February 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Announcements for Pharo?

by Lukas Renggli

> Lukas pointed out that the VW Announcements code is under Cincom > copyright. The nice thing about his implementation is that he did not > look at the code. He only implemented the idea as he read it from the > blog :). I originally started from Colin's minimal implementation in OB and extended it with additional ideas that I found in the blog of Vassili. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Feb. 26, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Have you guys got the refactoring of saveAs:

by Damien Cassou

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Keith Hodges <keith_hodges(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Installer mantis fixBug: '5851 Refactor SmalltalkImage saveAs'. > > I need to know for InstallerScripts-#LevelPlayingFieldPreamblePharo http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=612 -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

Feb. 26, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Announcements for Pharo?

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez

Keith Hodges wrote: > Rob Rothwell wrote: >> +1 >> >> Even as a beginner, it made sense to me! >> >> Rob >> >> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez >> <m.coba.m(a)gmail.com <mailto:m.coba.m@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Tudor Girba wrote: >> > That would be cool, actually. I have used the implementation of >> Lukas >> > and it works just fine. >> > >> > There is also WAAnnouncements, "Wandering announcements" which has a > whole lot more functionality taking advantage of the intrinsic structure > and logical geography of components. i.e. An announcement can track a > path up a hierarchy or over siblings. > > I wrote this to be useful for simulations (of hierarchical assemblies), > and the UI has a hierarchical structure. > It is possible to merge this extra functionality or create a new Announcements framework that includes the best of the two? Miguel CobÃ¡ > > Keith > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 26, 2009

[Pharo-project] Have you guys got the refactoring of saveAs:

by Keith Hodges

Installer mantis fixBug: '5851 Refactor SmalltalkImage saveAs'. I need to know for InstallerScripts-#LevelPlayingFieldPreamblePharo Keith

Feb. 26, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Announcements for Pharo?

by Keith Hodges

Rob Rothwell wrote: > +1 > > Even as a beginner, it made sense to me! > > Rob > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez > <m.coba.m(a)gmail.com <mailto:m.coba.m@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Tudor Girba wrote: > > That would be cool, actually. I have used the implementation of > Lukas > > and it works just fine. > > > There is also WAAnnouncements, "Wandering announcements" which has a whole lot more functionality taking advantage of the intrinsic structure and logical geography of components. i.e. An announcement can track a path up a hierarchy or over siblings. I wrote this to be useful for simulations (of hierarchical assemblies), and the UI has a hierarchical structure. Keith

Feb. 26, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

by Michael Rueger

Igor Stasenko wrote: > Regardless of active keyboard layout (en/ru) > it always prints same events for these keys, as following: > > z - 2 <timestamp> 90 1 0 90 0 1 > x - 2 <timestamp> 88 1 0 88 0 1 > c - 2 <timestamp> 67 1 0 67 0 1 > > so, if we use these events for shortcuts, everything will work similar > regardless of keys layout. Great, thanks! For which shortcuts does that usually work? cut x copy c paste v undo z open o print p all a save s anything else? Michael

Feb. 26, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Announcements for Pharo?

by Ramon Leon

> + 1 > > I also use the Lukas' version. > That is the version that we should use and standarize to. > > Miguel CobÃ¡ +1 for me as well, I also use Lukas' implementation. Ramon Leon http://onsmalltalk.com

Feb. 26, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Announcements for Pharo?

by Rob Rothwell

+1 Even as a beginner, it made sense to me! Rob On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez < m.coba.m(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Tudor Girba wrote: > > That would be cool, actually. I have used the implementation of Lukas > > and it works just fine. > > > > + 1 > > I also use the Lukas' version. > That is the version that we should use and standarize to. > > Miguel CobÃ¡ > > > Lukas pointed out that the VW Announcements code is under Cincom > > copyright. The nice thing about his implementation is that he did not > > look at the code. He only implemented the idea as he read it from the > > blog :). > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > On 26 Feb 2009, at 01:28, Michael Rueger wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> should we add Announcements as part of the core image? > >> And if so, which of the existing implementations? > >> > >> Michael > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Presenting is storytelling." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 26, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Announcements for Pharo?

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez

Tudor Girba wrote: > That would be cool, actually. I have used the implementation of Lukas > and it works just fine. > + 1 I also use the Lukas' version. That is the version that we should use and standarize to. Miguel CobÃ¡ > Lukas pointed out that the VW Announcements code is under Cincom > copyright. The nice thing about his implementation is that he did not > look at the code. He only implemented the idea as he read it from the > blog :). > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 26 Feb 2009, at 01:28, Michael Rueger wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> should we add Announcements as part of the core image? >> And if so, which of the existing implementations? >> >> Michael >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Presenting is storytelling." > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 26, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo scripting -- reborn as "Coral"

by David T. Lewis

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 09:48:08PM +0000, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > Marcus Denker <denker@...> writes: > > > On 25.02.2009, at 22:27, Matthew Fulmer wrote: > > > > >> > > >> Each command will then be a message sent to the object referenced by > > >> the variable 'shell'. > > >> > > >> entering 'ls' will then invoke 'shell.ls'... > > > > I would say that a command like "ls" is not a method. It's an object > > (instance of a sublass of "Script" or "Command"). > > > > You want, for example, inherit things like command line parsing, > > standard options > > (e.g. --help) and things liket that. A command like ls is far too > > complex to be > > just one method. > > I would say ls is a message, and Shell ls answer with a LSCommand which is > kindOf: Command. > A Command use lazy evaluation: it does not evaluate until a end of line or pipe > message triggers evaluation (i mean send the message #value). > > Before being evaluated, Command behaviour can be modified by sending all sort of > message, like -l --help etc... > Of course, apart options which are messages sent to the command (eventually with > arguments), a list of arguments can be passed to the Command itself (Command > valueWithArguments: aList). > > Just have to invent the syntax now... You may be interested in ExternalCommandShell which is part of the CommandShell package (SqueakMap, SqueakSource, etc). This lets you use Squeak as a command line shell replacing /bin/sh, and uses pipes to connect Smalltalk expressions, command objects, and external OS programs. http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6023 http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2153 http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1914 The syntax is a mashup of Smalltalk and unix shell conventions. The pipes are OS pipes where necessary to interact with external programs, or an object that minics OS pipe behavior if the "commands" being connected are Smalltalk expressions or command objects. For example, if you enter "help | cat" at the command prompt, you will get a Smalltalk command object that evaluates "help" and writes its output to a Unix pipe connected to an OS process running the /bin/cat command, which reads the output of the "help" command, and copies it to the shell output: sqsh> help | cat cd [path] - change default directory help - help on sqsh commands history - display command history list pwd - print current working directory sls [filepatterns] - list current directory contents snapshot - save the Squeak image exit - exit shell and quit Squeak without saving image type [names...] - indicate how each name would be interpreted if used as a command simple Smalltalk expression! evaluates a simple expression as a doIt <ctl-C> to interrupt a running program <ctl-D> to end input to a running program sqsh> Dave

Feb. 26, 2009