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Re: [Pharo-project] removing the DockingBar and TheWorldMainDockingBar

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks I'm busy too :) but thanks I will have a look at that :) Stef On Sep 15, 2008, at 1:16 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > Hi Stef. > > Been busy with work-work so haven't had time to review the EToys > removal. There are some methods identified that have not been > verified for removal vs. modification, but I've attached the mcz > here anyway. > > There are a few removals in TheWorldMainDockingBar in the etoys > removals, no mods there. > > The DockingBarMorph is, however, used in Polymorph for toolbars. > There is a potential conflict in Project>>finalEnterActions that is > defined in both Polymorph and EToysRemoval, the EToysRemoval version > should work with Polymorph though (based on Polymorph version with > an additional removal of "world presenter positionStandardPlayer"). > This will cause problems when updating Polymorph though, until I get > some time to split off the overrides into a separate package. > > As for Etoys removal, the package contains changed methods and stubs > (flagged for removal). There are some manual steps required to get > rid of extra cruft (mostly preferences and scripting forms). > > Regards, Gary. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > > > To: "An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open- > sourceSmalltalk" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 4:59 PM > Subject: [Pharo-project] removing the DockingBar and > TheWorldMainDockingBar > > >> Hi all >> >> I was ready to remove the novice mode and I think that we should >> remove DockingBar and TheWorldMainDockingBar >> Now gary it may introduce conflicts with etoy removal. >> What do you think? >> When will you send us the etoy removal? >> >> Stef >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > <Pinesoft-Removals-EToys-gvc. > 6.mcz>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 15, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] update 10072

by Marcus Denker

On 15.09.2008, at 12:42, Damien Cassou wrote: > Would be cool to create a release now. > yes, I will make a zip today (evening). besides, I want to do a one- cklick image based on the seaside one later this week. Marcus > On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Marcus Denker > <denker(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote: >> update10072 >> ----------- >> >> -> Issue 95: 7149 ChangeHooksTest-tearDown-M6702-rej >> -> Issue 174: XMLSupport can't be loaded into latest Pharo image >> -> Issue 52: 7102 ObjectPerformOrSendToFix (M1666) >> -> Issue 106: 7090 DSAunimplementedCleanup >> -> Issue 77: 7127 RemoveMappedCollection >> -> More ifNil: refactorings >> -> replace all occurrances of "isNil not" with "notNil" >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch >> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Damien Cassou > Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good > luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

Sept. 15, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Re: Re: Building VM Freetype

by Norbert Hartl

On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 14:44 +0300, Igor Stasenko wrote: > 2008/9/15 Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: > > On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 09:53 +0300, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> 2008/9/15 Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: > >> > On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 03:36 +0300, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> >> I managed to build squeak + freetype plugin on my ubuntu box. > >> >> Not sure, however how to package resulting binary. > >> >> > >> > I took a look at the svn repo and there is indeed no other > >> > option than installing the binary in the system. I wonder how > >> > the vm is usually packed. The links on squeakvm.org for the redhat > >> > and debian packages are disabled, too. > >> > > >> > I can help building debian packages. Maybe it would be good the check > >> > in the debian files into svn for easy package creation. > >> > > >> yes, > >> something like > >> 'make bin-package' > >> would be cool > >> > >> Btw, Ubuntu having a squeak in its binary packages collection, so i > >> think its better to contact with people who actually did it instead of > >> repeating doing same. But i can't remember who actually made it. > >> > > Ah btw. do you know apt-src??? Try to do > > > > apt-src install squeak-vm > > > well, it deals with source packages, not binary. People who care to > build squeak from sources should really get it from squeakvm.org > not from other sources. IMO. > I'm sure the sources are taken from squeakvm.org. It's just that a system like debian has source snapshots. So to build a certain version of a package you export those sources into the debian skeleton and build the binary from there. This way maintainer and others are able to build the same package from the same sources. If sources are updated you need to create a new version. It just differs in the way you do it. Using a tag from svn to get sources is not the way debian handles it. Please have a look at the debian/changelog file. That is the file where the builder takes the version number from. A comment what has changed comes along with it. The easiest way to deal with this is to integrate the debian skeleton in the squeakvm repository. Than you can checkout svn and create a package from it. And someone needs to update the debian repository so the new vm is integrated in the next release. Norbert > > In the squeak-vm directory you can invoke > > > > dpkg-buildpackage -nc -uc -rfakeroot > > > > to build the debian package. Sources are under platforms/ directory. > > > > I'll ask Matej were these files are checked in. > > > > Norbert > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > >

Sept. 15, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Learning how to use Polymorph

by Hilaire Fernandes

2008/9/15 Gary Chambers <gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com>: > Of course, if you want a window then you can use a StandardWindow (subclass > of SystemWindow) that includes the TEasilyThemed trait and delegate requests > for widgets to that instead. > > Hope that helps... Yep, I figure out during the week-end. I am now converting step by step to Polymorph. I see that Trait can really make such thinkgs easier. One think not obvious to me: how to pack a menu bar, toolbar in StandardWindow, as you did for your professionnal application. A canonical exemple will be very usefull Hilaire

Sept. 15, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Re: Re: Building VM Freetype

by Igor Stasenko

2008/9/15 Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: > On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 09:53 +0300, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> 2008/9/15 Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: >> > On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 03:36 +0300, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >> I managed to build squeak + freetype plugin on my ubuntu box. >> >> Not sure, however how to package resulting binary. >> >> >> > I took a look at the svn repo and there is indeed no other >> > option than installing the binary in the system. I wonder how >> > the vm is usually packed. The links on squeakvm.org for the redhat >> > and debian packages are disabled, too. >> > >> > I can help building debian packages. Maybe it would be good the check >> > in the debian files into svn for easy package creation. >> > >> yes, >> something like >> 'make bin-package' >> would be cool >> >> Btw, Ubuntu having a squeak in its binary packages collection, so i >> think its better to contact with people who actually did it instead of >> repeating doing same. But i can't remember who actually made it. >> > Ah btw. do you know apt-src??? Try to do > > apt-src install squeak-vm > well, it deals with source packages, not binary. People who care to build squeak from sources should really get it from squeakvm.org not from other sources. IMO. > In the squeak-vm directory you can invoke > > dpkg-buildpackage -nc -uc -rfakeroot > > to build the debian package. Sources are under platforms/ directory. > > I'll ask Matej were these files are checked in. > > Norbert > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Sept. 15, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] removing the DockingBar and TheWorldMainDockingBar

by Gary Chambers

I posted a reply to this but it is held "awaiting moderator approval" since the message body is too big. If you like I can repost but put the EToysRemovals on SqueakSource. Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> To: "An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open-sourceSmalltalk" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: [Pharo-project] removing the DockingBar and TheWorldMainDockingBar > Hi all > > I was ready to remove the novice mode and I think that we should remove > DockingBar and TheWorldMainDockingBar > Now gary it may introduce conflicts with etoy removal. > What do you think? > When will you send us the etoy removal? > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 15, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] removing the DockingBar and TheWorldMainDockingBar

by Gary Chambers

Hi Stef. Been busy with work-work so haven't had time to review the EToys removal. There are some methods identified that have not been verified for removal vs. modification, but I've attached the mcz here anyway. There are a few removals in TheWorldMainDockingBar in the etoys removals, no mods there. The DockingBarMorph is, however, used in Polymorph for toolbars. There is a potential conflict in Project>>finalEnterActions that is defined in both Polymorph and EToysRemoval, the EToysRemoval version should work with Polymorph though (based on Polymorph version with an additional removal of "world presenter positionStandardPlayer"). This will cause problems when updating Polymorph though, until I get some time to split off the overrides into a separate package. As for Etoys removal, the package contains changed methods and stubs (flagged for removal). There are some manual steps required to get rid of extra cruft (mostly preferences and scripting forms). Regards, Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> To: "An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open-sourceSmalltalk" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: [Pharo-project] removing the DockingBar and TheWorldMainDockingBar > Hi all > > I was ready to remove the novice mode and I think that we should remove > DockingBar and TheWorldMainDockingBar > Now gary it may introduce conflicts with etoy removal. > What do you think? > When will you send us the etoy removal? > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 15, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Re: Re: Building VM Freetype

by Norbert Hartl

On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 09:53 +0300, Igor Stasenko wrote: > 2008/9/15 Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: > > On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 03:36 +0300, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> I managed to build squeak + freetype plugin on my ubuntu box. > >> Not sure, however how to package resulting binary. > >> > > I took a look at the svn repo and there is indeed no other > > option than installing the binary in the system. I wonder how > > the vm is usually packed. The links on squeakvm.org for the redhat > > and debian packages are disabled, too. > > > > I can help building debian packages. Maybe it would be good the check > > in the debian files into svn for easy package creation. > > > yes, > something like > 'make bin-package' > would be cool > > Btw, Ubuntu having a squeak in its binary packages collection, so i > think its better to contact with people who actually did it instead of > repeating doing same. But i can't remember who actually made it. > Ah btw. do you know apt-src??? Try to do apt-src install squeak-vm In the squeak-vm directory you can invoke dpkg-buildpackage -nc -uc -rfakeroot to build the debian package. Sources are under platforms/ directory. I'll ask Matej were these files are checked in. Norbert

Sept. 15, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Learning how to use Polymorph

by Gary Chambers

Hi Hilaire, The example builder is specialised so that the example dialogs are not opened modally, just so it is easier to explore using each. There are currently two "standard" ways of utilising Polymorph widgets, depending on whether you are working at the Morph or Model level. For Morph based things: Either include the trait TEasilyThemed that provides access to the api for the morph or subclass ComposableMorph, which does effectively the same thing (assuming it is a "from scratch" morph that does not need to inherit from elsewhere. As an alternative, you may use the "model" way below... For Model based things: Use UITheme newBuilder and request the api from that object (just a ComposableMorph). For example, a method to return a list for a model might look like: newWorkingCopyListMorph "Answer a new list morph for the working copy list." ^UITheme builder newListFor: self list: #workingCopyList selected: #workingCopyListIndex changeSelected: #workingCopyListIndex: help: nil Of course, if you want a window then you can use a StandardWindow (subclass of SystemWindow) that includes the TEasilyThemed trait and delegate requests for widgets to that instead. Hope that helps... Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hilaire Fernandes" <hilaire(a)ofset.org> To: "An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open-sourceSmalltalk" <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: [Pharo-project] Learning how to use Polymorph > Gary, > > I am looking at Polymorph examples, to start learning it. >>From your example, I see you have this ExampleBuilderMorph class > Is it a class I can use to build my application interface, or do I > need to subclass another MorphicModel (this last class is pretty > large) ? > > I see you are using trait for this class also. > > Hilaire > > > -- > http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 15, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] update 10072

by Damien Cassou

Would be cool to create a release now. On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Marcus Denker <denker(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote: > update10072 > ----------- > > -> Issue 95: 7149 ChangeHooksTest-tearDown-M6702-rej > -> Issue 174: XMLSupport can't be loaded into latest Pharo image > -> Issue 52: 7102 ObjectPerformOrSendToFix (M1666) > -> Issue 106: 7090 DSAunimplementedCleanup > -> Issue 77: 7127 RemoveMappedCollection > -> More ifNil: refactorings > -> replace all occurrances of "isNil not" with "notNil" > > -- > Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch > http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

Sept. 15, 2008