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Re: [Pharo-project] Underscore assignments

by Igor Stasenko

+1 2009/11/4 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>: > +10 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Lukas Renggli > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:25 AM > To: Pharo Development > Subject: [Pharo-project] Underscore assignments > > I wonder if we should throw a deprecated message in Pharo 1.0 when somebody tries to compile a method with an underscore assignment? I would like to make it possible to use underscore characters in selectors and identifiers in Pharo 1.1. > > Cheers, > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Nov. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Underscore assignments

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

+10 -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Lukas Renggli Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:25 AM To: Pharo Development Subject: [Pharo-project] Underscore assignments I wonder if we should throw a deprecated message in Pharo 1.0 when somebody tries to compile a method with an underscore assignment? I would like to make it possible to use underscore characters in selectors and identifiers in Pharo 1.1. Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Nov. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] gofer cannot load if the package name not well-formed.

by arnaud Jean Baptiste

that work thank a lot. On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:53 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > Sorry, I forgot to merge the changes. Please try again to update Gofer > > Gofer gofer update > > and then your load script should work. > > Lukas > > 2009/11/4 arnaud Jean Baptiste <jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com>: >> Now, yes >> i have try to update gofer. >> and that alway return the same exception : >> >> 'subscript is out of bounds: 1' >> >> >> On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> >>> Hi Jean, >>> >>> did you try to update to the latest version of Gofer from >>> <http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/flair>. >>> >>> Gofer gofer update >>> >>> I noticed a similar problem with other malformed package names and >>> probably already fixed the issue. >>> >>> Lukas >>> >>> 2009/11/4 arnaud Jean Baptiste <jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com>: >>>> hi, >>>> My named is Arnaud Jean Baptiste, i work with VMMaker and, i have >>>> try to >>>> load VMMaker via Gofer on Pharo (severals versions of the image, >>>> rc, alpha, >>>> dev). >>>> and then the : >>>> when i load the VMMaker package gofer don't find any version and >>>> raise a >>>> exception. >>>> The code: >>>> >>>> Gofer new squeaksource: 'VMMaker'; >>>> addPackage: 'VMMaker'; >>>> load. >>>> >>>> raise a unbound exception. >>>> i have open a issue : http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1397 >>>> I can reproduce the problem with another project like balloon3D >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lukas Renggli >>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Nov. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Underscore assignments

by Johan Brichau

yes please! On 04 Nov 2009, at 09:49, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > +1 > > > -- > GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ---------------------------- Johan Brichau johan.brichau(a)uclouvain.be

Nov. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] gofer cannot load if the package name not well-formed.

by Lukas Renggli

Sorry, I forgot to merge the changes. Please try again to update Gofer Gofer gofer update and then your load script should work. Lukas 2009/11/4 arnaud Jean Baptiste <jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com>: > Now, yes > i have try to update gofer. > Â and Â that alway return the same exception : > > 'subscript is out of bounds: 1' > > > On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >> Hi Jean, >> >> did you try to update to the latest version of Gofer from >> <http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/flair>. >> >> Â Â Gofer gofer update >> >> I noticed a similar problem with other malformed package names and >> probably already fixed the issue. >> >> Lukas >> >> 2009/11/4 arnaud Jean Baptiste <jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com>: >>> hi, >>> My named is Arnaud Jean Baptiste, i work with VMMaker and, i have >>> try to >>> load VMMaker via Gofer on Pharo (severals versions of the image, >>> rc, alpha, >>> dev). >>> and then the : >>> when i load the VMMaker package gofer don't find any version and >>> raise a >>> exception. >>> The code: >>> >>> Gofer new squeaksource: 'VMMaker'; >>> Â Â Â addPackage: 'VMMaker'; >>> Â Â Â load. >>> >>> raise a unbound exception. >>> i have open a issue : http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1397 >>> I can reproduce the problem with another project like balloon3D >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Nov. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] gofer cannot load if the package name not well-formed.

by arnaud Jean Baptiste

Now, yes i have try to update gofer. and that alway return the same exception : 'subscript is out of bounds: 1' On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > Hi Jean, > > did you try to update to the latest version of Gofer from > <http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/flair>. > > Gofer gofer update > > I noticed a similar problem with other malformed package names and > probably already fixed the issue. > > Lukas > > 2009/11/4 arnaud Jean Baptiste <jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com>: >> hi, >> My named is Arnaud Jean Baptiste, i work with VMMaker and, i have >> try to >> load VMMaker via Gofer on Pharo (severals versions of the image, >> rc, alpha, >> dev). >> and then the : >> when i load the VMMaker package gofer don't find any version and >> raise a >> exception. >> The code: >> >> Gofer new squeaksource: 'VMMaker'; >> addPackage: 'VMMaker'; >> load. >> >> raise a unbound exception. >> i have open a issue : http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1397 >> I can reproduce the problem with another project like balloon3D >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Nov. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] gofer cannot load if the package name not well-formed.

by Lukas Renggli

Hi Jean, did you try to update to the latest version of Gofer from <http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/flair>. Gofer gofer update I noticed a similar problem with other malformed package names and probably already fixed the issue. Lukas 2009/11/4 arnaud Jean Baptiste <jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com>: > hi, > My named is Arnaud Jean Baptiste, i work with VMMaker and, i have try to > load VMMaker via Gofer on Pharo (severals versions of the image, rc, alpha, > dev). > and then the : > when i load the VMMaker package gofer don't find any version and raise a > exception. > The code: > > Gofer new squeaksource: 'VMMaker'; > addPackage: 'VMMaker'; > load. > > raise a unbound exception. > i have open a issue :Â http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1397 > I can reproduce the problem with another project like balloon3D > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Nov. 4, 2009

[Pharo-project] gofer cannot load if the package name not well-formed.

by arnaud Jean Baptiste

hi, My named is Arnaud Jean Baptiste, i work with VMMaker and, i have try to load VMMaker via Gofer on Pharo (severals versions of the image, rc, alpha, dev). and then the : when i load the VMMaker package gofer don't find any version and raise a exception. The code: Gofer new squeaksource: 'VMMaker'; addPackage: 'VMMaker'; load. raise a unbound exception. i have open a issue : http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1397 I can reproduce the problem with another project like balloon3D

Nov. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Compiler compile:

by Niko Schwarz

Every project needs to have sacred cows that may not be tipped :D. Well, alright, in case that we can't agree on renaming, how about my original proposal, which left everything the way it was and only added the class-side compile:onClass: method to Compiler? Possibly sided by compile:onClass:ifFail: Cheers, Niko On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Well, I can rename the compile: method and post to PharoInbox, if >> anyone is interested. > > Also I agree that it is confusing, but there are tons of projects that > depend on this function. #compile: and #compile:classified: are about > the only two compiler related methods that are available cross > platform. If you rename them you will break any code that compiles > something, including the Refactoring Browser, SmaCC, OmniBrowser, > Seaside (for the file libraries), etc. > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Nov. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] RC1 image build failure

by Nicolas Cellier

2009/11/4 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>: > Nicolas, > > If I have the order wrong, then I submit we have yet another bug: the text spilled onto my display reads in part: "Original error: MessageNotUnderstood: SharedQueue2>>flushAllSuchThat:." > > You might be correct in flagging #findElementOrNil:, but the text suggests to me that this is a knock on effect to the SharedQueue2 deficiency. Â Further supporting evidence includes that #findElementOrNil: works in the image, and SharedQueue2 is indeed missing methods relative to its task. > > Either way, how do we fix this? > > Bill > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1408 > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Nicolas Cellier > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:17 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] RC1 image build failure > > 2009/11/4 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>: >> Nicolas, >> >> I doubt the images are corrupt, unless the download is somehow damaged. Â #findElementOrNil: works; the problem is more likely that the missing protocol in SharedSet2 lead to an unrecoverable meltdown. Â My question is how it worked as long as it did??? >> >> Bill >> > > I don't think you get the order right. > Follow the sender chain: > > flushAllSuchThat: < flushNonKbdEvents < nextKeyboardEvent < keyboard < 4 senders > - onPrimitiveError: (your case) > - request: used by above message > - flushKeyboard 3 senders, does not fail because 99% of time there is no event to flush > - tempCommand: < disabledCommandActions this one does not seem used > > If you look at your stack trace, you'll see at:ifAbsent: fails first > (doesNotUnderstand: #findElementOrNil:) > > Then onPrimitiveError: is triggered and cause a flushAllSuchThat: > which is not understood... > > That is rare, and that is why it was not encountered before. > > Thus I see 2 bugs: > - one rare bug in SharedQueue2 in Pharo-core > - (Smalltalk doesNotUnderstand: #findElementOrNil:) in your image to be explained first > > Nicolas > >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of >> Nicolas Cellier >> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 7:28 PM >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] RC1 image build failure >> >> 2009/11/4 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>: >>> Hello all, >>> >>> Whatever is happening, it keeps happening, and on two different machines, but both Ubuntu 9.10, FWIW. Â Attached is a shot of the whatever-it's-called window; the promised emergency evaluator does not appear (not that I would know what to do with it<g>). Â Comparing SharedQueue with SharedQueue2 might be interesting; with luck, there will simply be a missing method?? >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> 1) Yeah, SharedQueue2 does not share same public protocol and that sounds like a bug... >> >> (SharedQueue selectors difference: SharedQueue2 selectors) reject: [:e >> | (SharedQueue organization categoryOfElement: e) beginsWith: >> 'private']. >> -> an IdentitySet(#flushAllSuchThat: #nextOrNilSuchThat: #flush) >> >> We might also wanter to filter out unsent ones: >> (SharedQueue selectors difference: SharedQueue2 selectors) reject: [:e >> | ((SharedQueue organization categoryOfElement: e) beginsWith: >> 'private') or: [(SystemNavigation default allCallsOn: e) isEmpty]] >> >> >> 2) I find it strange your Smalltalk doesNotUnderstand: #findElementOrNil: >> >> Did you load some changes related to FasterSets or is your image damned corrupted ? >> Try (Smalltalk findElementOrNil: #Object) and tell us the result. >> >> Nicolas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Nov. 4, 2009