February 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] Presentation

by Alexandre Bergel

Dear List, I made up few slides about Pharo. The goal is to give in less than 30 minutes the essence of Pharo. Please, shot at me, I like that :-) http://bergel.eu/Pharo.pdf I provide the .keynote upon request. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 5, 2009

[Pharo-project] Presentation

by Alexandre Bergel

Dear List, I made up few slides about Pharo. The goal is to give in less than 30 minutes the essence of Pharo. Please, shot at me, I like that :-) I provide the .keynote upon request. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Download not working

by Marcus Denker

On 05.02.2009, at 17:45, Michael Rueger wrote: > Hi all, > > when I click on any of the download links I get an error (Firefox on > Windows and Ubuntu) > > Secure Connection Failed > gforge.inria.fr uses an invalid security certificate. > The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is > unknown. > (Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer) > I changed the link to use http, not https. And I linked to 218. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

Feb. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Download not working

by Gary Chambers

Seems ok here (does http:// rather than https://)... Regards, Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandre Bergel" <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Download not working >I just tried, it works for me. But I am within inria. Maybe only > people extern from inria are affected. > I am waiting for another complain from the list before shouting in the > corridor and knocking on all doors. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 5 Feb 2009, at 17:45, Michael Rueger wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> when I click on any of the download links I get an error (Firefox on >> Windows and Ubuntu) >> >> Secure Connection Failed >> gforge.inria.fr uses an invalid security certificate. >> The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is >> unknown. >> (Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer) >> >> >> Is it just me? >> >> Michael >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 5, 2009

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 10220

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

- Controlled Popup at script loading time Now you can run pharo in console mode and do not get popup - Workspace history (sorry alex now it should be in)

Feb. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Download not working

by Alexandre Bergel

I just tried, it works for me. But I am within inria. Maybe only people extern from inria are affected. I am waiting for another complain from the list before shouting in the corridor and knocking on all doors. Cheers, Alexandre On 5 Feb 2009, at 17:45, Michael Rueger wrote: > Hi all, > > when I click on any of the download links I get an error (Firefox on > Windows and Ubuntu) > > Secure Connection Failed > gforge.inria.fr uses an invalid security certificate. > The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is > unknown. > (Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer) > > > Is it just me? > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Download not working

by Michael Rueger

P.S. it also seems the one-click isn't linked directly from the Pharo site? Michael

Feb. 5, 2009

[Pharo-project] Download not working

by Michael Rueger

Hi all, when I click on any of the download links I get an error (Firefox on Windows and Ubuntu) Secure Connection Failed gforge.inria.fr uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown. (Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer) Is it just me? Michael

Feb. 5, 2009

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 20219

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

- File list fix - Preference for Diff - PopUpMenu cleaning Stef

Feb. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] About Preference Flow: was Re:MonticelloChangesDialog

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks I will have a look. stef On Feb 5, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Gary Chambers wrote: > See Preference>>preferenceValue: (that is what happens when a > preference is > changed). > This sends notifyInformeeOfChange which can perform a zero argument > selector > on the "model" object/class which > then eventually has to query Preferences for the value. > See senders of, for instance, > #addPreference:categories:default:balloonHelp:projectLocal:changeInformee:changeSelector:viewRegistry > : > and their associated changeSelectors. > > This is how things are at the moment. > > Lukas' idea about pragmas is nice, essentially the same as a discovery > interface. Either way the PreferenceBrowser would need changing. > > Regards, Gary. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] About Preference Flow: was > Re:MonticelloChangesDialog > > > Sorry gary you lost me. I do not get change informee. > > On Feb 4, 2009, at 5:50 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > >> Looking at the changeInformee code in Preferences/Preference, the >> informee >> still has to query the preference >> to pick up any changes as it stands... > > If I understand correctly I think not. > The flow is only from the Preference to the tools and after the tools > only refers to > its internal state (which represents a state in his own preference). > > Stef >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:50 PM >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] About Preference Flow: was Re: >> MonticelloChangesDialog >> >> >> >> On Feb 4, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: >> >>> Ceratainly possible. You'd want a discovery mechanism for a new >>> Preference >>> Browser also, otherwise who would know what the preferences are. >> >> no because you still define the preference in the Preference class >> it just pushes the right value in MyTool and MyTool does not have to >> query Preference >> at runtime. >> >>> The method flow would still be similar, unless you had some >>> redirection to >>> alternate classes or methods or blocks... >> >> No. We use the preference when we select it. Then MyTool uses what >> has >> been pushed >> to it. and in particular it does not query at runtime preference. >> So Preference becomes a removal layer on top of the system and not >> something >> referenced by every method flow. >> >>> So, in new scheme (no dependency on Preferences) the doSomething >>> might be: >>> >>> self class shouldUseNewDiffTool >>> ifTrue: [kjlhkjhjkh ] >>> ifFalse: [nkjhkjkjhkj] >> >> Yes in mytool I deal the way I want about my preference since they >> are >> local to me. >> I do not involve preference. Preference is just a handy facade >> grouping all the preferences >> and an entry point to set the preferences in the tools. >> >>> >>> >>> and >>> MyTool class>>preferences >>> >>> would answer something suitable for a preference browser. >> >> Could be but the package could also install the preferences in the >> preferences class >> >> Stef >>> >>> >>> Regards, Gary. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >>> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:58 AM >>> Subject: [Pharo-project] About Preference Flow: was Re: Monticello >>> ChangesDialog >>> >>> >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> I have a request about the way we use preference. And this is kind >>>> of >>>> really really important if we want to >>>> stop having spaghetti code. >>>> >>>> Instead of having the current situation ie >>>> >>>> MyTool>>doSomething >>>> >>>> .... >>>> Preferences useNewDiffTool >>>> ifTrue: [kjlhkjhjkh ] >>>> ifFalse: [nkjhkjkjhkj] >>>> >>>> >>>> and not been able to remove the preferences (or that the preference >>>> is >>>> just a configuration layer). >>>> >>>> I would like to have the preference made that way >>>> >>>> MyTool class>>useNewDiff >>>> >>>> MyTool class>> useOldDiff >>>> >>>> **NO REFERENCE TO PREFERENCE IN THE METHOD FLOW!!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> Preferences useNewDiffTool >>>> MyTool useNewDiff >>>> >>>> I really think that we can do it that way and this way we would >>>> have a >>>> much more object-oriented system >>>> Do you think that this is possible with polymorph? >>>> I think so. >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 5, 2009