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Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!!

by Serge Stinckwich

2009/12/31 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > Ok, you already know the idea. Damien, or the person that build the next > Pharo dev and web images will send those Pharo beta testers a private email > with the link to download the image. No ANN and now update is done yet to > the website. Then the betatesters use that image as much as possible for a > couple of days. Report bugs if necessary and if it is ok, the image is > released. > > Regarding the list of beta testers would be perfect if we cover the > combination of OS (Linux, Mac, Windows) and the browser (OB, O2). But we > cannot pretend too much. Take into account that not all the people can work > with a new image very easily because they have to migrate data > ...etc..Others can just download the project from MC and start to work :) > > So...here is the list, if you offer yourself, it would be cool to know: OS, > VM version, Dev or Web,Â browser you usually work, 32 o 64 bits, > I will then collect this and I will put it in the wiki. > > - Mariano Martinez Peck.Â Mac OS, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app,Â Dev, OB, 32 bits > - Stan Shepherd > > > WHO ELSE IS IN THE LIST ?? Serge Stinckwich, Mac OS X 10.6.2, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app VM, dev, OB, 32 bits -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] http://doesnotunderstand.org/

Dec. 31, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!!

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Ok....thanks to all. I created this page: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfBetaTesters We only need the confirmation from Demian. Have a happy new year! Mariano ps: leaving to paris :) On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > Count on me as well Mariano. > > Alexandre > > > On 31 Dec 2009, at 12:40, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Tudor Girba > > <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I would like to participate (within some time constraints). > > > > Excellent. No, there will not be any time constraints. I say just a > > few days, to express that we need really test it, at least for a > > several hours. All of us are doing this as a Hobie. So, not press. > > The worst thing that can happens is that the rest of the testers > > test it, (you don't) and the image is released. > > But there is no problem at all, next image :) > > > > > > I can test > > the loading and the development of Moose in that image. I am working > > on a Mac. > > > > > > Cool!! But the problem is not only the load, but the use in itself. > > Look, the script seemed to work. I "loaded" everything, but then.... > > > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > On 31 Dec 2009, at 12:12, Stan Shepherd wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > >> > > >> Ok, you already know the idea. Damien, or the person that build the > > >> next > > >> Pharo dev and web images will send those Pharo beta testers a > > private > > >> email > > >> with the link to download the image. No ANN and now update is done > > >> yet to > > >> the website. Then the betatesters use that image as much as > > >> possible for a > > >> couple of days. Report bugs if necessary and if it is ok, the image > > >> is > > >> released. > > >> > > >> Regarding the list of beta testers would be perfect if we cover the > > >> combination of OS (Linux, Mac, Windows) and the browser (OB, O2). > > >> But we > > >> cannot pretend too much. Take into account that not all the people > > >> can > > >> work > > >> with a new image very easily because they have to migrate data > > >> ...etc..Others can just download the project from MC and start to > > >> work :) > > >> > > >> So...here is the list, if you offer yourself, it would be cool to > > >> know: > > >> OS, > > >> VM version, Dev or Web, browser you usually work, 32 o 64 bits, > > >> I will then collect this and I will put it in the wiki. > > >> > > >> - Mariano Martinez Peck. Mac OS, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app, Dev, OB, > > >> 32 > > >> bits > > >> - Stan Shepherd > > >> > > >> > > >> WHO ELSE IS IN THE LIST ?? > > >> > > >> cheers and happy new year!! > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Pharo-project mailing list > > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >> > > > Ubuntu 9.04, > > > VM: unix - i686 - linux-gnu - Pharo0.1 of 16 May 2008 [latest > > update: > > > #10074] > > > Web > > > OB (would also used package browser if working) > > > 32 bit > > > ...Stan > > > > > > -- > > > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Pharo-testers-WE-NEED-YOU-tp4235920p4235982.html > > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, > > one might have better chances to win by moving slower." > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Dec. 31, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!!

by Alexandre Bergel

Count on me as well Mariano. Alexandre On 31 Dec 2009, at 12:40, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Tudor Girba > <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to participate (within some time constraints). > > Excellent. No, there will not be any time constraints. I say just a > few days, to express that we need really test it, at least for a > several hours. All of us are doing this as a Hobie. So, not press. > The worst thing that can happens is that the rest of the testers > test it, (you don't) and the image is released. > But there is no problem at all, next image :) > > > I can test > the loading and the development of Moose in that image. I am working > on a Mac. > > > Cool!! But the problem is not only the load, but the use in itself. > Look, the script seemed to work. I "loaded" everything, but then.... > > > Cheers, > Doru > > On 31 Dec 2009, at 12:12, Stan Shepherd wrote: > > > > > > > > > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> > >> Ok, you already know the idea. Damien, or the person that build the > >> next > >> Pharo dev and web images will send those Pharo beta testers a > private > >> email > >> with the link to download the image. No ANN and now update is done > >> yet to > >> the website. Then the betatesters use that image as much as > >> possible for a > >> couple of days. Report bugs if necessary and if it is ok, the image > >> is > >> released. > >> > >> Regarding the list of beta testers would be perfect if we cover the > >> combination of OS (Linux, Mac, Windows) and the browser (OB, O2). > >> But we > >> cannot pretend too much. Take into account that not all the people > >> can > >> work > >> with a new image very easily because they have to migrate data > >> ...etc..Others can just download the project from MC and start to > >> work :) > >> > >> So...here is the list, if you offer yourself, it would be cool to > >> know: > >> OS, > >> VM version, Dev or Web, browser you usually work, 32 o 64 bits, > >> I will then collect this and I will put it in the wiki. > >> > >> - Mariano Martinez Peck. Mac OS, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app, Dev, OB, > >> 32 > >> bits > >> - Stan Shepherd > >> > >> > >> WHO ELSE IS IN THE LIST ?? > >> > >> cheers and happy new year!! > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > Ubuntu 9.04, > > VM: unix - i686 - linux-gnu - Pharo0.1 of 16 May 2008 [latest > update: > > #10074] > > Web > > OB (would also used package browser if working) > > 32 bit > > ...Stan > > > > -- > > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Pharo-testers-WE-NEED-YOU-tp4235920p4235982.html > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, > one might have better chances to win by moving slower." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 31, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Link from website to pending issues is wrong

by Adrian Lienhard

Thanks. Fixed. Adrian On Dec 31, 2009, at 12:29 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Where it says "See: list of open issues of > PharoCore<http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&amp%20q=milestone=1.0 > >and > additional > issues of Pharo<http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&amp%20q=milestone=1.0-DevI… > > > ." > > They go to all issues, not 1.0. The links are wrong. Maybe Google > changed > the api of the parameters since the time the links were put. > > I would put something like this (at least it works for me) > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=label%3AMilestone-1.0 > > Cheers > > Mariano > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 31, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!!

by Adrian Lienhard

I can also do testing (on a Mac). Thanks for taking the initiative, Mariano! Adrian On Dec 31, 2009, at 12:40 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Tudor Girba > <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I would like to participate (within some time constraints). > > > Excellent. No, there will not be any time constraints. I say just a > few > days, to express that we need really test it, at least for a several > hours. > All of us are doing this as a Hobie. So, not press. > The worst thing that can happens is that the rest of the testers > test it, > (you don't) and the image is released. > But there is no problem at all, next image :) > > > >> I can test >> the loading and the development of Moose in that image. I am working >> on a Mac. >> >> > Cool!! But the problem is not only the load, but the use in itself. > Look, > the script seemed to work. I "loaded" everything, but then.... > > > >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> On 31 Dec 2009, at 12:12, Stan Shepherd wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>>> >>>> Ok, you already know the idea. Damien, or the person that build the >>>> next >>>> Pharo dev and web images will send those Pharo beta testers a >>>> private >>>> email >>>> with the link to download the image. No ANN and now update is done >>>> yet to >>>> the website. Then the betatesters use that image as much as >>>> possible for a >>>> couple of days. Report bugs if necessary and if it is ok, the image >>>> is >>>> released. >>>> >>>> Regarding the list of beta testers would be perfect if we cover the >>>> combination of OS (Linux, Mac, Windows) and the browser (OB, O2). >>>> But we >>>> cannot pretend too much. Take into account that not all the people >>>> can >>>> work >>>> with a new image very easily because they have to migrate data >>>> ...etc..Others can just download the project from MC and start to >>>> work :) >>>> >>>> So...here is the list, if you offer yourself, it would be cool to >>>> know: >>>> OS, >>>> VM version, Dev or Web, browser you usually work, 32 o 64 bits, >>>> I will then collect this and I will put it in the wiki. >>>> >>>> - Mariano Martinez Peck. Mac OS, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app, Dev, OB, >>>> 32 >>>> bits >>>> - Stan Shepherd >>>> >>>> >>>> WHO ELSE IS IN THE LIST ?? >>>> >>>> cheers and happy new year!! >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> Ubuntu 9.04, >>> VM: unix - i686 - linux-gnu - Pharo0.1 of 16 May 2008 [latest >>> update: >>> #10074] >>> Web >>> OB (would also used package browser if working) >>> 32 bit >>> ...Stan >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >> http://n2.nabble.com/Pharo-testers-WE-NEED-YOU-tp4235920p4235982.html >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, >> one might have better chances to win by moving slower." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 31, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Link from website to pending issues is wrong

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

yeap sound good to me. On Dec 31, 2009, at 12:29 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Where it says "See: list of open issues of PharoCore and additional issues of Pharo." > > They go to all issues, not 1.0. The links are wrong. Maybe Google changed the api of the parameters since the time the links were put. > > I would put something like this (at least it works for me) > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=label%3AMilestone-1.0 > > Cheers > > Mariano > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 31, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!!

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to participate (within some time constraints). Excellent. No, there will not be any time constraints. I say just a few days, to express that we need really test it, at least for a several hours. All of us are doing this as a Hobie. So, not press. The worst thing that can happens is that the rest of the testers test it, (you don't) and the image is released. But there is no problem at all, next image :) > I can test > the loading and the development of Moose in that image. I am working > on a Mac. > > Cool!! But the problem is not only the load, but the use in itself. Look, the script seemed to work. I "loaded" everything, but then.... > Cheers, > Doru > > On 31 Dec 2009, at 12:12, Stan Shepherd wrote: > > > > > > > > > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> > >> Ok, you already know the idea. Damien, or the person that build the > >> next > >> Pharo dev and web images will send those Pharo beta testers a private > >> email > >> with the link to download the image. No ANN and now update is done > >> yet to > >> the website. Then the betatesters use that image as much as > >> possible for a > >> couple of days. Report bugs if necessary and if it is ok, the image > >> is > >> released. > >> > >> Regarding the list of beta testers would be perfect if we cover the > >> combination of OS (Linux, Mac, Windows) and the browser (OB, O2). > >> But we > >> cannot pretend too much. Take into account that not all the people > >> can > >> work > >> with a new image very easily because they have to migrate data > >> ...etc..Others can just download the project from MC and start to > >> work :) > >> > >> So...here is the list, if you offer yourself, it would be cool to > >> know: > >> OS, > >> VM version, Dev or Web, browser you usually work, 32 o 64 bits, > >> I will then collect this and I will put it in the wiki. > >> > >> - Mariano Martinez Peck. Mac OS, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app, Dev, OB, > >> 32 > >> bits > >> - Stan Shepherd > >> > >> > >> WHO ELSE IS IN THE LIST ?? > >> > >> cheers and happy new year!! > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > Ubuntu 9.04, > > VM: unix - i686 - linux-gnu - Pharo0.1 of 16 May 2008 [latest update: > > #10074] > > Web > > OB (would also used package browser if working) > > 32 bit > > ...Stan > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Pharo-testers-WE-NEED-YOU-tp4235920p4235982.html > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, > one might have better chances to win by moving slower." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Dec. 31, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!!

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I would like to participate (within some time constraints). I can test the loading and the development of Moose in that image. I am working on a Mac. Cheers, Doru On 31 Dec 2009, at 12:12, Stan Shepherd wrote: > > > > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >> Ok, you already know the idea. Damien, or the person that build the >> next >> Pharo dev and web images will send those Pharo beta testers a private >> email >> with the link to download the image. No ANN and now update is done >> yet to >> the website. Then the betatesters use that image as much as >> possible for a >> couple of days. Report bugs if necessary and if it is ok, the image >> is >> released. >> >> Regarding the list of beta testers would be perfect if we cover the >> combination of OS (Linux, Mac, Windows) and the browser (OB, O2). >> But we >> cannot pretend too much. Take into account that not all the people >> can >> work >> with a new image very easily because they have to migrate data >> ...etc..Others can just download the project from MC and start to >> work :) >> >> So...here is the list, if you offer yourself, it would be cool to >> know: >> OS, >> VM version, Dev or Web, browser you usually work, 32 o 64 bits, >> I will then collect this and I will put it in the wiki. >> >> - Mariano Martinez Peck. Mac OS, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app, Dev, OB, >> 32 >> bits >> - Stan Shepherd >> >> >> WHO ELSE IS IN THE LIST ?? >> >> cheers and happy new year!! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > Ubuntu 9.04, > VM: unix - i686 - linux-gnu - Pharo0.1 of 16 May 2008 [latest update: > #10074] > Web > OB (would also used package browser if working) > 32 bit > ...Stan > > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Pharo-testers-WE-NEED-YOU-tp4235920p4235982.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, one might have better chances to win by moving slower."

Dec. 31, 2009

[Pharo-project] Link from website to pending issues is wrong

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Where it says "See: list of open issues of PharoCore<http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&amp%20q=milestone=1.0>and additional issues of Pharo<http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&amp%20q=milestone=1.0-DevI…> ." They go to all issues, not 1.0. The links are wrong. Maybe Google changed the api of the parameters since the time the links were put. I would put something like this (at least it works for me) http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=label%3AMilestone-1.0 Cheers Mariano

Dec. 31, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!!

by Stan Shepherd

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Ok, you already know the idea. Damien, or the person that build the next > Pharo dev and web images will send those Pharo beta testers a private > email > with the link to download the image. No ANN and now update is done yet to > the website. Then the betatesters use that image as much as possible for a > couple of days. Report bugs if necessary and if it is ok, the image is > released. > > Regarding the list of beta testers would be perfect if we cover the > combination of OS (Linux, Mac, Windows) and the browser (OB, O2). But we > cannot pretend too much. Take into account that not all the people can > work > with a new image very easily because they have to migrate data > ...etc..Others can just download the project from MC and start to work :) > > So...here is the list, if you offer yourself, it would be cool to know: > OS, > VM version, Dev or Web, browser you usually work, 32 o 64 bits, > I will then collect this and I will put it in the wiki. > > - Mariano Martinez Peck. Mac OS, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app, Dev, OB, 32 > bits > - Stan Shepherd > > > WHO ELSE IS IN THE LIST ?? > > cheers and happy new year!! > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > Ubuntu 9.04, VM: unix - i686 - linux-gnu - Pharo0.1 of 16 May 2008 [latest update: #10074] Web OB (would also used package browser if working) 32 bit ...Stan -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Pharo-testers-WE-NEED-YOU-tp4235920p4235982.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 31, 2009