February 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Window buttons

by Gary Chambers

Open the Preference Browser (World Menu > System... > Preferences... > Preference Browser...) and change the uiTheme in the windows category (or search for "ui") and pick another theme. Unfortunately the noviceMode preference seems to have disappeared from Pharo (in Squeak, with that on, you'd get balloon help for the buttons). Regards, Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janko MivÅ¡ek" <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si> To: "Pharo Development" <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:30 AM Subject: [Pharo-project] Window buttons > Hi Pharo team, > > I tried the last pharo-dev an besides all nice things you guys improve I > also have some issues. > > First and foremost is the position and look of window buttons (minimize, > maximize, close) which are now on the left and in three different > colors, without knowing, what those colors mean. > > This is what I see on my Linux and I suppose this is an OS/X look&feel, > am I right? > > I tried to find where in settings can I change that back to Linux/Win > look@feel but without success. > > My question therefore is, how to change window buttons to be more > Linux/Windows friendly? > > I'd also suggest that such platform specific look&feel is set > automatically when image is started, the same goes also for middle mouse > button swap. Both usability features are currently very user unfrendly > for non-Mac users. > > Best regards > Janko > > > > -- > Janko MivÅ¡ek > AIDA/Web > Smalltalk Web Application Server > http://www.aidaweb.si > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] a couple of issues

by Gary Chambers

Personally, I'd like support for 5 button mice... Regards, Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil" <pbpublist(a)gmail.com> To: <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 4:47 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] a couple of issues > On 1/31/09 5:59 AM, Michael Rueger wrote: >> >> so what mouse button mappings do we want on each platform for 1, 2 and 3 >> button mice? Although I don't think a lot of people still use 3 button >> mice. >> > > Don't most people using an actual mouse these days have 3 buttons? (i.e. > scroll wheel mice) > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] a couple of issues

by Gary Chambers

Is not a problem on Win32, just need to reselect the VM preferences 3 button mouse (with multiple VMs it seems to need "reminding"!) Regards, Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tudor Girba" <girba(a)iam.unibe.ch> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] a couple of issues I am not sure I understand why this would be a problem for MS Windows. Or maybe I just do not understand the meaning of the swap option. In fact, all I want is to have the context menu on the right click and the normal behavior on the left click. Why should such a configuration create different behavior on Mac and on Windows? Cheers, Doru On Jan 31, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Michael Rueger wrote: > Damien Cassou wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 10:53 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> - Why is mouse swap preference not enabled by default? >>> yes it should :) >> >> Not sure because this will annoy users of MS Windows. > > so what mouse button mappings do we want on each platform for 1, 2 > and 3 > button mice? Although I don't think a lot of people still use 3 > button mice. > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get." _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 1, 2009

[Pharo-project] Window buttons

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Hi Pharo team, I tried the last pharo-dev an besides all nice things you guys improve I also have some issues. First and foremost is the position and look of window buttons (minimize, maximize, close) which are now on the left and in three different colors, without knowing, what those colors mean. This is what I see on my Linux and I suppose this is an OS/X look&feel, am I right? I tried to find where in settings can I change that back to Linux/Win look@feel but without success. My question therefore is, how to change window buttons to be more Linux/Windows friendly? I'd also suggest that such platform specific look&feel is set automatically when image is started, the same goes also for middle mouse button swap. Both usability features are currently very user unfrendly for non-Mac users. Best regards Janko -- Janko MivÅ¡ek AIDA/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

Feb. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [MC] [ANN] Sourcetalk

by Lukas Renggli

> 1) In sourcetalk I think there is a little bug when adding projects. The > first label of the form says "Create group". I think It should be "create > project." > Its very little, but I saw it hehehe. Thank you for pointing that out. > 2) I was following the user guide but have a problem in 3.3.1 "Adding a > project". I don't see "add sourcetalk project" in the list. I only see "add > directory repository", "add file repository" and "add memory repository". > And that's all I see. Any idea what I did wrong ? Did you load Sourcetalk-Client-lr.4.st that I posted in the original announcement? Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Feb. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] a couple of issues

by Phil

On 1/31/09 5:59 AM, Michael Rueger wrote: > > so what mouse button mappings do we want on each platform for 1, 2 and 3 > button mice? Although I don't think a lot of people still use 3 button mice. > Don't most people using an actual mouse these days have 3 buttons? (i.e. scroll wheel mice)

Feb. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] a couple of issues

by Tudor Girba

There was a warning complaining that some instance variable is in capital letter. The warning is nice to have, but the problem is that it stops the loading process. Cheers, Doru On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:53 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> > Thanks for the feedback > >> There are a couple of issues I stumbled across in Pharo and I thought >> of reporting them: >> >> - When loading Pier and Seaside there were some Warnings related to >> some instance variables that blocked the loading. This is a rather >> strange behavior, especially given that they are warnings. I would >> rather prefer to have the list of warnings presented to me at the end >> because like this I can have the code loading without me needing to >> pay attention. > > can you be more precise, what is the message? > >> - Apple+B does not work on methods anymore. > > Yes > Apple-N neither on method list > >> >> >> - Apple+W does not close the window. It seems that the outside window >> never gets the focus it needs to act on this shortcut. >> >> - Spawning a browser takes quite a long time. >> >> - Why is mouse swap preference not enabled by default? > > yes it should :) > >> >> >> >> Otherwise, it looks really nice :) >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle." >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "Sometimes the best solution is not the best solution."

Feb. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] a couple of issues

by Tudor Girba

I am not sure I understand why this would be a problem for MS Windows. Or maybe I just do not understand the meaning of the swap option. In fact, all I want is to have the context menu on the right click and the normal behavior on the left click. Why should such a configuration create different behavior on Mac and on Windows? Cheers, Doru On Jan 31, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Michael Rueger wrote: > Damien Cassou wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 10:53 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> - Why is mouse swap preference not enabled by default? >>> yes it should :) >> >> Not sure because this will annoy users of MS Windows. > > so what mouse button mappings do we want on each platform for 1, 2 > and 3 > button mice? Although I don't think a lot of people still use 3 > button mice. > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get."

Feb. 1, 2009