September 2008 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] InstallerTest

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Keith, None of the test in InstallerTest pass. The class ClassClonerTestResource is missing. Any idea how to fix this? Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 12, 2008

[Pharo-project] Coding session now...

by Alexandre Bergel

Dear List, Marcus, Stef and I are now doing a Pharo coding. - Stef is cleaning the list of issues in on the pharo website - I am working on making the test server. I am currently deprecating tests that popup windows Feel free to join Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 12, 2008

Re: Building VM (Was: Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Hello everyone!)

by Igor Stasenko

2008/9/12 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com>: > As always, things not working out of the box. > > - VM builds from unzipped VM sources OK > - but for building with VMMaker generated sources, had to fix 'gnuify' > file to make a clean build > > i dreaming to build vm straight from squeak, without horrid makefiles. > I heard that Keith did a 'Bob' tool which can be used as a kind of > make utility. > But i think, to fully replace makefiles, it needs an OSProcessPlugin > to be able to interact with OS/shell. > Next step, tried to load freetype plugin.... http://source.impara.de/freetype/Freetype-Plugin-JMM.53.mcz http://source.impara.de/freetype/Freetype-Plugin-tween.51.mcz and guess what? YES! It can't be loaded! :) MC complains about following: This package depends on the following classes: FT2Constants The FT2Constants is the pool dictionary used by plugin. But not defined within package. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Sept. 12, 2008

Building VM (Was: Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Hello everyone!)

by Igor Stasenko

As always, things not working out of the box. - VM builds from unzipped VM sources OK - but for building with VMMaker generated sources, had to fix 'gnuify' file to make a clean build i dreaming to build vm straight from squeak, without horrid makefiles. I heard that Keith did a 'Bob' tool which can be used as a kind of make utility. But i think, to fully replace makefiles, it needs an OSProcessPlugin to be able to interact with OS/shell. 2008/9/12 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com>: > 2008/9/12 Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com>: >> Hi, >> "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:4a5f5f320809111213v2eec6200te2dcab47f03f6a58@mail.gmail.com... >>> >>> 2008/9/11 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>> >>>> I'm confused you do not use VMMaker for Hydra? >>>>> >>>>>> yes keep it there >>>>>> we have too much mailing-lists >>>>>> >>>>>> So can you do a unix/windows VM with the freeType pluging? >>>>>> >>>>> Sure i can, just give me details which/where i should take VMMaker & >>>>> platform sources & plugin. >>>> >>>> I thought that all this information was in the VM repository. >>>> >>> Can you point me to that VM repository? >>> >>> VMMaker are available on: >>> - squeakmap, >>> - http://www.squeaksource.com/VMMaker.html >>> - http://source.squeakfoundation.org (now is empty ,strange) >>> >>> The VM sources, are available on squeakvm.org SVN. >>> Is this places correct? >> >> For windows, you can use the source release from Squeak.org... >> http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.10.7-src.zip >> >> Not sure about Linux. >> >>> >>> Also, where i can get freetype plugin and its platform sources? >> >> http://source.impara.de/freetype/Freetype-Plugin-JMM.53.mcz is the latest, >> but you might have to use an earlier version from the same repository - e.g. >> http://source.impara.de/freetype/Freetype-Plugin-tween.51.mcz >> >> For a long time, I have used the FT2Plugins that ship with Sophie. >> I think that we will need to get platform sources, makefiles etc. from the >> Sophie developers. >> >> The Windows ft2plugin.dll dynamically links to freetype6.dll . >> Once again we may need the Sophie developers help if we want to rebuild >> freetype6.dll (to move to a later version of Freetype, for example). >> >> You can find the freetype6.dll in >> http://dev.sophieproject.org/downloads/releases/Sophie1.0.3.zip , or >> alternatively in my plugins installer sar (zip) file >> http://map.squeak.org/accountbyid/46dcf6af-067d-43e3-9fc9-d7010e067153/file… >> >> The source for FreeType itself is on sourceforge - >> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3157&package_id=3121 >> The freetype6.dll was built from version 2.2.1 of FreeType. >> >> The Linux FT2Plugin dynamically links to the libfreetype.so.6 library that >> ships with most (all?) linux distributions. >> >> The bitblt modifications are currently in a changeset that should be >> installed after installing vmmaker - you can get it here... >> http://www.zen61439.zen.co.uk/bak/bitBlt_plugin_enhancements/FreeTypeBitBlt… >> (In a few days time this url will no longer work as I am changing ISP - so I >> have also attached it to this post) >> >> I know that this is all quite complicated and confusing, and it may take >> some time to get all the pieces of the puzzle in place. >> Thank you for your interest and help. >> > > No, it is not complicated. You described the picture quite understandable. > So, we have everything, except F2P plugin platform sources. > Any idea, who i should contact with, to get them? > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Sept. 12, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Hello everyone!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>> > > No, it is not complicated. You described the picture quite > understandable. > So, we have everything, except F2P plugin platform sources. > Any idea, who i should contact with, to get them? For sophie contact mike and john m.rueger(a)acm.org and johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com

Sept. 12, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Hello everyone!

by Igor Stasenko

2008/9/12 Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com>: > Hi, > "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:4a5f5f320809111213v2eec6200te2dcab47f03f6a58@mail.gmail.com... >> >> 2008/9/11 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>> >>> I'm confused you do not use VMMaker for Hydra? >>>> >>>>> yes keep it there >>>>> we have too much mailing-lists >>>>> >>>>> So can you do a unix/windows VM with the freeType pluging? >>>>> >>>> Sure i can, just give me details which/where i should take VMMaker & >>>> platform sources & plugin. >>> >>> I thought that all this information was in the VM repository. >>> >> Can you point me to that VM repository? >> >> VMMaker are available on: >> - squeakmap, >> - http://www.squeaksource.com/VMMaker.html >> - http://source.squeakfoundation.org (now is empty ,strange) >> >> The VM sources, are available on squeakvm.org SVN. >> Is this places correct? > > For windows, you can use the source release from Squeak.org... > http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.10.7-src.zip > > Not sure about Linux. > >> >> Also, where i can get freetype plugin and its platform sources? > > http://source.impara.de/freetype/Freetype-Plugin-JMM.53.mcz is the latest, > but you might have to use an earlier version from the same repository - e.g. > http://source.impara.de/freetype/Freetype-Plugin-tween.51.mcz > > For a long time, I have used the FT2Plugins that ship with Sophie. > I think that we will need to get platform sources, makefiles etc. from the > Sophie developers. > > The Windows ft2plugin.dll dynamically links to freetype6.dll . > Once again we may need the Sophie developers help if we want to rebuild > freetype6.dll (to move to a later version of Freetype, for example). > > You can find the freetype6.dll in > http://dev.sophieproject.org/downloads/releases/Sophie1.0.3.zip , or > alternatively in my plugins installer sar (zip) file > http://map.squeak.org/accountbyid/46dcf6af-067d-43e3-9fc9-d7010e067153/file… > > The source for FreeType itself is on sourceforge - > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3157&package_id=3121 > The freetype6.dll was built from version 2.2.1 of FreeType. > > The Linux FT2Plugin dynamically links to the libfreetype.so.6 library that > ships with most (all?) linux distributions. > > The bitblt modifications are currently in a changeset that should be > installed after installing vmmaker - you can get it here... > http://www.zen61439.zen.co.uk/bak/bitBlt_plugin_enhancements/FreeTypeBitBlt… > (In a few days time this url will no longer work as I am changing ISP - so I > have also attached it to this post) > > I know that this is all quite complicated and confusing, and it may take > some time to get all the pieces of the puzzle in place. > Thank you for your interest and help. > No, it is not complicated. You described the picture quite understandable. So, we have everything, except F2P plugin platform sources. Any idea, who i should contact with, to get them? -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Sept. 12, 2008

[Pharo-project] Re: Hello everyone!

by Andrew Tween

Hi, "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:4a5f5f320809111213v2eec6200te2dcab47f03f6a58@mail.gmail.com... > 2008/9/11 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> I'm confused you do not use VMMaker for Hydra? >>> >>>> yes keep it there >>>> we have too much mailing-lists >>>> >>>> So can you do a unix/windows VM with the freeType pluging? >>>> >>> Sure i can, just give me details which/where i should take VMMaker & >>> platform sources & plugin. >> >> I thought that all this information was in the VM repository. >> > Can you point me to that VM repository? > > VMMaker are available on: > - squeakmap, > - http://www.squeaksource.com/VMMaker.html > - http://source.squeakfoundation.org (now is empty ,strange) > > The VM sources, are available on squeakvm.org SVN. > Is this places correct? For windows, you can use the source release from Squeak.org... http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.10.7-src.zip Not sure about Linux. > > Also, where i can get freetype plugin and its platform sources? http://source.impara.de/freetype/Freetype-Plugin-JMM.53.mcz is the latest, but you might have to use an earlier version from the same repository - e.g. http://source.impara.de/freetype/Freetype-Plugin-tween.51.mcz For a long time, I have used the FT2Plugins that ship with Sophie. I think that we will need to get platform sources, makefiles etc. from the Sophie developers. The Windows ft2plugin.dll dynamically links to freetype6.dll . Once again we may need the Sophie developers help if we want to rebuild freetype6.dll (to move to a later version of Freetype, for example). You can find the freetype6.dll in http://dev.sophieproject.org/downloads/releases/Sophie1.0.3.zip , or alternatively in my plugins installer sar (zip) file http://map.squeak.org/accountbyid/46dcf6af-067d-43e3-9fc9-d7010e067153/file… The source for FreeType itself is on sourceforge - http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3157&package_id=3121 The freetype6.dll was built from version 2.2.1 of FreeType. The Linux FT2Plugin dynamically links to the libfreetype.so.6 library that ships with most (all?) linux distributions. The bitblt modifications are currently in a changeset that should be installed after installing vmmaker - you can get it here... http://www.zen61439.zen.co.uk/bak/bitBlt_plugin_enhancements/FreeTypeBitBlt… (In a few days time this url will no longer work as I am changing ISP - so I have also attached it to this post) I know that this is all quite complicated and confusing, and it may take some time to get all the pieces of the puzzle in place. Thank you for your interest and help. Cheers, Andy > > >> Stef >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 12, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] FileMan

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

what I would like is - take the best ideas of both and use that to replace the ugly in pharo. - there are some aspects of rio I do not like like the cascading .... (see the meial I sent this summer) - fileman wrap the ugly and we should replace the ugly. Stef On Sep 12, 2008, at 8:43 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Thanks Damien > > Alexandre > > > On 12 Sep 2008, at 07:30, Damien Cassou wrote: > >> Comparaison between FileMan and Rio : http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3800 >> >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Alexandre Bergel >> <Alexandre.Bergel(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> Dear List, >>> >>> On SqueakMap there is a package called FileMan. Here is an example: >>> >>> Squeak's file libraries (Directory, DirectoryEntry, FileStream, >>> etc.) are >>> sometimes very confusing to use. FileMan provides a simple, >>> refactored >>> interfaces for manipulating files and directories by wrapping >>> those classes. >>> >>> "Before" >>> subDir := FileDirectory default directoryNamed: 'subDir'. >>> subDir assureExistence. >>> [str := subDir newFileNamed: 'file1'. >>> str nextPutAll: 'Hello!'] >>> ensure: [str close]. >>> >>> "After installation of FileMan" >>> './subDir' asDirectoryEntry at: 'file2' put: 'Hello!' >>> >>> Maybe it worth having a look at it? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good >> luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 12, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] FileMan

by Alexandre Bergel

Thanks Damien Alexandre On 12 Sep 2008, at 07:30, Damien Cassou wrote: > Comparaison between FileMan and Rio : http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3800 > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Alexandre Bergel > <Alexandre.Bergel(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Dear List, >> >> On SqueakMap there is a package called FileMan. Here is an example: >> >> Squeak's file libraries (Directory, DirectoryEntry, FileStream, >> etc.) are >> sometimes very confusing to use. FileMan provides a simple, >> refactored >> interfaces for manipulating files and directories by wrapping those >> classes. >> >> "Before" >> subDir := FileDirectory default directoryNamed: 'subDir'. >> subDir assureExistence. >> [str := subDir newFileNamed: 'file1'. >> str nextPutAll: 'Hello!'] >> ensure: [str close]. >> >> "After installation of FileMan" >> './subDir' asDirectoryEntry at: 'file2' put: 'Hello!' >> >> Maybe it worth having a look at it? >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Damien Cassou > Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good > luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 12, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] FileMan

by Damien Cassou

Comparaison between FileMan and Rio : http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3800 On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Alexandre Bergel <Alexandre.Bergel(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Dear List, > > On SqueakMap there is a package called FileMan. Here is an example: > > Squeak's file libraries (Directory, DirectoryEntry, FileStream, etc.) are > sometimes very confusing to use. FileMan provides a simple, refactored > interfaces for manipulating files and directories by wrapping those classes. > > "Before" > subDir := FileDirectory default directoryNamed: 'subDir'. > subDir assureExistence. > [str := subDir newFileNamed: 'file1'. > str nextPutAll: 'Hello!'] > ensure: [str close]. > > "After installation of FileMan" > './subDir' asDirectoryEntry at: 'file2' put: 'Hello!' > > Maybe it worth having a look at it? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

Sept. 12, 2008