December 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Protocol extension proposal: Boolean>>asBit ?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> I don't think that something that is not used in Pharo itself should > be included in the core. AFAIK packages like Alien and FFI have their > own converter methods for similar things. how do they are named in alien or FFI? This is two simple and trivial methods. There are so many other stuff that make no sense to have that I would be ok to keep these ones. > > Lukas > > 2009/12/5 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> I like the idea. >> publish the code with some tests + a bug entry and we include it. >> >> Now do you have any idea how the selector could mkae sure that we know that true is one? >> Because I could never remember that in C. I used stickers on my screen or macros. >> >> >> On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >>> I currently writing a code which looks like: >>> >>> a := some numeric expression + (someBoolean ifTrue: [1] ifFalse: [0]). >>> >>> And i get somewhat tired repeating the same pattern in multiple places. >>> So, i thinking , maybe #asBit convenience method could be useful? >>> >>> True>>asBit >>> ^ 1 >>> False>>asBit >>> ^ 0 >>> >>> so, then, in case of need like above, we could write much shorter expressions: >>> a := some numeric expression + someBoolean asBit. >>> >>> And its much less error prone comparing to #ifTrue:ifFalse:, since i >>> found its relatively easy to make a mess (swapping 1 with 0), >>> especially, when you having negations in expression, because once you see: >>> >>> (someBoolean not ifTrue: [1] ifFalse: [0]) >>> >>> you always tempted to write it as: >>> >>> (someBoolean ifTrue: [0] ifFalse: [1]). >>> >>> or as: >>> >>> (someBoolean ifFalse: [1] ifTrue: [0]). >>> >>> but once you start playing with it, its very easy to shoot into own >>> feet if you are not careful. >>> >>> But if we could add #asBit, then we could write: >>> >>> someBoolean not asBit >>> >>> which is much more: >>> a) concise & cleaner >>> b) error proof >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] removing class instead of method

by Lukas Renggli

> from time to time I get my class removed instead of a method. > Is there a menu entry allowing to do that on the **method** menu items. > Because this is really annoying. Happened to me too. If you use the refactoring engine there are two distinct menu items: refactor class > remove refactor method > remove Lukas 2009/12/5 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Hi > > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Dec. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] How do I know which issues are resolved in each new release?

by Lukas Renggli

There is a Pier plugin with a nice model for Twitter at http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons, examples can be seen on the front-page of ese.unibe.ch and lukas-renggli.ch. I use the plugin mostly to pull public timelines, but it would be easy to adapt to also post tweets. Below a shell script that could be adapted: curl --quiet --user "${USERNAME}:${PASSWORD}" --data status="${MESSAGE}" "${URL}" Cheers, Lukas 2009/12/5 Marcus Denker <denker(a)acm.org>: > > On Dec 4, 2009, at 7:55 PM, csrabak(a)bol.com.br wrote: > >> Marcus, >> >> This brings a question to me: is there a sort of API or web service we could use (obviously >> for calling from inside Pharo) to post at the Pharo's Twitter account? >> >> I surmise that doing that for the blog would be 'easier' :-) > > Hmm... twitter has a REST style API: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Twitter-API-Documentation > > This should not be too difficult to use from within Pharo... > > Â Â Â Â Marcus > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Dec. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Protocol extension proposal: Boolean>>asBit ?

by Lukas Renggli

I don't think that something that is not used in Pharo itself should be included in the core. AFAIK packages like Alien and FFI have their own converter methods for similar things. Lukas 2009/12/5 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > I like the idea. > publish the code with some tests + a bug entry and we include it. > > Now do you have any idea how the selector could mkae sure that we know that true is one? > Because I could never remember that in C. I used stickers on my screen or macros. > > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> I currently writing a code which looks like: >> >> a := some numeric expression + (someBoolean ifTrue: [1] ifFalse: [0]). >> >> And i get somewhat tired repeating the same pattern in multiple places. >> So, i thinking , maybe #asBit convenience method could be useful? >> >> True>>asBit >> Â ^ 1 >> False>>asBit >> Â ^ 0 >> >> so, then, in case of need like above, we could write much shorter expressions: >> a := some numeric expression + someBoolean asBit. >> >> And its much less error prone comparing to #ifTrue:ifFalse:, since i >> found its relatively easy to make a mess (swapping 1 with 0), >> especially, when you having negations in expression, because once you see: >> >> (someBoolean not ifTrue: [1] ifFalse: [0]) >> >> you always tempted to write it as: >> >> (someBoolean ifTrue: [0] ifFalse: [1]). >> >> or as: >> >> (someBoolean ifFalse: [1] ifTrue: [0]). >> >> but once you start playing with it, its very easy to shoot into own >> feet if you are not careful. >> >> But if we could add #asBit, then we could write: >> >> someBoolean not asBit >> >> which is much more: >> a) concise & cleaner >> b) error proof >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Dec. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] christmas coding parties?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> > > > > Ok. So, it is 18h at what time ? 9 or 11? is this a pharo sprint or whatever? > > whatever :) > > > address ? > > We can either do it at the university or at my place but I have to check with my wife ;) > > > hahahah ok. Let me know. Because when I create the doodle schedule, the address is asked. > what address? write Lille :)

Dec. 5, 2009

[Pharo-project] removing class instead of method

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi from time to time I get my class removed instead of a method. Is there a menu entry allowing to do that on the **method** menu items. Because this is really annoying. Stef

Dec. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] christmas coding parties?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:26 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>wrote: > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:39 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > ok we should pick some dates. > > mariano can you launch a doodle? > > > > > > Ok. So, it is 18h at what time ? 9 or 11? is this a pharo sprint or > whatever? > > whatever :) > > > address ? > > We can either do it at the university or at my place but I have to check > with my wife ;) > > hahahah ok. Let me know. Because when I create the doodle schedule, the address is asked. > > > > Best, > > > > Mariano > > > > > > > > On Dec 4, 2009, at 9:39 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > > > > I would be in for an > online-video-screensharing-pairprogramming-coding-party :-) > > > > > > Lukas > > > > > > 2009/12/4 <csrabak(a)bol.com.br>: > > >> I expect you folks make the scheduling invitation giving the time in > UTC, so I can > > >> check my availability ;-) > > >> > > >> > > >> Em 04/12/2009 17:21, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com > > escreveu: > > >> > > >> > > >> why not? If skype is reachable from where we are, I have no problem > :) > > >> > > >> Ahh the time ;) Take into consideration the difference between your > time and our. > > >> > > >> Best, > > >> > > >> Mariano > > >> > > >> > > >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:52 PM, <csrabak(a)bol.com.br> wrote: > > >> > > >> Is there a means of joining via Skype and/or IRC? > > >> > > >> > > >> Em 04/12/2009 09:57, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > > escreveu: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Hi all > > >> > > >> I would like to organize a couple of coding parties around christmas. > > >> The 18 of december? is one possibility (even if I can only start at > 11h). > > >> So if some of you are close to lille during holidays we could have > fun coding > > >> together. > > >> > > >> I would like to organize a moose day too. I want to code what I have > in mind > > >> with CAnalyzer and mondrian. > > >> > > >> Stef > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Pharo-project mailing list > > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Pharo-project mailing list > > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Pharo-project mailing list > > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Lukas Renggli > > > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Dec. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] christmas coding parties?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Dec 5, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:39 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > ok we should pick some dates. > mariano can you launch a doodle? > > > Ok. So, it is 18h at what time ? 9 or 11? is this a pharo sprint or whatever? whatever :) > address ? We can either do it at the university or at my place but I have to check with my wife ;) > > Best, > > Mariano > > > > On Dec 4, 2009, at 9:39 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > > I would be in for an online-video-screensharing-pairprogramming-coding-party :-) > > > > Lukas > > > > 2009/12/4 <csrabak(a)bol.com.br>: > >> I expect you folks make the scheduling invitation giving the time in UTC, so I can > >> check my availability ;-) > >> > >> > >> Em 04/12/2009 17:21, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com > escreveu: > >> > >> > >> why not? If skype is reachable from where we are, I have no problem :) > >> > >> Ahh the time ;) Take into consideration the difference between your time and our. > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Mariano > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:52 PM, <csrabak(a)bol.com.br> wrote: > >> > >> Is there a means of joining via Skype and/or IRC? > >> > >> > >> Em 04/12/2009 09:57, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > escreveu: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi all > >> > >> I would like to organize a couple of coding parties around christmas. > >> The 18 of december? is one possibility (even if I can only start at 11h). > >> So if some of you are close to lille during holidays we could have fun coding > >> together. > >> > >> I would like to organize a moose day too. I want to code what I have in mind > >> with CAnalyzer and mondrian. > >> > >> Stef > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > > > -- > > Lukas Renggli > > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] How do I know which issues are resolved in each new release?

by Marcus Denker

On Dec 4, 2009, at 7:55 PM, csrabak(a)bol.com.br wrote: > Marcus, > > This brings a question to me: is there a sort of API or web service we could use (obviously > for calling from inside Pharo) to post at the Pharo's Twitter account? > > I surmise that doing that for the blog would be 'easier' :-) Hmm... twitter has a REST style API: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Twitter-API-Documentation This should not be too difficult to use from within Pharo... Marcus

Dec. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] christmas coding parties?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:39 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>wrote: > ok we should pick some dates. > mariano can you launch a doodle? > > Ok. So, it is 18h at what time ? 9 or 11? is this a pharo sprint or whatever? address ? Best, Mariano > > On Dec 4, 2009, at 9:39 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > > I would be in for an > online-video-screensharing-pairprogramming-coding-party :-) > > > > Lukas > > > > 2009/12/4 <csrabak(a)bol.com.br>: > >> I expect you folks make the scheduling invitation giving the time in > UTC, so I can > >> check my availability ;-) > >> > >> > >> Em 04/12/2009 17:21, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com > > escreveu: > >> > >> > >> why not? If skype is reachable from where we are, I have no problem :) > >> > >> Ahh the time ;) Take into consideration the difference between your > time and our. > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Mariano > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:52 PM, <csrabak(a)bol.com.br> wrote: > >> > >> Is there a means of joining via Skype and/or IRC? > >> > >> > >> Em 04/12/2009 09:57, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > > escreveu: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi all > >> > >> I would like to organize a couple of coding parties around christmas. > >> The 18 of december? is one possibility (even if I can only start at > 11h). > >> So if some of you are close to lille during holidays we could have fun > coding > >> together. > >> > >> I would like to organize a moose day too. I want to code what I have in > mind > >> with CAnalyzer and mondrian. > >> > >> Stef > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > > > -- > > Lukas Renggli > > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Dec. 5, 2009