September 2008 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] On Icons

by Lukas Renggli

> something I would love to have..... > is a means to know whether a method is defined in multiple class or only > the one I'm browsing. There is the annotation panel (to enable in the preferences) that shows this and other similar information. It slows everything down though. Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Sept. 24, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ANN] Demo with both Truetype+Polymorph

by Bill Schwab

It includes a Linux VM with the shutdown prompt fix - MUCH appreciated, not to mention the packages that were the point of demo :) Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr 09/24/08 3:57 PM >>> thanks for the report. I guess that marcus will look into that. I do not know how he made the one click precisely. Stef

Sept. 24, 2008

[Pharo-project] about preparing the first release

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys I will work using the pinesoft etoy removal package. But it can take time to do that carefully since etoy put its fingers everywhere. Now I would really like that we define a date for the first release. I would really like to have something for maximum end of october. What about you? Stef

Sept. 24, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ANN] Demo with both Truetype+Polymorph

by Simon Kirk

Further to what I said earlier: it's not pasting from OSX - it was the string I copied in the "bare" image that would paste happily into the Pharo image. Cheers, S On 24 Sep 2008, at 20:57, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > thanks for the report. > I guess that marcus will look into that. I do not know how he made > the one click precisely. > > Stef > >>>> >> Well, I'm using the one-click image from this thread (from here: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/7268/Pharo0.1-PolymorphTT.zip) >> , so I presume it's running a VM that gets packaged with it? >> Certainly when running an image "bare" I'm running it with the VM I >> have installed on the Mac, which is 3.8.18Beta3U, and copy and >> paste works fine there. >> >> However, I think when I'm running the one-click image, I'm running >> a VM packaged within? >> >> For comparison, here is the printit output from "SmalltalkImage >> current vmVersion" on an image run "standalone": 'Squeak3.8.1 of >> ''28 Aug 2006'' [latest update: #6747] Squeak VM 3.8.18b3' >> >> And here's the printit output from the Pharo one-click linked >> above: 'Squeak3.8.1 of ''28 Aug 2006'' [latest update: #6747] >> Pharo'. >> >> I don't know if that helps. >> >> Ah, now things get extra weird! Copy and paste has *literally just* >> started working. I have seen this before. Perhaps it's because I >> tried a copy and paste on the "bare" image, then on Pharo? I can't >> say for sure what the conditions are yet, but perhaps somebody else >> has seen it. >> >> Either way, Gary definitely saw the same behaviour earlier today >> over my shoulder so he can confirm I'm not going mad :) >> >> >>>> I'm not sure if I'm repeating an earlier bug report here, or >>>> something already known, sorry if I am. >>>> >>>> Other than that, the image is looking really good :) >>> >>> >>> :) >>> >>> I want more :) I want that when I open a class browser it looks >>> really cool :) >> >> Amen to that! :) >> >> S >> >> ****************************************************************************************************************************************** >> This email is from Pinesoft Limited. Its contents are confidential >> to the intended recipient(s) at the email address(es) to which it >> has been addressed. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone >> other than the addressee(s), nor may it be copied in anyway. If >> received in error, please contact the sender, then delete it from >> your system. Although this email and attachments are believed to be >> free of virus, or any other defect which might affect any computer >> or IT system into which they are received and opened, it is the >> responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they are virus free >> and no responsibility is accepted by Pinesoft for any loss or >> damage arising in any way from receipt or use thereof. >> ******************************************************************************************************************************************* >> >> >> Pinesoft Limited are registered in England, Registered number: >> 2914825. Registered office: 266-268 High Street, Waltham Cross, >> Herts, EN8 7EA >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ****************************************************************************************************************************************** This email is from Pinesoft Limited. Its contents are confidential to the intended recipient(s) at the email address(es) to which it has been addressed. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee(s), nor may it be copied in anyway. If received in error, please contact the sender, then delete it from your system. Although this email and attachments are believed to be free of virus, or any other defect which might affect any computer or IT system into which they are received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they are virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Pinesoft for any loss or damage arising in any way from receipt or use thereof. ******************************************************************************************************************************************* Pinesoft Limited are registered in England, Registered number: 2914825. Registered office: 266-268 High Street, Waltham Cross, Herts, EN8 7EA

Sept. 24, 2008

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 10075

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I removed ComponentLikeModel. Tomorrow morning we will applied our tools on pharo and start to fix package cycles. Stef going to bed :)

Sept. 24, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Re: Re: Re: [ANN] Demo with both Truetype+Polymorph

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks for the report. I guess that marcus will look into that. I do not know how he made the one click precisely. Stef >>> > Well, I'm using the one-click image from this thread (from here: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/7268/Pharo0.1-PolymorphTT.zip) > , so I presume it's running a VM that gets packaged with it? > Certainly when running an image "bare" I'm running it with the VM I > have installed on the Mac, which is 3.8.18Beta3U, and copy and paste > works fine there. > > However, I think when I'm running the one-click image, I'm running a > VM packaged within? > > For comparison, here is the printit output from "SmalltalkImage > current vmVersion" on an image run "standalone": 'Squeak3.8.1 of > ''28 Aug 2006'' [latest update: #6747] Squeak VM 3.8.18b3' > > And here's the printit output from the Pharo one-click linked > above: 'Squeak3.8.1 of ''28 Aug 2006'' [latest update: #6747] Pharo'. > > I don't know if that helps. > > Ah, now things get extra weird! Copy and paste has *literally just* > started working. I have seen this before. Perhaps it's because I > tried a copy and paste on the "bare" image, then on Pharo? I can't > say for sure what the conditions are yet, but perhaps somebody else > has seen it. > > Either way, Gary definitely saw the same behaviour earlier today > over my shoulder so he can confirm I'm not going mad :) > > >>> I'm not sure if I'm repeating an earlier bug report here, or >>> something already known, sorry if I am. >>> >>> Other than that, the image is looking really good :) >> >> >> :) >> >> I want more :) I want that when I open a class browser it looks >> really cool :) > > Amen to that! :) > > S > > ****************************************************************************************************************************************** > This email is from Pinesoft Limited. Its contents are confidential > to the intended recipient(s) at the email address(es) to which it > has been addressed. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone > other than the addressee(s), nor may it be copied in anyway. If > received in error, please contact the sender, then delete it from > your system. Although this email and attachments are believed to be > free of virus, or any other defect which might affect any computer > or IT system into which they are received and opened, it is the > responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they are virus free > and no responsibility is accepted by Pinesoft for any loss or damage > arising in any way from receipt or use thereof. > ******************************************************************************************************************************************* > > > Pinesoft Limited are registered in England, Registered number: > 2914825. Registered office: 266-268 High Street, Waltham Cross, > Herts, EN8 7EA > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 24, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] possible TODOs...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Yes I saw Now I imagine that we want to get rid of Project too. I ask because I was looking at EmbeddedWorld.... Stef >> > no. I only purged the data, which means it does not load anymore. > (there is a fix for that on the bugtracker). > > Marcus > > -- > Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch > http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 24, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] About Flap

by Igor Stasenko

2008/9/24 Marcus Denker <denker(a)iam.unibe.ch>: > > On 24.09.2008, at 20:14, Bill Schwab wrote: > >> Lukas, >> >> That's fine if my hands are on the keyboard, but if I have one on the >> mouse (common when browsing), then (in Dolphin at least), I end up >> either right clicking on a class in an open browser, or hitting a >> toolbar button. For the more obscure tools, the shell menus (Tools) do >> the trick. Shortcuts are great, but we should also provide mouse-based >> options. >> > > remember: there will be a menu, with a "tools" entry. And there will > always be the world-menu (click on the backround). > > the flap is not faster in the number of clicks than a pulldown menu... > well, with flaps is more convenient because you can drag a tool window and place it where you want to. While from menu - first, it placing a window automatically, and then often you need to arrange it again. How about putting a window in hand, when you opening it from menu? I find it very convenient and useful feature - it gives you chance to arrange window with no extra clicks. > Marcus > > -- > Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch > http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Sept. 24, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] possible TODOs...

by Marcus Denker

On 24.09.2008, at 21:31, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi marcus > > did you remove squeakmap already? > no. I only purged the data, which means it does not load anymore. (there is a fix for that on the bugtracker). Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

Sept. 24, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Other Morphic question: allKnownNames

by Marcus Denker

On 24.09.2008, at 21:27, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > We are in sync then > I think that morphic will be quite small once we will get done with > it. :) > I will release ComponentLikeModel removal > > BTW scriptEditorMoprh is not in etoy package but it smells like it. > I think that I will try to remove it too. > What do you think? > Yes, that's etoys. I think there was some work going on to make the tiles more general and use them for non-kids stuff, too. see senders of #universalTiles. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

Sept. 24, 2008