December 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] need hunter to kill the double paste bug.

by Michael Rueger

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > sorry....here it is Thanks! But... could it be you used keyboard shortcuts to open the windows and move around the UI? That would overwrite the "interesting" key events in the log... Michael

Dec. 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [newbee] How do I save the contents of a Workspace?

by Ramiro Diaz Trepat

I really miss that feature. In my oppinion it is very useful when you regularly use different images, or when you frequently rebuild your development image from newer versions. Also, I wonder if the Package Browser should be removed completely since it does not even open now when you select it as preferred. Cheers r -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of StÃ©phane Ducasse Sent: 16 December 2009 12:07 To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [newbee] How do I save the contents of a Workspace? for me it was political/educational to remove it. I saw too many people having expressions in workspace and not in class methods (not versioned with the code). because if this is really important why not put it in a class method? Then you load the code and of course you do not get the magic example beacuse they were in the wonderfull scripts left in the other images..... Stef On Dec 16, 2009, at 12:51 PM, CÃ©drick BÃ©ler wrote: > I think this is a valuable feature. > > Should we save in a particular file extension (.wst ? or simply text files ?) so that we can also have load opening from a a list of files of that format. This would be nice for tutorials instead of saving workspace content in a method. > > CÃ©drick > > 2009/12/16 alesch <alex(a)schenkman.info> > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:45, Damien Cassou [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:29 AM, alesch <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I remember I used a menu item in Squeak, but I cannot find in Pharo. > > You can't. Do you misss that feature? > > Yes I do. > > > View this message in context: Re: [Pharo-project] [newbee] How do I save the contents of a Workspace? > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project This email is confidential and subject to important disclaimers and conditions including on offers for the purchase or sale of securities, accuracy and completeness of information, viruses, confidentiality, legal privilege, and legal entity disclaimers, available at http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures/email.

Dec. 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] Stuff

by Johan Fabry

On 16 Dec 2009, at 07:15, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > Guys let us continue build a shiny future this is more fun than ego > problems. > My goal with pharo is > - to create a world where people can make a living with an open- > source smalltalk. > - make it credible to the outside world (you know python, ruby, > lua, java....) > - make sure that we can adapt to the future changes > - be the substrate of people new inventions > - learn and expand my knowledge I am very happy that you guys are working on Pharo. I hope to be able to create shiny new inventions on top of that, contribute to the substrate when I can (hopefully not just by nagging at people ;-) ), and I am making publicity in multiple places. (AOSD conf demo of AspectMaps in Pharo coming up! ) > PS: I should not have forwarded this mail, I was dreaming about a > better world but it does not > exist so let us continue Many of us dream these things, that's why we are doing the work that we are doing. It's good to see that I am not alone in that, so yes you should send these kinds of mails. -- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Dec. 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] need hunter to kill the double paste bug.

by Mariano Martinez Peck

sorry....here it is On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Ok...I could reproduce it...I attach an screenshot with the inspector open > in both objects. > > does this help? > > Cheers, > > Mariano > > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck < > marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> yes, it worked :) >> >> Now I have to wait until the double paste appear! >> >> 2009/12/16 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> >>> yes it seems that there is a problem :) >>> >>> >>> Houston? >>> >>> it should be an handMorph >>> >>> sendKeyboardEvent: anEvent >>> "Send the event to the morph currently holding the focus, or if >>> none to >>> the owner of the hand." >>> ServiceShortcuts handleKeystroke: anEvent. >>> >>> LastEvents size > 10 >>> ifTrue: [LastEvents removeFirst]. >>> LastEvents add: anEvent clone. >>> >>> ^ self >>> sendEvent: anEvent >>> focus: self keyboardFocus >>> clear: [self keyboardFocus: nil] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> tell me if this one works >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>> >>> > When I try to file in the .ch I get a sintax error >>> > >>> > Nothing more expected ->sendKeyboardEvent: anEvent >>> >>> > "Send the event to the morph currently holding the focus, or if >>> none to >>> > the owner of the hand." >>> > ServiceShortcuts handleKeystroke: anEvent. >>> > >>> > LastEvents size > 10 >>> > ifTrue: [LastEvents removeFirst]. >>> > LastEvents add: anEvent clone. >>> > >>> > ^ self >>> > sendEvent: anEvent >>> > focus: self keyboardFocus >>> > clear: [self keyboardFocus: nil] >>> > >>> > >>> > stef, did it work for you? >>> > >>> > >>> > 2009/12/16 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >>> > > Hi all, >>> > > >>> > > attached a little patch to capture events and paste buffer. >>> > > >>> > > If you encounter a double paste please take a look at >>> > > LastClipPaste and LastEvents. >>> > > >>> > > If this doesn't provide any clue, I will work out a more aggressive >>> tracing approach. >>> > > >>> > > Didn't send it to the list as it patches into system methods. >>> > >>> > So as mike says pay attention this is hackish :) >>> > > >>> > > Michael >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Pharo-project mailing list >>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Pharo-project mailing list >>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >

Dec. 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] need hunter to kill the double paste bug.

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Ok...I could reproduce it...I attach an screenshot with the inspector open in both objects. does this help? Cheers, Mariano On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > yes, it worked :) > > Now I have to wait until the double paste appear! > > 2009/12/16 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > >> yes it seems that there is a problem :) >> >> >> Houston? >> >> it should be an handMorph >> >> sendKeyboardEvent: anEvent >> "Send the event to the morph currently holding the focus, or if >> none to >> the owner of the hand." >> ServiceShortcuts handleKeystroke: anEvent. >> >> LastEvents size > 10 >> ifTrue: [LastEvents removeFirst]. >> LastEvents add: anEvent clone. >> >> ^ self >> sendEvent: anEvent >> focus: self keyboardFocus >> clear: [self keyboardFocus: nil] >> >> >> >> >> tell me if this one works >> >> >> >> On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >> > When I try to file in the .ch I get a sintax error >> > >> > Nothing more expected ->sendKeyboardEvent: anEvent >> >> > "Send the event to the morph currently holding the focus, or if none >> to >> > the owner of the hand." >> > ServiceShortcuts handleKeystroke: anEvent. >> > >> > LastEvents size > 10 >> > ifTrue: [LastEvents removeFirst]. >> > LastEvents add: anEvent clone. >> > >> > ^ self >> > sendEvent: anEvent >> > focus: self keyboardFocus >> > clear: [self keyboardFocus: nil] >> > >> > >> > stef, did it work for you? >> > >> > >> > 2009/12/16 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> > > Hi all, >> > > >> > > attached a little patch to capture events and paste buffer. >> > > >> > > If you encounter a double paste please take a look at >> > > LastClipPaste and LastEvents. >> > > >> > > If this doesn't provide any clue, I will work out a more aggressive >> tracing approach. >> > > >> > > Didn't send it to the list as it patches into system methods. >> > >> > So as mike says pay attention this is hackish :) >> > > >> > > Michael >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >

Dec. 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [newbee] How do I save the contents of a Workspace?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

for me it was political/educational to remove it. I saw too many people having expressions in workspace and not in class methods (not versioned with the code). because if this is really important why not put it in a class method? Then you load the code and of course you do not get the magic example beacuse they were in the wonderfull scripts left in the other images..... Stef On Dec 16, 2009, at 12:51 PM, CÃ©drick BÃ©ler wrote: > I think this is a valuable feature. > > Should we save in a particular file extension (.wst ? or simply text files ?) so that we can also have load opening from a a list of files of that format. This would be nice for tutorials instead of saving workspace content in a method. > > CÃ©drick > > 2009/12/16 alesch <alex(a)schenkman.info> > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:45, Damien Cassou [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:29 AM, alesch <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I remember I used a menu item in Squeak, but I cannot find in Pharo. > > You can't. Do you misss that feature? > > Yes I do. > > > View this message in context: Re: [Pharo-project] [newbee] How do I save the contents of a Workspace? > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [newbee] How do I save the contents of a Workspace?

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

I think this is a valuable feature. Should we save in a particular file extension (.wst ? or simply text files ?) so that we can also have load opening from a a list of files of that format. This would be nice for tutorials instead of saving workspace content in a method. CÃ©drick 2009/12/16 alesch <alex(a)schenkman.info> > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:45, Damien Cassou [via Smalltalk] <[hidden > email]<http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4174972&i=0> > > wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:29 AM, alesch <[hidden email]<http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4174806&i=0>> >> wrote: >> > I remember I used a menu item in Squeak, but I cannot find in Pharo. >> >> You can't. Do you misss that feature? >> >> Yes I do. > > > ------------------------------ > View this message in context: Re: [Pharo-project] [newbee] How do I save > the contents of a Workspace?<http://n2.nabble.com/newbee-How-do-I-save-the-contents-of-a-Workspace-tp417…> > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive<http://n2.nabble.com/Pharo-Smalltalk-f2305563.html>at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Dec. 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [newbee] How do I save the contents of a Workspace?

by alesch

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:45, Damien Cassou [via Smalltalk] < ml-node+4174806-1407633224(a)n2.nabble.com<ml-node%2B4174806-1407633224(a)n2.nabble.com> > wrote: > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:29 AM, alesch <[hidden email]<http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4174806&i=0>> > wrote: > > I remember I used a menu item in Squeak, but I cannot find in Pharo. > > You can't. Do you misss that feature? > > Yes I do. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/newbee-How-do-I-save-the-contents-of-a-Workspace-tp417… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] EventInterceptor and MessageSendTree

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Hi Alex, Sorry for the too late reply, I was really busy. Momentarily I'm testing with a simple grid to show the recorded routes, for example, "How to save a Package in Monticello" or "How to create a Seaside root component". But this is work in progress and it will take some time to complete. Cheers, HernÃ¡n 2009/12/9 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: > Looks good! Do you visualize those landmarked routes? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 7 Dec 2009, at 18:25, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > >> Hi Alex, >> Â Of course, I'm using it to observe what's the best place to hook an >> interceptor (like a method wrapper) for a wayfinder tool I'm >> developing, i.e. modeling conceptual route knowledge and then >> replaying landmarked routes for learning purposes. Implementing a >> keylogger could be another interesting place to start using this tool >> as you may see all the possible methods to intercept a keystroke. >> Â Concerning debugging I didn't experimented, but maybe a situation >> where a click freezes the image...IIRC there was a bug in Pharo trying >> to grab the world and then releasing the attached world... now is >> somewhat closed but is a possible scenario to see the stack trace. >> Cheers, >> >> HernÃ¡n >> >> 2009/12/6 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >>> Hi HernÃ¡n, >>> >>> Can you describe a situation when you needed this? >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On 6 Dec 2009, at 04:25, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: >>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> Â I've attached a little cool tool for intercepting Morphic events I >>>> just resurrected today, from the class comments: >>>> >>>> This morph is a button which, when pressed, begins listening to the >>>> hand's event stream. Â When an even of the appropriate type is >>>> encountered, this morph intercepts it and traces the dispatch of the >>>> event using MessageSendTree, and opens a SendTreeExplorer on the >>>> results. Â This is useful for debugging parts of the UI process which >>>> are otherwise difficult to trace. The eventType can be any of the >>>> Morphic event types, but #mouseUp, #mouseDown, and #keystroke are by >>>> far the most useful because they are the triggers for the majority >>>> of >>>> actual UI activity. >>>> >>>> This is a list of morphic events to try: >>>> >>>> #mouseDown >>>> #mouseMove >>>> #mouseUp >>>> #mouseOver >>>> #mouseEnter >>>> #mouseLeave >>>> #mouseLeaveDragging >>>> >>>> #keystroke >>>> #keyDown >>>> #keyUp >>>> >>>> #unknown >>>> #click >>>> >>>> To install it load first MessageSendTree. The original author is >>>> Jesse >>>> Welton http://jwelton.v-space.org/squeak/ >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> HernÃ¡n >>>> <MessageSendTree-hfm.1.mcz><EventInterceptor-hfm. >>>> 1.mcz>_______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel Â http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel Â http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Dec. 16, 2009

[Pharo-project] [BUG] [ :a | ] value: 1

by Lukas Renggli

Hi Eliot While working on a way to use the RB-AST with the standard compiler I think I found a problem in your code. To reproduce evaluate the following expression: [ :a | ] value: 1 According to my understanding that should return nil, not the first argument 1. The generated bytecode is: pushTemp: 0 blockReturn I think it should be: pushConstant nil blockReturn Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Dec. 16, 2009