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[Pharo-project] new version of CAnalyzer?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

hi alex did you publish a new version of the configurationOfCanalyzer? Stef

Nov. 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Spanish Mailing list for Pharo

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

welcome we are all beginner for something :) On Nov 27, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: > thanks for being so understanding!. > > a beginner. > > > > On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:43 AM, GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I think the same. A good number of us can communicate on English and > don't have problems asking on the international lists, but exist another > universe of people, starting with Pharo/Squeak, most of them students > that prefer to have a beginners list on their own language. > > Just an opinion. > > Cheers. > > > 2009/11/27 Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com>: > > 2009/11/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > >> Sorry Alex, I wanted to speak with you about this in Smalltalks 2009 but I > >> couldn't find it. > >> > >> My personal view is that I am not sure if it would be good to have a Pharo > >> in Spanish mailing list. Why ? Most of the Argentinian (and I guess others > >> spanish countries also) people speaks english. At least well enough to > >> communicate. And even more nowadays where you have google translate and all > >> that stuff. So, maybe those you are not use to speak english they do a > >> little effort. With this, everybody can read those emails. If they are only > >> sent to the spanish lists, only those people will read it. And maybe the > >> answer was in an another guy. > >> > >> In addition, if someone cannot write english at all, then the mailig list is > >> spanish is a good idea :) > > > > I think it's very important to have local Smalltalk mailing lists. > > It's easier for beginners to speak in their native language. > > Not every one is a core Pharo developpers, some people are just plain > > users that want to expose their problems. > > In french, we have only one mailing with all the Smalltalk flavors. > > You can talk also about specific needs for example the translation of > > books in your language or some local events. > > > > -- > > Serge Stinckwich > > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > > Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] > > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Nov. 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Spanish Mailing list for Pharo

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

yes do a spanish mailing-list and have fun. Stef On Nov 27, 2009, at 2:43 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > I think the same. A good number of us can communicate on English and > don't have problems asking on the international lists, but exist another > universe of people, starting with Pharo/Squeak, most of them students > that prefer to have a beginners list on their own language. > > Just an opinion. > > Cheers. > > > 2009/11/27 Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com>: >> 2009/11/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: >>> Sorry Alex, I wanted to speak with you about this in Smalltalks 2009 but I >>> couldn't find it. >>> >>> My personal view is that I am not sure if it would be good to have a Pharo >>> in Spanish mailing list. Why ? Most of the Argentinian (and I guess others >>> spanish countries also) people speaks english. At least well enough to >>> communicate. And even more nowadays where you have google translate and all >>> that stuff. So, maybe those you are not use to speak english they do a >>> little effort. With this, everybody can read those emails. If they are only >>> sent to the spanish lists, only those people will read it. And maybe the >>> answer was in an another guy. >>> >>> In addition, if someone cannot write english at all, then the mailig list is >>> spanish is a good idea :) >> >> I think it's very important to have local Smalltalk mailing lists. >> It's easier for beginners to speak in their native language. >> Not every one is a core Pharo developpers, some people are just plain >> users that want to expose their problems. >> In french, we have only one mailing with all the Smalltalk flavors. >> You can talk also about specific needs for example the translation of >> books in your language or some local events. >> >> -- >> Serge Stinckwich >> UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam >> Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] >> http://doesnotunderstand.org/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Nov. 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting rid of the blinking cursor?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

integration is done :) On Nov 27, 2009, at 4:54 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > Hi Stef, nice talking in the sprint :) > I didn't knew about the status of the new preference framework, so > let's wait for the integration. > Regards > > HernÃ¡n > > 2009/11/27 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> Hi hernan >> >> it was nice to meet you :) >> >> This is the old way to define preference we will get rid of them... >> The rigt way is to have a classVar or something at the level of the packages that does it and to trigger it via the setting framework. >> >>> addPreference:categories: >> >> I imgaine that soon alain will publish a new version and we will integrate it. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Nov. 27, 2009

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11063

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

11063 ----- - Issue 1510: New setting implementation * a setting declaration is now implemented with a builder passed as argument * migration of several preferences * add Tools-SystemSettings and FreeType-SystemSettings as first system settings user interface specific packages In order to browse current set of settings: SystemSettingBrowser open In the browser, cmd-b on selected row should open a class browser on the selected setting declaration method

Nov. 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting rid of the blinking cursor?

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Hi Stef, nice talking in the sprint :) I didn't knew about the status of the new preference framework, so let's wait for the integration. Regards HernÃ¡n 2009/11/27 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Hi hernan > > it was nice to meet you :) > > This is the old way to define preference we will get rid of them... > The rigt way is to have a classVar or something at the level of the packages that does it and to trigger it via the setting framework. > >> addPreference:categories: > > I imgaine that soon alain will publish a new version and we will integrate it. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Nov. 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Spanish Mailing list for Pharo

by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras

thanks for being so understanding!. a beginner. On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:43 AM, GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I think the same. A good number of us can communicate on English and > don't have problems asking on the international lists, but exist another > universe of people, starting with Pharo/Squeak, most of them students > that prefer to have a beginners list on their own language. > > Just an opinion. > > Cheers. > > > 2009/11/27 Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com>: > > 2009/11/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > >> Sorry Alex, I wanted to speak with you about this in Smalltalks 2009 but > I > >> couldn't find it. > >> > >> My personal view is that I am not sure if it would be good to have a > Pharo > >> in Spanish mailing list. Why ? Most of the Argentinian (and I guess > others > >> spanish countries also) people speaks english. At least well enough to > >> communicate. And even more nowadays where you have google translate and > all > >> that stuff. So, maybe those you are not use to speak english they do a > >> little effort. With this, everybody can read those emails. If they are > only > >> sent to the spanish lists, only those people will read it. And maybe the > >> answer was in an another guy. > >> > >> In addition, if someone cannot write english at all, then the mailig > list is > >> spanish is a good idea :) > > > > I think it's very important to have local Smalltalk mailing lists. > > It's easier for beginners to speak in their native language. > > Not every one is a core Pharo developpers, some people are just plain > > users that want to expose their problems. > > In french, we have only one mailing with all the Smalltalk flavors. > > You can talk also about specific needs for example the translation of > > books in your language or some local events. > > > > -- > > Serge Stinckwich > > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > > Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] > > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Nov. 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Spanish Mailing list for Pharo

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

I think the same. A good number of us can communicate on English and don't have problems asking on the international lists, but exist another universe of people, starting with Pharo/Squeak, most of them students that prefer to have a beginners list on their own language. Just an opinion. Cheers. 2009/11/27 Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com>: > 2009/11/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: >> Sorry Alex, I wanted to speak with you about this in Smalltalks 2009 but I >> couldn't find it. >> >> My personal view is that I am not sure if it would be good to have a Pharo >> in Spanish mailing list. Why ? Most of the Argentinian (and I guess others >> spanish countries also) people speaks english. At least well enough to >> communicate. And even more nowadays where you have google translate and all >> that stuff. So, maybe those you are not use to speak english they do a >> little effort. With this, everybody can read those emails. If they are only >> sent to the spanish lists, only those people will read it. And maybe the >> answer was in an another guy. >> >> In addition, if someone cannot write english at all, then the mailig list is >> spanish is a good idea :) > > I think it's very important to have local Smalltalk mailing lists. > It's easier for beginners to speak in their native language. > Not every one is a core Pharo developpers, some people are just plain > users that want to expose their problems. > In french, we have only one mailing with all the Smalltalk flavors. > You can talk also about specific needs for example the translation of > books in your language or some local events. > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Nov. 27, 2009

[Pharo-project] new settings slice

by Alain Plantec

Hi again, SLICE-SettingsIntegration-2711 is in Inbox. Tools-SystemSettings and FreeType-SystemSettings are new packages dedicated to the declaration of some system settings. As such, they are removable as System-Settings package is. ... -------------------------- * a setting declaration is now implemented with a builder passed as argument * migration of few preferences * add Tools-SystemSettings and FreeType-SystemSettings as first system settings user interface specific packages In order to browse current set of settings: SystemSettingBrowser open In the browser, cmd-b on selected row should open a class browser on the selected setting declaration method --------------------------- Cheers Alain

Nov. 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting rid of the blinking cursor?

by Alain Plantec

StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > This is the old way to define preference we will get rid of them... > The rigt way is to have a classVar or something at the level of the packages that does it and to trigger it via the setting framework. > yes but I would suggest to wait before implementing new settings until already existing preferences are all migrated to the new framework. > I imgaine that soon alain will publish a new version and we will integrate it. > yes! see my next mail Cheers Alain > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >

Nov. 27, 2009