December 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] â¬40 and counting..., come on we can do it!

by Martin Sandiford

I've been lurking here for a little while, and I think this is a very interesting idea. I'd also be happy to support it. Martin On 15/12/2009, at 7:34 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> People so far that agreed on supporting the Pharo project with â¬10/ >> month: >> >> Alex Schenkman >> Marcus Denker >> Francois Stephany >> Mariano Martinez Peck > Me > > Now we should have a way to get a bill since in that case our team > could buy one or two licenses at 120 Euros per year. > > Stef >> >> >> Original thread: >> http://n2.nabble.com/Let-s-hire-a-Pharo-developer-tp4161222p4161222.html >> Let's hire a developer >> -- >> View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/40-and-counting-come-on-we-can-do-it-tp4167194p4167194… >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] One-Click Experience ...

by Henrik Johansen

On Dec 15, 2009, at 9:37 07AM, GeertClaes wrote: > > > > Marcus Denker-3 wrote: >> >> >>> Really like the one-click experience, great!!! Looks and feels so much >>> better. Maybe the image also needs to include Seaside, AIDAWeb, Magritte >>> and Pier though no? >> >> We should update that image and make it the default.... I will look into >> that. >> >> > > How can I tell the one-click to use a different image file? Right-click -> Show package contents For Windows: - Edit last line in Pharo.ini to point to a different image For Linux: - Edit Pharo.sh For OSX: - In Contents/Info.plist set SqueakImageName to the your new image (either absolute or relative to the Contents directory) If you leave it empty or provide an invalid image name, the usual "open an image"-dialog pops up when you start it. Cheers, Henry

Dec. 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] This interpreter (vers. 6502) cannot read image file (vers. 6504).

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi monty may be you should ask in the squeak-vm mailing-list. Now you should pay attention since the vm changed because of closures. Stef On Dec 14, 2009, at 11:39 PM, Monty Kamath wrote: > > The latest version of the vm doesn't work on CentOS 4 because it requires > glibc 2.4. > Is there an older version of the vm that will work? If so could you point > me to it? > > My VPS is on CentOS 4 which doesn't have glibc 2.4 so I get this error: > ./squeakvm: /lib/tls/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required > by ./squeakvm) > > The VPS support guys tell me not to upgrade glibc because it will corrupt > the container. > > I think this means that I either need to switch to a CentOS 5 container or > find an older vm that doesnt' require glibc 2.4. > > Thanks for any help! > > Monty > > > > > > Levente Uzonyi-2 wrote: >> >> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009, Monty Kamath wrote: >> >>> >>> My bad. I'm using Squeak-3.10-1.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar which is an old >>> VM. >>> >>> Will this old vm work with old images Squeak images? >>> >> >> Yes it will, just like the new one, so it's safe to use the newer vm. >> >> >> Levente >> >>> Thanks, >>> Monty >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://n2.nabble.com/This-interpreter-vers-6502-cannot-read-image-file-vers… >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/This-interpreter-vers-6502-cannot-read-image-file-vers… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] â¬40 and counting..., come on we can do it!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> People so far that agreed on supporting the Pharo project with â¬10/month: > > Alex Schenkman > Marcus Denker > Francois Stephany > Mariano Martinez Peck Me Now we should have a way to get a bill since in that case our team could buy one or two licenses at 120 Euros per year. Stef > > > Original thread: > http://n2.nabble.com/Let-s-hire-a-Pharo-developer-tp4161222p4161222.html > Let's hire a developer > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/40-and-counting-come-on-we-can-do-it-tp4167194p4167194… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ProjectLauncher readDocumentAtStartup

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

BTW projectLauncher is a really funny class to support reading in .st files.... So one of these days we will have to kill it but keep the file loading aspect Stef On Dec 15, 2009, at 7:43 AM, Alain Plantec wrote: > Issue 1607 <http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1607>: > ProjectLauncher readDocumentAtStartup a setting > argh, it should be ProjectLauncher readDocumentAtStartup needs a setting. > not awake enough > Alain > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] stream nile fixes?

by Damien Cassou

I will answer part of your questions and let Cyrille answers the others: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Why does NSTDecoder peek answers nil when atEnd ? Cannot nil be a > regular answer ? because it is what core streams are doing and I wanted to mimic core streams to be able to replace them easily. Once replaced, we will be able to change things. > Why NSBuffer use hardcoded buffer length of 100 ? Is this just an example ? > I ask because buffering is a key to efficiency both for files and TextConverter. this is a stupid proof of concept implementation that we will have to change when we decide to do something serious with it. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

Dec. 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] One-Click Experience ...

by GeertClaes

Marcus Denker-3 wrote: > > >> Really like the one-click experience, great!!! Looks and feels so much >> better. Maybe the image also needs to include Seaside, AIDAWeb, Magritte >> and Pier though no? > > We should update that image and make it the default.... I will look into > that. > > How can I tell the one-click to use a different image file? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/One-Click-Experience-tp4168628p4168839.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Let's hire a Pharo developer

by Stefan Marr

On 15 Dec 2009, at 08:32, Michael van der Gulik wrote: > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Guido Stepken <gstepken(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >> I could make out a few "trends" in software technology since some time: >> >> * Parallel computing. (Smalltalk rather has a structure of a human brain, no >> chance to parallelize, wrong algorithms behind) > > Untrue. Smalltalk, the language, makes it really easy to write > concurrent programs. Unfortunately, there's no Smalltalk VM which can > run well on multiple CPU cores. GemStone/S comes close. Well, the debugging tools do ****, ehm, well: "printf" is the most reliable helper. At least in the context of Squeak/Pharo. Anyway, there is a VM, not quite stable and ready for production use, but for me, it works: See: http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1640134.1640149 Now it even runs on boring x86 chips, tested here with 16 hyperthreads. Well, and if there are people ask David for it, IBM Research might want to fully open source it... Best Stefan -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 3956 Fax: +32 2 629 3525

Dec. 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] One-Click Experience ...

by GeertClaes

Marcus Denker-3 wrote: > > >> ps. It would be nice to see Pharo use a "Pharo VM" instead of the Squeak >> VM >> (I am on Mac) though :) > > I once fixed that in a later image. > > I will look into building a new one-click soon. > > Marcus > I noticed too late that the Pharo one-click actually does say "Pharo" and not "Squeak VM". I was switching between the Pharo and Seaside one-click images :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/One-Click-Experience-tp4168628p4168753.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 15, 2009

[Pharo-project] Smalltalk/seaside job

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> > From: Friedrich Dominicus <frido(a)q-software-solutions.de> > Date: December 15, 2009 6:59:23 AM GMT+01:00 > To: stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Where to find Squeak/Seaside specialists? > Well I'm looking for someone knowing Seaside which may help me with porting an > Access based solution into the Web. What else should I announce? > > A first step would be to build a module which can be used to send > BMU.XML files, digitally signed, via OSCI to a place called ZKS, the > data must be kept in an electronical register. > > Another step would be writing a module for weighing machines. Maybe a > module for fleet management would be nice to have also. Howerver I just > can start somewhere and I though a clear defined module would be good. > > > Regards > Friedrich > -- > Q-Software Solutions GmbH; Sitz: Bruchsal; Registergericht: Mannheim > Registriernummer: HRB232138; Geschaeftsfuehrer: Friedrich Dominicus

Dec. 15, 2009