December 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] One-Click Experience ...

by Marcus Denker

On Dec 15, 2009, at 8:19 AM, GeertClaes wrote: > > Really like the one-click experience, great!!! Looks and feels so much > better. Maybe the image also needs to include Seaside, AIDAWeb, Magritte > and Pier though no? > We should update that image and make it the default.... I will look into that. > ps. It would be nice to see Pharo use a "Pharo VM" instead of the Squeak VM > (I am on Mac) though :) I once fixed that in a later image. I will look into building a new one-click soon. Marcus

Dec. 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Let's hire a Pharo developer

by Michael van der Gulik

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Guido Stepken <gstepken(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > I could make out a few "trends" in software technology since some time: > > * Parallel computing. (Smalltalk rather has a structure of a human brain, no > chance to parallelize, wrong algorithms behind) Untrue. Smalltalk, the language, makes it really easy to write concurrent programs. Unfortunately, there's no Smalltalk VM which can run well on multiple CPU cores. GemStone/S comes close. Gulik. -- http://gulik.pbwiki.com/

Dec. 15, 2009

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11103

by Marcus Denker

11103 ----- Issue 1392: Adapted SUnit TestRunner can not be integrated easily in environment Thanks, Bart Gauquie Issue 1591: do we need #forgetDoIts? (part two:remove) --> #forgetDoIts should have never be called outside the kernel anyway. Marcus

Dec. 15, 2009

[Pharo-project] One-Click Experience ...

by GeertClaes

Really like the one-click experience, great!!! Looks and feels so much better. Maybe the image also needs to include Seaside, AIDAWeb, Magritte and Pier though no? ps. It would be nice to see Pharo use a "Pharo VM" instead of the Squeak VM (I am on Mac) though :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/One-Click-Experience-tp4168628p4168628.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ProjectLauncher readDocumentAtStartup

by Alain Plantec

Issue 1607 <http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1607>: ProjectLauncher readDocumentAtStartup a setting argh, it should be ProjectLauncher readDocumentAtStartup needs a setting. not awake enough Alain

Dec. 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ProjectLauncher readDocumentAtStartup

by Alain Plantec

Michael Roberts a Ã©crit : > Hi, this method was changed recently I think probably by the > preferences work (Alain Plantec). It used to be a pref. Now it is hard > coded to false. > Hi Michael, ok, there should a class variable and a setter for that. > Is there a reason? no, its an issue. It will be fixed as soon as possible. Cheers Alain > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >

Dec. 15, 2009

[Pharo-project] ProjectLauncher readDocumentAtStartup

by Michael Roberts

Hi, this method was changed recently I think probably by the preferences work (Alain Plantec). It used to be a pref. Now it is hard coded to false. Is there a reason? It prevents scripts being executed on the command line. It causes the Mason example to not work in Pharo, and a bunch of other stuff to break. Is there a replacement for loading code on the command line? otherwise this needs changing, perhaps you did not know it is registered in the auto start mechanism. thanks, Mike

Dec. 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Syntax highlighting changed in 10500?

by Alain Plantec

Mariano Martinez Peck a Ã©crit : > > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Simon Denier <Simon.Denier(a)inria.fr > <mailto:Simon.Denier@inria.fr>> wrote: > > > On 14 dÃ©c. 2009, at 19:50, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > > The syntax highlighting should be made a preference with our > shiny new > > preference framework. > > > > I don't want any other coloring, I am using that color scheme > for over > > 15 years now. > > > > Power to the people! > > Yep, let's do some preferences for that. How do we start? :) > > > Maybe creating a issue and cc alain :) Hello ! I guess we can do that when the core will not contain any Preferences reference and my package comments reviewed and the settings I've coded also documented and a documentation written I will be happy to help. :) For now, the core still contains a lot of Preferences references :( Alain

Dec. 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Let's hire a Pharo developer

by Andrey Larionov

IMHO Bounty Hunting is better model. It saves spirit of non commercial development, but allows some stimulations and complex features (which is not a part of roadmap) development. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 13:52, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> For Squeak/Etoys/Scratch it's quite clear. Teaching programming to children. >> IMHO, there is no better software to teach childen. Alan Kay as community >> organizer and figurehead leading a crowd of followers. There is a community >> of people, driving that stuff slowly, but steadily forward. > > I will not comment that one :) > >> In germany its HPI investing lots into building up knowledge in >> Smalltalk/Squeak/EToys. Money comes from SAP founder. Very idealistic man. > > I do not think so. Money does not come for that. Now that students develop > etoy projects > >> The situation of Pharo reminds me a bit of Dolphin Smalltalk: Where's the >> customer who urgently needs such a product? >> >> There are a lot of free competitors around: Smalltalk/X, GNU, Little, Vista >> ... > > > Little, Vista really :) > I let them to you :) > >> It's not easy to explain the differences of concepts behind those >> smalltalks. But it's much harder to explain, why we need to invest more time >> and sink more money into a (commercially) "sinking boat" of technology. > > don't worry we will succeed. > ... > >> But: I still can't figure out, where exactly Pharo or Smalltalk as software >> technology could occupy a vacant market niche or even set standards. > > > Of course if you compare Pharo with system that got multimillion dollars. > Now our goal is to make sure that people will be able to make business > with an open-source smalltalk and that we will start to rethink the infrastructure. > > Now we were talking about 120 Euros per year!!!! > The basic shareware software I buy for my machine cost 60 Euros. > > Stef > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Dec. 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] This interpreter (vers. 6502) cannot read image file (vers. 6504).

by Monty Kamath

The latest version of the vm doesn't work on CentOS 4 because it requires glibc 2.4. Is there an older version of the vm that will work? If so could you point me to it? My VPS is on CentOS 4 which doesn't have glibc 2.4 so I get this error: ./squeakvm: /lib/tls/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by ./squeakvm) The VPS support guys tell me not to upgrade glibc because it will corrupt the container. I think this means that I either need to switch to a CentOS 5 container or find an older vm that doesnt' require glibc 2.4. Thanks for any help! Monty Levente Uzonyi-2 wrote: > > On Sun, 13 Dec 2009, Monty Kamath wrote: > >> >> My bad. I'm using Squeak-3.10-1.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar which is an old >> VM. >> >> Will this old vm work with old images Squeak images? >> > > Yes it will, just like the new one, so it's safe to use the newer vm. > > > Levente > >> Thanks, >> Monty >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://n2.nabble.com/This-interpreter-vers-6502-cannot-read-image-file-vers… >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/This-interpreter-vers-6502-cannot-read-image-file-vers… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 14, 2009