December 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] checkForConversionMethods preference

by Alain Plantec

Hi all, I would like to know what is (was) this preference for and if it has to be kept. thanks a lot Alain

Dec. 7, 2009

[Pharo-project] New pharo images

by Damien Cassou

Based on 1.0 rc1 and 1.1 alpha: http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

Dec. 7, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] issue 794

by Damien Cassou

2009/12/7 Sean Allen <sean(a)monkeysnatchbanana.com>: > Using 64 bit debian lenny, I'm experiencing issue 794. > > The issue was closed but there doesn't seem to be any definitive how it was resolved for others. > Can someone give me an idea of what the fix is? > > I see one where upgrading to an unstable version of debian worked but I'm try to avoid that. I confirm that upgrading works but I don't know the other solutions. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

Dec. 7, 2009

[Pharo-project] issue 794

by Sean Allen

Using 64 bit debian lenny, I'm experiencing issue 794. The issue was closed but there doesn't seem to be any definitive how it was resolved for others. Can someone give me an idea of what the fix is? I see one where upgrading to an unstable version of debian worked but I'm try to avoid that.

Dec. 7, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] squeak VM 5.0

by John M McIntosh

Eliot and I spent 30 minutes chatting about what is wrong. The conclusion is we *think* we are doing the right thing, yet the Virtual Machine says the image is busted. So a quick fix is not apparent, and we'll dig more. On 2009-12-05, at 11:42 PM, John M McIntosh wrote: > > On 2009-12-05, at 9:46 PM, Laval Jannik wrote: > >>> I added >>> object class = BlockClosure ifTrue: >>> [(object instVarAt: 3) ifNotNil: >>> ["May need to adjust PC and startPC if changing wordSize..." >>> results at: 2 put: (block value: (object instVarAt: 2)+(self pcDeltaForMethod: object method) value: 2)]]. > > > Oops should be > > object class = BlockClosure ifTrue: > ["May need to adjust PC and startPC if changing wordSize..." > results at: 2 put: (block value: (object instVarAt: 2)+(self pcDeltaForMethod: object method) value: 2)]. > > Post your current change set so we can see > > However that just gives me, which is where I was earlier. > > > <PastedGraphic-2.tiff> -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===========================================================================

Dec. 7, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] EventInterceptor and MessageSendTree

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi HernÃ¡n, Can you describe a situation when you needed this? Alexandre On 6 Dec 2009, at 04:25, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > Dear all, > I've attached a little cool tool for intercepting Morphic events I > just resurrected today, from the class comments: > > This morph is a button which, when pressed, begins listening to the > hand's event stream. When an even of the appropriate type is > encountered, this morph intercepts it and traces the dispatch of the > event using MessageSendTree, and opens a SendTreeExplorer on the > results. This is useful for debugging parts of the UI process which > are otherwise difficult to trace. The eventType can be any of the > Morphic event types, but #mouseUp, #mouseDown, and #keystroke are by > far the most useful because they are the triggers for the majority of > actual UI activity. > > This is a list of morphic events to try: > > #mouseDown > #mouseMove > #mouseUp > #mouseOver > #mouseEnter > #mouseLeave > #mouseLeaveDragging > > #keystroke > #keyDown > #keyUp > > #unknown > #click > > To install it load first MessageSendTree. The original author is Jesse > Welton http://jwelton.v-space.org/squeak/ > > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > <MessageSendTree-hfm.1.mcz><EventInterceptor-hfm. > 1.mcz>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Good FFI examles?

by John M McIntosh

Sorry don't know the answer to that, try it? On 2009-12-06, at 2:27 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > John, > > Thanks! I see lots of pointers to structs; will leaving off the * create a directly embedded copy of a struct? > > Bill > > > -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===========================================================================

Dec. 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Good FFI examles?

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

John, Thanks! I see lots of pointers to structs; will leaving off the * create a directly embedded copy of a struct? Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of John M McIntosh Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 5:04 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Good FFI examles? Well you'll find that in the FFI calls in Sophie for doing macintosh file navigation services. On 2009-12-06, at 1:23 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Hello all, > > I am slowly getting access to metadata that I need to use to create structure definitions. Are there any good examples of FFI with complex structures, particularly with structs containing other structs as fields? > > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com =========================================================================== _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] about sluggines on linux

by John M McIntosh

Ok, well you don' t need to run special software. You just need to use a non-optimized VM The *worst* case is turn 32bit mode on, and use Rosetta I've put a non-optimized VM in the experimental folder/COCOA via http://smalltalkconsulting.com/squeak.html called Squeak V5 SLOW VERSION FOR TESTING DO NOT USE FOR GENERAL USE.app.zip That gives you something that is like 8 or 10 times slower than normal. Perhaps someone can run some benchmarks other than tinybenchmarks to confirm? 64bit mode, 32bit image '52805280 bytecodes/sec; 1763285 sends/sec' '55030094 bytecodes/sec; 1738242 sends/sec' '57040998 bytecodes/sec; 1704137 sends/sec' '57091882 bytecodes/sec; 1741615 sends/sec' '57040998 bytecodes/sec; 1736000 sends/sec' '56888888 bytecodes/sec; 1765598 sends/sec' '57193923 bytecodes/sec; 1749536 sends/sec' '57142857 bytecodes/sec; 1732649 sends/sec' '56487202 bytecodes/sec; 1722672 sends/sec' '55797733 bytecodes/sec; 1629865 sends/sec' 32bit mode via Get Info , 32bit image '62439024 bytecodes/sec; 1779601 sends/sec' '62439024 bytecodes/sec; 1780778 sends/sec' '63054187 bytecodes/sec; 1787873 sends/sec' '61895551 bytecodes/sec; 1796222 sends/sec' '62930186 bytecodes/sec; 1804649 sends/sec' '62439024 bytecodes/sec; 1818053 sends/sec' '62317429 bytecodes/sec; 1826687 sends/sec' '62930186 bytecodes/sec; 1831657 sends/sec' '63178677 bytecodes/sec; 1807071 sends/sec' '62015503 bytecodes/sec; 1815601 sends/sec' 32bit mode via Get Info , 32bit image, Rosette mode aka PowerPC emulation on MacIntel '38905775 bytecodes/sec; 1264497 sends/sec' '39191671 bytecodes/sec; 1265459 sends/sec' '39215686 bytecodes/sec; 1235396 sends/sec' '39384615 bytecodes/sec; 1241850 sends/sec' '39000609 bytecodes/sec; 1274179 sends/sec' '39384615 bytecodes/sec; 1256857 sends/sec' '39287906 bytecodes/sec; 1247435 sends/sec' '39825762 bytecodes/sec; 1238154 sends/sec' '39312039 bytecodes/sec; 1245568 sends/sec' '38787878 bytecodes/sec; 1260665 sends/sec' Normally, optimized 64bit mode, 32bit image CHEATING '433530906 bytecodes/sec; 13051576 sends/sec' '432432432 bytecodes/sec; 13042352 sends/sec' '433898305 bytecodes/sec; 13051576 sends/sec' '433530906 bytecodes/sec; 13042352 sends/sec' '433898305 bytecodes/sec; 12941745 sends/sec' '433898305 bytecodes/sec; 13023944 sends/sec' '414910858 bytecodes/sec; 12815922 sends/sec' '433898305 bytecodes/sec; 13005587 sends/sec' '433164128 bytecodes/sec; 13005587 sends/sec' '434266327 bytecodes/sec; 12444321 sends/sec' On 2009-12-06, at 2:58 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Ok excellent then. I should chekc because I have first generation powerbook around. > > On PC they have a tools that slow donw a computer to get the same power as an old one. >>> The conclusion is that we should continue to work on making it faster. >>> >>> Arthuro >>> using 1.1 >>> changing the theme >>> using StrikeFont installDejaVu >>> and setting up the fonts give a better feel >>> >>> Does anybody know a software slowing down a mac (because the problem is that >>> I'm not sure that I can run a closure VM on a old mac I have) >>> so that we could do some tests on slow machines? >>> >>> Stef >>> -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===========================================================================

Dec. 6, 2009

[Pharo-project] Preferences migration part4

by Alain Plantec

------------------ * new package Compiler-Kernel-SystemSettings * added a setting Parser class>>warningAllowed (Warns class variable) * added StandardFonts class>> setAllStandardFontsFromSpec: in replacement for Preferences class>> setDefaultFonts: * migrate "Compiler" group * migrate "Debug" group * Remove deprecated message in migrated Preferences method, instead, rewrite them in order to make them work with the setting framework SLICE-PreferencesMigrationPart4 is in InBox ------------------- Alain

Dec. 6, 2009