, it looks a lot better >> > in pharo than in gnome :) >> > >> seems like you changed font after opening a browser window. And it >> using old font height to calculate line heights. >> > If I would have changed the font after opening the window I couldn't > see the new font. The fonts are only applied on opening a window. > You can see it in the workspace and the menu two. There is enough > space through the big line height. In the class browser it is somehow > cut off. > > Norbert > > >> >> > screenshot is attached. >> > >> > Norbert >> > >> > On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 13:33 +0100, JÃ©rÃ´me wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I found the Font "Andika Basic"[2] which is an Open Source and Free- >> >> Software[1] Unicode-ready font made by the same people who brought us >> >> Gentium, the typeface for the nations. I suggest using Andika as the >> >> Pharo CI Font since it can be distributed along with Pharo and looks a >> >> little bit like Lucida Grande, the Mac-UI-font, but at the same time >> >> is more friendly and better readable[3]. According to the Andika >> >> Website, Andika is Swahili, which is spoken widely in southeastern >> >> regions of the African continent, and means "Write!". >> >> >> >> Have a look: >> >> [2] http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=Andika >> >> [3] http://minusfreun.de/blog/uploads/Pharo.png >> >> >> >> JÃ©rÃ´me >> >> >> >> [1] http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

Feb. 23, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Font for Pharo

by Norbert Hartl

On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 20:18 +0200, Igor Stasenko wrote: > 2009/2/23 Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: > > On linux it doesn't look very good. There is something weird > > with the font height and position. Well, it looks a lot better > > in pharo than in gnome :) > > > seems like you changed font after opening a browser window. And it > using old font height to calculate line heights. > If I would have changed the font after opening the window I couldn't see the new font. The fonts are only applied on opening a window. You can see it in the workspace and the menu two. There is enough space through the big line height. In the class browser it is somehow cut off. Norbert > > > screenshot is attached. > > > > Norbert > > > > On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 13:33 +0100, JÃ©rÃ´me wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I found the Font "Andika Basic"[2] which is an Open Source and Free- > >> Software[1] Unicode-ready font made by the same people who brought us > >> Gentium, the typeface for the nations. I suggest using Andika as the > >> Pharo CI Font since it can be distributed along with Pharo and looks a > >> little bit like Lucida Grande, the Mac-UI-font, but at the same time > >> is more friendly and better readable[3]. According to the Andika > >> Website, Andika is Swahili, which is spoken widely in southeastern > >> regions of the African continent, and means "Write!". > >> > >> Have a look: > >> [2] http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=Andika > >> [3] http://minusfreun.de/blog/uploads/Pharo.png > >> > >> JÃ©rÃ´me > >> > >> [1] http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 23, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Font for Pharo

by Igor Stasenko

2009/2/23 Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: > On linux it doesn't look very good. There is something weird > with the font height and position. Well, it looks a lot better > in pharo than in gnome :) > seems like you changed font after opening a browser window. And it using old font height to calculate line heights. > screenshot is attached. > > Norbert > > On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 13:33 +0100, JÃ©rÃ´me wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I found the Font "Andika Basic"[2] which is an Open Source and Free- >> Software[1] Unicode-ready font made by the same people who brought us >> Gentium, the typeface for the nations. I suggest using Andika as the >> Pharo CI Font since it can be distributed along with Pharo and looks a >> little bit like Lucida Grande, the Mac-UI-font, but at the same time >> is more friendly and better readable[3]. According to the Andika >> Website, Andika is Swahili, which is spoken widely in southeastern >> regions of the African continent, and means "Write!". >> >> Have a look: >> [2] http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=Andika >> [3] http://minusfreun.de/blog/uploads/Pharo.png >> >> JÃ©rÃ´me >> >> [1] http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Feb. 23, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Font for Pharo

by Norbert Hartl

On linux it doesn't look very good. There is something weird with the font height and position. Well, it looks a lot better in pharo than in gnome :) screenshot is attached. Norbert On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 13:33 +0100, JÃ©rÃ´me wrote: > Hi, > > I found the Font "Andika Basic"[2] which is an Open Source and Free- > Software[1] Unicode-ready font made by the same people who brought us > Gentium, the typeface for the nations. I suggest using Andika as the > Pharo CI Font since it can be distributed along with Pharo and looks a > little bit like Lucida Grande, the Mac-UI-font, but at the same time > is more friendly and better readable[3]. According to the Andika > Website, Andika is Swahili, which is spoken widely in southeastern > regions of the African continent, and means "Write!". > > Have a look: > [2] http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=Andika > [3] http://minusfreun.de/blog/uploads/Pharo.png > > JÃ©rÃ´me > > [1] http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 23, 2009

[Pharo-project] [update] #10243

by Marcus Denker

#10243 ------ Issue 600: remove non-ascii from String>> asCharacter, recompile PluggableTextMorph>>drawOn: -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de

Feb. 23, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Font for Pharo

by Igor Stasenko

Looks nice & clean. 2009/2/23 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > thanks for the link and information! > > Stef > > On Feb 23, 2009, at 1:33 PM, JÃ©rÃ´me wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I found the Font "Andika Basic"[2] which is an Open Source and Free- >> Software[1] Unicode-ready font made by the same people who brought us >> Gentium, the typeface for the nations. I suggest using Andika as the >> Pharo CI Font since it can be distributed along with Pharo and looks a >> little bit like Lucida Grande, the Mac-UI-font, but at the same time >> is more friendly and better readable[3]. According to the Andika >> Website, Andika is Swahili, which is spoken widely in southeastern >> regions of the African continent, and means "Write!". >> >> Have a look: >> [2] http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=Andika >> [3] http://minusfreun.de/blog/uploads/Pharo.png >> >> JÃ©rÃ´me >> >> [1] http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Feb. 23, 2009

[Pharo-project] [update] #10242

by Marcus Denker

10242 ----- Issue 598: remove SquishedNameMorph Issue 597: remove #isNonZero Issue 458: Decompiler bug : (MCMergeBrowser >> #conflictSelectionDo:) decompile Issue 3: Utilities offerCommonRequests Issue 481: [Pending Etoy Cleaning] Object>> updateThresholdForGraphicInViewerTab Issue 492: [Pending Etoy Cleaning] Morph>>defaultValueOrNil Issue 599: SmaCC can't find silence in Sound Library Issue 583: Move UpdatingRectangleMorph out of etoy package Issue 419: TextMorphEditor(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #spawnIt: postscript: ParagraphEditor initializeCmdKeyShortcuts -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de

Feb. 23, 2009