February 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] MVCMenuMorph and Flaps status

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

We could keep flaps but clean them because they are a bit messy. On Feb 1, 2009, at 7:55 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > Indeed. Projects are, perhaps, nice idea, never used them though... > Flaps... I still quite like a flap on the right (solid style, pop- > out on > mouseover) for tools... one less click than our "open" option on the > main > docking bar (not available in Pharo)... > > Regards, Gary. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr>; <alain.plantec(a)free.fr> > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 6:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] MVCMenuMorph and Flaps status > > >> Excellent! >> I would say that project and flaps are to be removed. >> What the other think? >> >> Stef >> >> On Feb 1, 2009, at 6:46 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> I'm on MVCMenuMorph removal >>> (http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=197) >>> I'm just trying to isolate all impacted classes and methods. >>> In current pharo core, MVCMenuMorph has only 3 users. >>> One of them is Flaps class>>addLocalFlap. >>> Since they are no more reachable from menus (as far as I known), >>> The question is what is the status of flaps ? >>> Are they to be removed ? (i would vote yes) >>> Project removal (if done) is also concerned because a lot of >>> Project methods are related to flaps. >>> thanks >>> alain >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] MVCMenuMorph and Flaps status

by Gary Chambers

Indeed. Projects are, perhaps, nice idea, never used them though... Flaps... I still quite like a flap on the right (solid style, pop-out on mouseover) for tools... one less click than our "open" option on the main docking bar (not available in Pharo)... Regards, Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr>; <alain.plantec(a)free.fr> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] MVCMenuMorph and Flaps status > Excellent! > I would say that project and flaps are to be removed. > What the other think? > > Stef > > On Feb 1, 2009, at 6:46 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I'm on MVCMenuMorph removal >> (http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=197) >> I'm just trying to isolate all impacted classes and methods. >> In current pharo core, MVCMenuMorph has only 3 users. >> One of them is Flaps class>>addLocalFlap. >> Since they are no more reachable from menus (as far as I known), >> The question is what is the status of flaps ? >> Are they to be removed ? (i would vote yes) >> Project removal (if done) is also concerned because a lot of >> Project methods are related to flaps. >> thanks >> alain >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] MVCMenuMorph and Flaps status

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Excellent! I would say that project and flaps are to be removed. What the other think? Stef On Feb 1, 2009, at 6:46 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: > Hi all, > I'm on MVCMenuMorph removal > (http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=197) > I'm just trying to isolate all impacted classes and methods. > In current pharo core, MVCMenuMorph has only 3 users. > One of them is Flaps class>>addLocalFlap. > Since they are no more reachable from menus (as far as I known), > The question is what is the status of flaps ? > Are they to be removed ? (i would vote yes) > Project removal (if done) is also concerned because a lot of > Project methods are related to flaps. > thanks > alain > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 1, 2009

[Pharo-project] MVCMenuMorph and Flaps status

by Alain Plantec

Hi all, I'm on MVCMenuMorph removal (http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=197) I'm just trying to isolate all impacted classes and methods. In current pharo core, MVCMenuMorph has only 3 users. One of them is Flaps class>>addLocalFlap. Since they are no more reachable from menus (as far as I known), The question is what is the status of flaps ? Are they to be removed ? (i would vote yes) Project removal (if done) is also concerned because a lot of Project methods are related to flaps. thanks alain

Feb. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] a couple of issues

by Gary Chambers

Now in Polymorph-Widgets-gvc.38 on SqueakSource. Regards, Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] a couple of issues >>>> >> >> This is due to the keboard focus handling. I can add the Cmd+W to do >> that >> (currently Cmd+Delete will close the window with focus). > > Would be really great! > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] .changes not found after a condenseChanges

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

which VM do you use? Stef On Feb 1, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > I had this error using the latest Core image. > > Strange, > Alexandre > > > On 1 Feb 2009, at 12:58, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 16:01 +0100, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> After having done a "Smalltalk condenseChanges" changes, I got the >>> following error: >>> >> I had this error a few times with an image of 208 I think. >> I got it even without having the condenseChange. I tried >> to repair it with condenseChanges but didn't succeed. And >> then I didn't find to time to track it down. I just upgrade >> to a newer image and the problem disappeared. >> >> Norbert >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] a couple of issues

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>>> > > This is due to the keboard focus handling. I can add the Cmd+W to do > that > (currently Cmd+Delete will close the window with focus). Would be really great!

Feb. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] In the way of cleaning etoy

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Do you have cs or a MC package? Because I think that I would have to redo it following what you did because of possible conficts. So the main message is Yes let us rip out BookMorph which sounds the right things to do. > I have an image that I ripped bookmorph out of, you want it? I > ripped quite a few morphic classes out, plus removed quite a few > "test" methods that lurk on the class > side of various classes. > > BookMorph subclasses are StackMorph (which is easy to dispose of, > and TabbedPalette which is harder because that's used by the the > PreferenceBrower logic You mean the old one or the new one? > I dropped the Preference Browser logic so I didn't chase where > PreferencePanel was used. > > Still there were a few methods that needed updating, perhaps thing to > make this a bit easier is if someone could review usage if isKindOf: > and change that to tests like isBookMorph, etc > > Also stuff test methods and Sunit tests into a seperate MC package > that you can choose to unload if you want. > > On 30-Jan-09, at 12:59 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> I'm working on removing etoy. >> >> I'm stuck with some methods I checked the references to Player >> restoreClassInstVars: is for example one of them. >> >> Now I would like to know what do you think of project. >> I think that we should remove it as well as bookmorph but I would >> like >> to know what do you think. > > -- > = > = > = > = > = > ====================================================================== > John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http:// > www.smalltalkconsulting.com > = > = > = > = > = > ====================================================================== > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] .changes not found after a condenseChanges

by Alexandre Bergel

I had this error using the latest Core image. Strange, Alexandre On 1 Feb 2009, at 12:58, Norbert Hartl wrote: > On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 16:01 +0100, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> Hi! >> >> After having done a "Smalltalk condenseChanges" changes, I got the >> following error: >> > I had this error a few times with an image of 208 I think. > I got it even without having the condenseChange. I tried > to repair it with condenseChanges but didn't succeed. And > then I didn't find to time to track it down. I just upgrade > to a newer image and the problem disappeared. > > Norbert > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] .changes not found after a condenseChanges

by Norbert Hartl

On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 16:01 +0100, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi! > > After having done a "Smalltalk condenseChanges" changes, I got the > following error: > I had this error a few times with an image of 208 I think. I got it even without having the condenseChange. I tried to repair it with condenseChanges but didn't succeed. And then I didn't find to time to track it down. I just upgrade to a newer image and the problem disappeared. Norbert

Feb. 1, 2009