December 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] VMMaker in Pharo.

by arnaud Jean Baptiste

Sorry Mariano i don't have update the wiki of pharo, will do make that soon. If you want to run easily VMMaker i building a loader of VMMaker for pharo. on squeaksource: JBARepo VMMakerloader and run loadAndFix () It work, if you have any problem about it or any question, don't hesitate to ask. On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:38 AM, David T. Lewis wrote: > On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 11:46:45PM +0100, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:09 PM, David T. Lewis <lewis(a)mail.msen.com> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 11:53:00AM +0100, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>>> Hi! I need to load VMMaker and I was reading this link: >>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/BuildingAVMOnPharo >>>> >>>> I tried with the gofer script but it doesn't work in new Gofer version, >>> as I >>>> need to change add: for addPackage: >>>> There were also a problem with the ladrillos repo which was with lowcase >>>> instead of uppercase. The correct Gofer script to load VMMaker is: >>>> >>>> |gofer| >>>> >>>> "Create Gofer Object" >>>> gofer := Gofer new. >>>> >>>> "Load the FFI package" >>>> ScriptLoader loadFFI. >>>> >>>> "add the Speech packages" >>>> gofer squeaksource: 'Ladrillos'; >>>> addPackage: 'Speech-Klatt'. >>>> >>>> "add VMMaker Packages" >>>> gofer squeaksource: 'VMMaker'; >>>> addPackage:'VMMaker'. >>>> >>>> "add Alien Support Packages" >>>> gofer squeaksource: 'Alien'; >>>> addPackage:'Alien-VMMaker-Support'. >>>> >>>> " Load " >>>> gofer load. >>> >>> You may want to refer to this configuration map for some other packages >>> to load with VMMaker: >>> >>> http://squeaksource.com/VMMaker/update-dtl.2.mcm >>> >> >> Thanks Dave. It sounds like and interesting project to create a >> ConfigurationOf for Metacello. Or at least, we need a ScriptLoader >> loadVMMaker. >> >> So, we should load all the packages of that link ? Sorry for my ignorance, >> but what do those packages add? I mean, with the script I used, it is >> broken? I can still use VMMaker? what additional features do I have with the >> rest of the packages? > > It is just a configuration map for MonticelloConfigurations. It is used > when you evaluate "VMMaker updateFromServer", but it only works if you > have MonticelloConfigurations in your image. But the format is very simple > so you can just read it from http://squeaksource.com/VMMaker/update-dtl.2.mcm > to figure out what the packages are. > > It would be good if we could have something similar for Pharo, so > if you can make this work with Metacello or one of the loaders for > Pharo, that would be great. > > The list of packages came from the "recipe" that Andreas uses for building > Windows VMs, plus packages that I added (OSProcessPlugin etc). I know > there are some missing from the configuration, but at least it's a start :) > > Dave > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 8, 2009

[Pharo-project] systemwindow grabbing fix

by Alain Plantec

SLICE-Issue420-SystemWindowAboutToBeGrabbedBy-Try2 is in InBox ------------------- * fix the systemwindow grab problem (when the user grab a window from outside the window title bar) ------------------- Alain

Dec. 8, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] New User Experience Suggestion for 1.0

by Sean Allen

People are far more likely to start just by downloading Pharo. Requiring the newbie to go read the book before doing anything isn't very welcoming. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>wrote: > The counter argument is that PBE is readily available and very well > written. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto: > pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of > csrabak(a)bol.com.br > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:46 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] New User Experience Suggestion for 1.0 > > +1 > > It should not be that dangerous, it's only matter of saving an image with a > workspace with the text in it. > > -- > Cesar Rabak > > > Em 07/12/2009 21:51, Tim Mackinnon < tamackinnon(a)gmail.com > escreveu: > > > Guys - do you think you might consider bringing back the little Readme > Workspace in the final 1.0 image (or maybe 1.1)? > > For new users - the blank screen is a bit intimidating, and with Pharo > looking pretty good these days - I think new users are tempted to try it out > - however its not easy to get started with a blank screen. > > I recall ages ago (and maybe this was the old Squeak image) there was a > workspace with a few instructions - like the url to launch your web browser > against - and a comment with the username and password for administering > seaside. It's probably handy to have the url for Pharo by example as well as > the Seaside online book. And finally a few doits and tips for launching a > Class browser and common preferences to consider changing. > > I'm not sure if this is easy to do in your distribution script (hopefully > it is a script) - and I also don't want to introduce anything risky into 1.0 > (I am constantly anxious that some of the changes whizzing by are going into > 1.0 - and stability is of the essence to get a good solid release out). But > certainly it would make the initial new user experience that little bit > better. > > Tim > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Dec. 8, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: Re: Cannot update behind a proxy]

by Alain Plantec

Nicolas Cellier a Ã©crit : >>> <worldmenu>/System/Settings... >>> >> Thanks, case of blindness, I have selected <worldmenu>/System/Preferences... >> OK, you don't want to bother with old browser, so your plan is to let >> it rot until the new one is fully operational, isn't it? >> I'm decided to fix it so that it turns usable again until we decide to remove the Preferences class. Which is not for tomorrow I guess. >> Nicolas > > Oops, I did not finish my message... > I suggest the menu being renamed 'System/Preferences... (deprecated)' in between > I take it. Thanks Alain > Nicolas > >

Dec. 8, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] New User Experience Suggestion for 1.0

by Stephen Taylor

Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > The counter argument is that PBE is readily available and very well written. It is, but I think it's well worth considering what people think in their first couple of seconds of exposure to a new product - especially something like Smalltalk where people may well be looking at it only from idle curiosity. When I think how quickly and arbitrarily I can reject a game that someone's spent three years sweating blood over... Steve

Dec. 8, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] New User Experience Suggestion for 1.0

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

The counter argument is that PBE is readily available and very well written. -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of csrabak(a)bol.com.br Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:46 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] New User Experience Suggestion for 1.0 +1 It should not be that dangerous, it's only matter of saving an image with a workspace with the text in it. -- Cesar Rabak Em 07/12/2009 21:51, Tim Mackinnon < tamackinnon(a)gmail.com > escreveu: Guys - do you think you might consider bringing back the little Readme Workspace in the final 1.0 image (or maybe 1.1)? For new users - the blank screen is a bit intimidating, and with Pharo looking pretty good these days - I think new users are tempted to try it out - however its not easy to get started with a blank screen. I recall ages ago (and maybe this was the old Squeak image) there was a workspace with a few instructions - like the url to launch your web browser against - and a comment with the username and password for administering seaside. It's probably handy to have the url for Pharo by example as well as the Seaside online book. And finally a few doits and tips for launching a Class browser and common preferences to consider changing. I'm not sure if this is easy to do in your distribution script (hopefully it is a script) - and I also don't want to introduce anything risky into 1.0 (I am constantly anxious that some of the changes whizzing by are going into 1.0 - and stability is of the essence to get a good solid release out). But certainly it would make the initial new user experience that little bit better. Tim _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 8, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Can't browse slices in Inbox

by Martin McClure

Martin McClure wrote: > In a Monticello browser on the PharoInbox, I haven't been able to browse > slices. When I press the Browse button I get a browser "Snapshot of > SLICE...". In the class category pane the only thing listed is > '*Extensions' and that has nothing in it. > > Is this a bug, or am I going about this wrong? The latter. I see now -- a slice is truly empty. I was being confused by an earlier description of "slice" in MC2. -Martin

Dec. 8, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] MetacelloRepository is online

by Esteban Lorenzano

btw, Steph, Marcus, Adrian and Michael, as "benevolent dictators" of Pharo, I made all of you administrators on MetacelloRepository project, so you can make anything you want with it... even kick me off :) On 2009-12-07 23:04:07 -0300, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> said: > Hi, > I created the project MetacelloRepository as a centralized repository > for meta-packages, and started uploading metacello configurations. > > MCHttpRepository > location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository' > user: '' > password: '' > > Currently, I uploaded three projects: > > 1) ConfigurationOfFFI > 2) ConfigurationOfSqueakDBX > 3) ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX > > The whole idea of this is to have a project catalog working (like > apt-get), so I encourage you to use it! > > The tools to manage on a fashion way this repository are comming, > please be patient :) > > Cheers, > Esteban

Dec. 8, 2009

[Pharo-project] MetacelloRepository is online

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, I created the project MetacelloRepository as a centralized repository for meta-packages, and started uploading metacello configurations. MCHttpRepository location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository' user: '' password: '' Currently, I uploaded three projects: 1) ConfigurationOfFFI 2) ConfigurationOfSqueakDBX 3) ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX The whole idea of this is to have a project catalog working (like apt-get), so I encourage you to use it! The tools to manage on a fashion way this repository are comming, please be patient :) Cheers, Esteban

Dec. 8, 2009

[Pharo-project] Is there in Pharo a class with the functionality of PrintingConverter?

by csrabak＠bol.com.br

I think it is specific in VW (I don't remember in Dolphin) but for formating numbers in strings, etc. like this class does. Tried looking for classes and methods (w/method finder) e/o success! -- Cesar Rabak

Dec. 8, 2009