November 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] gofer can handle ftp?

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, I wonder if Gofer can handle ftp besides http. Cheers, Esteban

Nov. 28, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Loading Mars project

by Esteban Lorenzano

ouch, that link shouldn't be there ;) It is old and as you can see... not working anymore. Thank you for your patience... I will post about new version soon (I hope). Cheers, Esteban On 2009-11-28 03:24:11 -0300, Laval Jannik <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> said: > > > > > Hi Esteban, > Thanks for your work, > > I wait your changes :) > Here is the page with the script: = > http://www.smallworks.com.ar/productos/Mars/Download > > And the script: > Installer universe=20 > addPackage: 'OmniBrowser'; > addPackage: 'OmniBrowser-Morphic'; > addPackage: 'OmniBrowser-Standard'; > addPackage: 'OmniBrowser-Refactory'; > install. > > Installer wiresong project: 'ob'; install: 'OB-Monticello'. > Installer lukas project: 'omnibrowser'; install: 'OB-Tools'. > > Installer ss project: 'Mars'; > install: 'Mars'; > install: 'OB-Mars'. > > But, when I only load Mars package, it does not work too. > > Cheers, > Jannik > > On Nov 28, 2009, at 04:47 , Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> Hi again, >> I'm sorry but what script? I removed the link when I started the=20 >> refactorization :P >> =20 >> Cheers, >> Esteban >> =20 >> On 2009-11-27 16:50:02 -0300, Laval Jannik=20 >> <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> said: >> =20 >>> Hi all, >>> =20 >>> I tried to load Mars with the Installer script of the website=20 >>> (http://www.smallworks.com.ar/productos/Mars) >>> I use a pharo1-1.0-10496-rc1dev09.11.4. >>> =20 >>> When the loading of the package Mars, my image freeze on the = > "compiling=20 >>> method" process. >>> =20 >>> Could you help me ? >>> =20 >>> Cheers, >>> =20 >>> =20 >>> --- >>> Jannik Laval >>> --- >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > <html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = > -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi = > Esteban,<div>Thanks for your work,</div><div><br></div><div>I wait your = > changes :)</div><div>Here is the page with the script: <a = > href=3D"http://www.smallworks.com.ar/productos/Mars/Download">http://www.s= > mallworks.com.ar/productos/Mars/Download</a></div><div><br></div><div>And = > the script:</div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = > style=3D"font-family: verdana, arial, tahoma; font-size: 12px; color: = > rgb(34, 34, 34); line-height: 18px; "><pre style=3D"margin-top: 1.5em; = > margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1.5em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: = > 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; = > border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: = > 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: = > initial; font-weight: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-size: 10px; = > font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre; font: = > normal normal normal 1em/normal 'andale mono', 'lucida console', = > monospace; line-height: 1.5; ">Installer universe=20 > addPackage: 'OmniBrowser'; > addPackage: 'OmniBrowser-Morphic'; > addPackage: 'OmniBrowser-Standard'; > addPackage: 'OmniBrowser-Refactory'; > install. > > Installer wiresong project: 'ob'; install: 'OB-Monticello'. > Installer lukas project: 'omnibrowser'; install: 'OB-Tools'. > > Installer ss project: 'Mars'; > install: 'Mars'; > install: 'OB-Mars'.</pre></span><div><br></div><div>But, when I = > only load Mars package, it does not work = > too.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Jannik</div></div><div><br= >> <div><div>On Nov 28, 2009, at 04:47 , Esteban Lorenzano wrote:</div><br = > class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Hi = > again,<br>I'm sorry but what script? I removed the link when I started = > the <br>refactorization :P<br><br>Cheers,<br>Esteban<br><br>On = > 2009-11-27 16:50:02 -0300, Laval Jannik <br><<a = > href=3D"mailto:jannik.laval@gmail.com">jannik.laval(a)gmail.com</a>> > = > said:<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hi = > all,<br></blockquote><blockquote = > type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">I tried to load = > Mars with the Installer script of the website = > <br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">(<a = > href=3D"http://www.smallworks.com.ar/productos/Mars">http://www.smallworks= > .com.ar/productos/Mars</a>)<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">I = > use a pharo1-1.0-10496-rc1dev09.11.4.<br></blockquote><blockquote = > type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">When the = > loading of the package Mars, my image freeze on the "compiling = > <br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">method" = > process.<br></blockquote><blockquote = > type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Could you help = > me ?<br></blockquote><blockquote = > type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote = > type=3D"cite">Cheers,<br></blockquote><blockquote = > type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote = > type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote = > type=3D"cite">---<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Jannik = > Laval<br></blockquote><blockquote = > type=3D"cite">---<br></blockquote><br><br><br><br>________________________= > _______________________<br>Pharo-project mailing list<br><a = > href=3D"mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr">Pharo-project-bM+ny+RY8h8(a)public.gmane.org= orge.inria.fr</a><br>http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo= /pharo-project<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div> <span > > class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; 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Nov. 28, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Continuous Integration Server for Pharo?

by Lukas Renggli

> Today I noticed that there already existed a project: > http://www.squeaksource.com/TestServerSimple which more or less does the > same thing. For Seaside we are in the process of applying Mason, a CI server Colin implemented. It is available from <http://source.wiresong.ca/mc>. > This kind of automated ci server seems 2 me an essential tool in Pharo. Definitely, that's absolutely crucial. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Nov. 28, 2009

[Pharo-project] Continuous Integration Server for Pharo?

by Bart Gauquie

Dear all, I come from a Java world and there we use for instance : http://hudson-ci.org/ to do a continuous integration build. Which means all latest code gets updated, all test ran & if build successful, the code is tagged (so you can take the code again from a successful build). It also provides a nice GUI, and lets you inspect previous builds, the results from that build, ... . In Pharo, I did not directly find an alternative, and therefor, also as an exercise, I tried to build one myself. The primitive, but working result so far is: http://www.squeaksource.com/BuildBot. This project depends on BBProjectDescription, which defines class BBBuildProjectDescription with defines: - BBBuildProjectDescription>>allProjectPackageNames - BBBuildProjectDescription>>installLatestWithDependencies - BBBuildProjectDescription>>buildsClassToPutVersionsOn What buildbot then does is using a BBBuildProjectDescription , checkout all latest code, run the tests for all these packages & , if successfull, take the buildsClassToPutVersionsOn and add a new method on it, describing the exact package numbers : for instance: BuildBotMockProjectBuilds class >> packagesForBuild20091127102654 ^#(('TODO' -> 'TODO-BKBAG.5.mcz') ('BuildBtMockProject' -> 'BuildBtMockProject-BartGauquie.7.mcz') ). Using this information I can easily install this exact version. Furthermore creating a release is then just creating for instance a class BuildBotMockProjectReleases with: BuildBotMockProjectReleasesclass >> release_1_0 ^BuildBotMockProjectBuilds packagesForBuild20091127102654 I am in fact 'tagging' a group packages that belong together and work together. So I can rollout this exact versions of the packages to some image automatically. However, Today I noticed that there already existed a project: http://www.squeaksource.com/TestServerSimple which more or less does the same thing. The only thing it does not do, or I did not find it, is to version the build, so that you can restore a project again ; a project which is consisting of a number of packages which are compatible and for which all tests ran. Is there a way to do that in TestServerSimple? Furthermore, are there any other projects that do a similar thing I'm not aware of? Is there any default way in Pharo to build a project which consists of multiple packages that each have different versions? I've seen MetaCello & Gofer as some other way 2 load groups of packages, but no integration into some kind of ci tool. This kind of automated ci server seems 2 me an essential tool in Pharo. Thanks for any pointers / ideas ! Kind Regards, Bart -- imagination is more important than knowledge - Albert Einstein Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere - Albert Einstein Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning. - Albert Einstein The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination. - Albert Einstein Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love. - Albert Einstein

Nov. 28, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] about sluggines on linux

by Damien Cassou

Hi Arturo, On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:07 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Arturo told me that pharo was looking slow on his machine. I'm using Pharo on Ubuntu 9.10 and experience no problem. Could you please try by turning off Compiz? -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

Nov. 28, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Loading Mars project

by Laval Jannik

Hi Esteban, Thanks for your work, I wait your changes :) Here is the page with the script: http://www.smallworks.com.ar/productos/Mars/Download And the script: Installer universe addPackage: 'OmniBrowser'; addPackage: 'OmniBrowser-Morphic'; addPackage: 'OmniBrowser-Standard'; addPackage: 'OmniBrowser-Refactory'; install. Installer wiresong project: 'ob'; install: 'OB-Monticello'. Installer lukas project: 'omnibrowser'; install: 'OB-Tools'. Installer ss project: 'Mars'; install: 'Mars'; install: 'OB-Mars'. But, when I only load Mars package, it does not work too. Cheers, Jannik On Nov 28, 2009, at 04:47 , Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi again, > I'm sorry but what script? I removed the link when I started the > refactorization :P > > Cheers, > Esteban > > On 2009-11-27 16:50:02 -0300, Laval Jannik > <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> said: > >> Hi all, >> >> I tried to load Mars with the Installer script of the website >> (http://www.smallworks.com.ar/productos/Mars) >> I use a pharo1-1.0-10496-rc1dev09.11.4. >> >> When the loading of the package Mars, my image freeze on the "compiling >> method" process. >> >> Could you help me ? >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> --- >> Jannik Laval >> --- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Nov. 28, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Loading Mars project

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi again, I'm sorry but what script? I removed the link when I started the refactorization :P Cheers, Esteban On 2009-11-27 16:50:02 -0300, Laval Jannik <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> said: > Hi all, > > I tried to load Mars with the Installer script of the website > (http://www.smallworks.com.ar/productos/Mars) > I use a pharo1-1.0-10496-rc1dev09.11.4. > > When the loading of the package Mars, my image freeze on the "compiling > method" process. > > Could you help me ? > > Cheers, > > > --- > Jannik Laval > ---

Nov. 28, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Loading Mars project

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi Jannik, I'm the developer of Mars. Currently, Mars is having a HUGE refactorization, and therefore is not loadable at all, but I'm working on it and I will release a new version as soon as possible... I'm very sorry about the delay of this project, but you know, "time is tyrant". Cheers, Esteban On 2009-11-27 16:50:02 -0300, Laval Jannik <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> said: > Hi all, > > I tried to load Mars with the Installer script of the website > (http://www.smallworks.com.ar/productos/Mars) > I use a pharo1-1.0-10496-rc1dev09.11.4. > > When the loading of the package Mars, my image freeze on the "compiling > method" process. > > Could you help me ? > > Cheers, > > > --- > Jannik Laval > ---

Nov. 28, 2009

[Pharo-project] Loading Mars project

by Laval Jannik

Hi all, I tried to load Mars with the Installer script of the website (http://www.smallworks.com.ar/productos/Mars) I use a pharo1-1.0-10496-rc1dev09.11.4. When the loading of the package Mars, my image freeze on the "compiling method" process. Could you help me ? Cheers, --- Jannik Laval ---

Nov. 27, 2009

[Pharo-project] Fwd: about Pharo

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> From: neil butterworth <nbutterworth1953(a)googlemail.com> > Date: November 27, 2009 7:38:26 PM GMT+01:00 > To: StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Subject: Re: about Pharo > > On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:40 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Thanks. >> >> speed up the system was always a concern to us now >> the font rendering takes time and we have all new machines so we do not feel the slugginess. >> Now this is important and in 1.1 we already got 15% speed increase for morphic. > > Just to let you know, I spent a few minutes poking rounf in the Pharo > mousehandling code and came up with a hack that fixes my problem (or > at least aleviates it). In HandMorph>>waitForClicksOnDrag: I changed: > > dblClickTime: DoubleClickTime I saw 350 may be a lot :) > > to > > dblClickTime: 0.01 > > this improves thigs but is not perfect. Also I could not find where or > what DoubleClickTime is using the browser! Can you tell me how to > browse to it? Select the class and bring the menu then pick chase variables then in the resulting window click on class. > > Anyway, hope this is useful info. > > Neil Butterworth

Nov. 27, 2009