October 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] issue 996: analogousCodeTo:

by Damien Cassou

2009/10/4 Ramiro Diaz Trepat <ramiro(a)diaztrepat.name>: > I saw previous posts from Steph saying that this fix had already been > pushed, but I have an image updated up to now and it does happen. Please provide a detailed process on how to reproduce. Telling us the image you used is of interest too. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

Oct. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] issue 996: analogousCodeTo:

by Ramiro Diaz Trepat

I saw previous posts from Steph saying that this fix had already been pushed, but I have an image updated up to now and it does happen.Cheers r. On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Ramiro Diaz Trepat <ramiro(a)diaztrepat.name>wrote: > Hi guys,My debugger casts exceptions as soon as I click on any stack point > and hence I can't almost use it for anything. > The error always seems to be this MNU ByteSymbol>>analogousCodeTo: > Is there a work around to use the debugger? > Thanks > > r >

Oct. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Dumb question: ~ vs. /home/user

by merlyn＠stonehenge.com

>>>>> "Nicolas" == Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com> writes: Nicolas> mkdir \~ Nicolas> ls -al \~ Nicolas> How will you access this directory from Squeak ? And if you say '\~', then let me do this: mkdir \\\~ :) Evil. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion

Oct. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Dumb question: ~ vs. /home/user

by merlyn＠stonehenge.com

>>>>> "Andreas" == Andreas Wacknitz <A.Wacknitz(a)gmx.de> writes: Andreas> Yes, ~ is the home of the actual user. But you can also have a user Andreas> name followed by a ~, like schwab~. Huh? Pretty sure you mean "~schwab", not "schwab~". -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion

Oct. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN] New SqueakDBX release and good news!!!

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Thanks for the comments!!! and thanks Damien for the hint. It is fixed now. BTW, www.squeakdbx.org is now alive!!!! cheers, Mariano 2009/10/3 Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez <miguel.coba(a)gmail.com> > El sÃ¡b, 03-10-2009 a las 19:09 -0300, Mariano Martinez Peck escribiÃ³: > > Hi folks! We have a couple of things to announce. > > Congratulations. Very good news. > > Saludos > -- > Miguel CobÃ¡ > http://miguel.leugim.com.mx > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >

Oct. 4, 2009

[Pharo-project] issue 996: analogousCodeTo:

by Ramiro Diaz Trepat

Hi guys,My debugger casts exceptions as soon as I click on any stack point and hence I can't almost use it for anything. The error always seems to be this MNU ByteSymbol>>analogousCodeTo: Is there a work around to use the debugger? Thanks r

Oct. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Dumb question: ~ vs. /home/user

by Cameron Sanders

I concur with the wildcards note. On Oct 4, 2009, at 4:57 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > I think Randall nailed it with wildcards; that's where it fits. I > suppose one could provide a Windows version of it (/home/user could > map to the documents and settings craziness), though I learned the > hard way to steer clear of such things on Windows - if I have to use > Windows, give me my own directory on c: any day. Indeed, '~' was a shell notation, so not an OS feature. And in fact, I used cygwin on windows (for the 12 years I suffered along in that world) and those shells support the tilde (~) and everything you expect from the shells. So it would be nice to support it for all platforms... or not at all. If such features are not going to be supported on all platforms, then I would rely on environmental variables like HOME (or whatever is common across platforms) and simply not use them. -Cam PS: I kicked the windows habit... and cannot for the life of me remember why I suffered along with it even that long. I'm running a mac now, for the last 6 months, and I haven't had a single lock-up or forced re-boot yet.

Oct. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Dumb question: ~ vs. /home/user

by Andreas Wacknitz

Am 05.10.2009 um 00:00 schrieb Schwab,Wilhelm K: > Nicolas, > > The ~ I have in mind appears only as the first character since it > replaces /home/userName, so it might not be a problem. Am I missing > something? Yes, ~ is the home of the actual user. But you can also have a user name followed by a ~, like schwab~. Andreas

Oct. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Dumb question: ~ vs. /home/user

by Nicolas Cellier

mkdir \~ ls -al \~ How will you access this directory from Squeak ? Nicolas 2009/10/5 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>: > Nicolas, > > The ~ I have in mind appears only as the first character since it replaces /home/userName, so it might not be a problem. Â Am I missing something? > > I realize I mentioned /~/andSoOn, but that was only in the context of Pharo's having introduced the leading /, turning ~/andSoOn into garbage and then getting confused by it, or something like that. > > Bill > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Nicolas Cellier > Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 4:05 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Dumb question: ~ vs. /home/user > > If you follow that path, don't forget we might require a way to escape '\~' > > Nicolas > > 2009/10/4 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>: >> Nicolas, >> >> It is OS-specific, but there is no reason to avoid doing things that >> are expected on the local host - mac menus come to mind. Â An >> OS-neutral approach gets the least-common denominator. Â Another more >> fundamental example: the windows guys should get ready to part with >> drive letters :) >> >> I think Randall nailed it with wildcards; that's where it fits. Â I suppose one could provide a Windows version of it (/home/user could map to the documents and settings craziness), though I learned the hard way to steer clear of such things on Windows - if I have to use Windows, give me my own directory on c: any day. >> >> This cropped up in porting one of my tools that I've used for longer than I care to describe, and have ported a couple of times. Â Now I need a Linux version of it, and ~ would be a nice solution to some problems that quickly surfaced. >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of >> Nicolas Cellier >> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 3:28 PM >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Dumb question: ~ vs. /home/user >> >> Isn't this OS-centric ? >> >> Nicolas >> >> 2009/10/4 Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com>: >>>>>>>> "Wilhelm" == Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> writes: >>> >>> Wilhelm> Understood - the question was (is?) whether or not Pharo >>> Wilhelm> should recognize it and act accordingly - I suspect the answer is no. >>> >>> It *should* be understood and interpreted in the same places where '*' >>> and '?' and '[]' are used for globbing, since it's effectively a >>> globbing character. >>> >>> So for example, presuming a hypothetical: >>> >>> Â '*.st' matchingFiles >>> >>> to return everything matching in the default directory, then: >>> >>> Â '~/foo' matchingFiles >>> >>> should return something relative to the home directory of the current user. >>> >>> -- >>> Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 >>> 777 >>> 0095 <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> >>> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. >>> See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside >>> discussion >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Oct. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Dumb question: ~ vs. /home/user

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Nicolas, The ~ I have in mind appears only as the first character since it replaces /home/userName, so it might not be a problem. Am I missing something? I realize I mentioned /~/andSoOn, but that was only in the context of Pharo's having introduced the leading /, turning ~/andSoOn into garbage and then getting confused by it, or something like that. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Nicolas Cellier Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 4:05 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Dumb question: ~ vs. /home/user If you follow that path, don't forget we might require a way to escape '\~' Nicolas 2009/10/4 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>: > Nicolas, > > It is OS-specific, but there is no reason to avoid doing things that > are expected on the local host - mac menus come to mind. Â An > OS-neutral approach gets the least-common denominator. Â Another more > fundamental example: the windows guys should get ready to part with > drive letters :) > > I think Randall nailed it with wildcards; that's where it fits. Â I suppose one could provide a Windows version of it (/home/user could map to the documents and settings craziness), though I learned the hard way to steer clear of such things on Windows - if I have to use Windows, give me my own directory on c: any day. > > This cropped up in porting one of my tools that I've used for longer than I care to describe, and have ported a couple of times. Â Now I need a Linux version of it, and ~ would be a nice solution to some problems that quickly surfaced. > > Bill > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of > Nicolas Cellier > Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 3:28 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Dumb question: ~ vs. /home/user > > Isn't this OS-centric ? > > Nicolas > > 2009/10/4 Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com>: >>>>>>> "Wilhelm" == Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> writes: >> >> Wilhelm> Understood - the question was (is?) whether or not Pharo >> Wilhelm> should recognize it and act accordingly - I suspect the answer is no. >> >> It *should* be understood and interpreted in the same places where '*' >> and '?' and '[]' are used for globbing, since it's effectively a >> globbing character. >> >> So for example, presuming a hypothetical: >> >> Â '*.st' matchingFiles >> >> to return everything matching in the default directory, then: >> >> Â '~/foo' matchingFiles >> >> should return something relative to the home directory of the current user. >> >> -- >> Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 >> 777 >> 0095 <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> >> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. >> See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside >> discussion >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

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