September 2008 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Recover last changes and friends are useful menu items

by Igor Stasenko

2008/9/21 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Hi > > I was checking the clean up of the menus. > This is good but > > the changes...items are really missing to me. > Especially the recover from .... > We certainly do not need all of the changes related items but some > are really important. > ideed, the changes menu are useful. Especially for some of us who experiencing VM/Image crashes often (because of swimming in hot waters :) > Then from the windows menu item > I would keep > > > > > and remove Delete both of the above. > > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Sept. 22, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: [update] 10074

by Igor Stasenko

2008/9/22 Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com>: > Hi, > The options (in Preference Browser) are :- > > MonitorTypeLCD or MonitorTypeCRT (effectively, turns sub-pixel > anti-aliasing on or off) > GlyphContrast - from 1 palest to 100 darkest; 50 is the default. > Hinting mode - one of > HintingFull - no anti-aliasing - not very good in my opinion > HintingLight - aligns only horizontal edges to pixel boundaries > (similar to how OSX does it) - the default > HintingNone - no hinting - does not attempt to align any edges with > (sub)pixel boundaries > HintingNormal - aligns both horizontal and vertical edges to > (sub)pixel boundaries (similar to how Windows does it) > Yes, but these options shown with checkboxes, not with radio buttons (when you must choose one among them). This needs to be fixed. I found that HintingNormal is best on my display. HintingLight renders edges with too high color contrast (for my eyes). Changing the GlyphContrast makes the whole glyphs dim (while i expected only edges contrast). > Only LCD screens where the subpixel stripes are ordered RGB, and run > vertically are supported. > These are the most common type of LCD; others include.. > horizontal stripes. > BGR stripes > some non-striped arrangement of the RGB subpixels. e.g. the OLPC XO screen > > Supporting BGR will probably be easy. > Supporting horizontal stripes will be harder . > Non-striped arrangements is hardest - one would need to know the physical > pixel co-ordinates for each BitBlt pixel operation. > > What settings do you use in Ubuntu? > RGB > Cheers, > Andy > > "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:4a5f5f320809220115v44246b53u91d5a2607109fc6@mail.gmail.com... >> >> Everything looks nice except that i'm not very happy with subpixel >> rendering on my display. >> >> In Ubuntu you have options, to choose a display type , most preferable >> for subpixel rendering, and i guess, that freetype renders glyphs in >> worst way, so when i see it on display, i can easily detect a blue/red >> pixels surrounding glyphs. >> >> Is there an option in freetype, to choose the subpixel rendering mode? >> >> Or maybe its because my eyes is still sharp :) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Sept. 22, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] removing the DockingBar and TheWorldMainDockingBar

by Gary Chambers

CS would be better, just had to use a package due to being interleaved with other work... Note that with MC there is no mechanism for removing a method! Perhaps I should have just done the changed methods along with an initialize that would clean up other dependencies, after which an unload of EToys could be done. Regards, Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus Denker" <denker(a)iam.unibe.ch> To: "An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open-sourceSmalltalk" <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] removing the DockingBar and TheWorldMainDockingBar On 21.09.2008, at 18:26, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Marcus and others > > Do you think that the cs approach is good because after applying them we > will have to publish > new packages? > So could you harvest these ones for example and let me know what do you > think and if cs is better? > because I could produce also packages. > Packages are good, too. Just a removal package that re-classifies the methods is not good. Marcus > Stef > > On Sep 20, 2008, at 10:29 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Another one :) >> Cleaning the inspector. >> >> <EtoyRemoval-002-CleanInspector.2.cs> >> >> >> Stef_______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 22, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: [ANN] Demo with both Truetype + Polymorph

by Adrian Lienhard

On Sep 22, 2008, at 11:00 , Andrew Tween wrote: [...] > Make sure that you start it by double clicking Pharo.exe I double clicked Pharo.exe and then selected the image that I had copied on the desktop. Windows also asks me whether I want to unzip files before running the application, and I say no. > Evaluate, > SmalltalkImage current listLoadedModules > to check that FT2Plugin is there its not > and > FT2Version current > which answers nil if the plugin doesn't connect with the > freetype6.dll correctly. returns nil. Maybe somebody else can try on XP? Adrian > Cheers, > Andy > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> >> >> Does the Windows VM also include the plugin? >> >> Adrian >> >> >> On Sep 22, 2008, at 10:02 , Marcus Denker wrote: >> >>> >>> On 22.09.2008, at 09:47, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> >>>> Really nice Marcus! >>>> >>> >>> All praise of course goes to Gary Chambers (Polymorph) and Andy >>> Tween (TT Support). I just loaded the >>> packages. >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> >>>> On 21 Sep 2008, at 22:38, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here is a Demo with TrueType fonts and Polymorph installed (only >>>>> tested on Mac). >>>>> >>>>> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/7268/Pharo0.1-PolymorphTT.zip >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> -- >>> Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 22, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: [ANN] Demo with both Truetype + Polymorph

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

seems ok for me on XP (see pic) ... and I love it :) >>Really nice Marcus! >All praise of course goes to Gary Chambers (Polymorph) and Andy Tween (TT Support). I just loaded the >packages. > Marcus Kudos to every active members actually ;) keep the good work... CÃ©drick

Sept. 22, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: [ANN] Demo with both Truetype + Polymorph

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

seems ok for me on XP (see pic) ... and I love it :) >>Really nice Marcus! >All praise of course goes to Gary Chambers (Polymorph) and Andy Tween (TT Support). I just loaded the >packages. > Marcus Kudos to every active members actually ;) keep the good work... CÃ©drick

Sept. 22, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] removing the DockingBar and TheWorldMainDockingBar

by Marcus Denker

On 22.09.2008, at 00:48, Matthew Fulmer wrote: > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 09:28:08PM +0200, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >> On 20.09.2008, at 21:20, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Hi gary >>> >>> to relax from real men work (fixing my house :), I was browsing your >>> package. >>> I would like to know what is the semantics of self flag: #toRemove >>> why did you keep the method in general do we have to look at the >>> senders? >>> >> >> another question is if it's really good to use monticello for the >> removal... if we load it, >> it moves all overrides into the removal-override category. These we >> then would have to re-categorize >> by hand. > > MC1.5 fixed this problem long ago. When overrides are removed, > the old version is restored. > Cool! But that does not help here: the removal package changes the methods to the state that you want to keep. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

Sept. 22, 2008

[Pharo-project] Re: [ANN] Demo with both Truetype + Polymorph

by Andrew Tween

Hi, "Adrian Lienhard" <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote in message news:8F7BA98D-D833-471A-9F0D-2BB48483CB73@netstyle.ch... > This is how it looks on Windows XP. > > That's not good :) It works ok for me on Win Vista. It appears that the FT2Plugin is not working for you. Make sure that you start it by double clicking Pharo.exe Evaluate, SmalltalkImage current listLoadedModules to check that FT2Plugin is there and FT2Version current which answers nil if the plugin doesn't connect with the freetype6.dll correctly. Cheers, Andy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Does the Windows VM also include the plugin? > > Adrian > > > On Sep 22, 2008, at 10:02 , Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On 22.09.2008, at 09:47, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>> Really nice Marcus! >>> >> >> All praise of course goes to Gary Chambers (Polymorph) and Andy >> Tween (TT Support). I just loaded the >> packages. >> >> Marcus >> >> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On 21 Sep 2008, at 22:38, Marcus Denker wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Here is a Demo with TrueType fonts and Polymorph installed (only >>>> tested on Mac). >>>> >>>> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/7268/Pharo0.1-PolymorphTT.zip >>>> >>>> >>>> Marcus >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch >> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 22, 2008

[Pharo-project] Re: [update] 10074

by Andrew Tween

Hi, The options (in Preference Browser) are :- MonitorTypeLCD or MonitorTypeCRT (effectively, turns sub-pixel anti-aliasing on or off) GlyphContrast - from 1 palest to 100 darkest; 50 is the default. Hinting mode - one of HintingFull - no anti-aliasing - not very good in my opinion HintingLight - aligns only horizontal edges to pixel boundaries (similar to how OSX does it) - the default HintingNone - no hinting - does not attempt to align any edges with (sub)pixel boundaries HintingNormal - aligns both horizontal and vertical edges to (sub)pixel boundaries (similar to how Windows does it) Only LCD screens where the subpixel stripes are ordered RGB, and run vertically are supported. These are the most common type of LCD; others include.. horizontal stripes. BGR stripes some non-striped arrangement of the RGB subpixels. e.g. the OLPC XO screen Supporting BGR will probably be easy. Supporting horizontal stripes will be harder . Non-striped arrangements is hardest - one would need to know the physical pixel co-ordinates for each BitBlt pixel operation. What settings do you use in Ubuntu? Cheers, Andy "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:4a5f5f320809220115v44246b53u91d5a2607109fc6@mail.gmail.com... > Everything looks nice except that i'm not very happy with subpixel > rendering on my display. > > In Ubuntu you have options, to choose a display type , most preferable > for subpixel rendering, and i guess, that freetype renders glyphs in > worst way, so when i see it on display, i can easily detect a blue/red > pixels surrounding glyphs. > > Is there an option in freetype, to choose the subpixel rendering mode? > > Or maybe its because my eyes is still sharp :)

Sept. 22, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Demo with both Truetype + Polymorph

by Adrian Lienhard

This is how it looks on Windows XP. Does the Windows VM also include the plugin? Adrian On Sep 22, 2008, at 10:02 , Marcus Denker wrote: > > On 22.09.2008, at 09:47, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> Really nice Marcus! >> > > All praise of course goes to Gary Chambers (Polymorph) and Andy > Tween (TT Support). I just loaded the > packages. > > Marcus > > >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 21 Sep 2008, at 22:38, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >>> >>> Here is a Demo with TrueType fonts and Polymorph installed (only >>> tested on Mac). >>> >>> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/7268/Pharo0.1-PolymorphTT.zip >>> >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> -- >>> Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch > http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 22, 2008