August 2008 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] About milestone

by bryce＠kampjes.demon.co.uk

Bill Schwab writes: > Bryce, > > That is an interesting thought, but a quick check in gedit and Pharo > shows that there is a difference - gedit behaves much more as I would > expect than does Pharo. That is with with both defaults under Ubuntu's > keyboard options, and with a couple of tweaks that looked promising. > There is a shift/numeric option that makes shift-control-arrow work > though, so there still could be options that would explain everything, > especially if you have something set that forces numbers. Which > distribution do you use? I did the test using an Exupery VM on Gentoo. I've Ubuntu here as well though haven't tested numeric keys on it. You could try using an Exupery VM instead of the one you're using. I haven't changed anything that should effect this, it may be built from a different version of the C source and VMMaker though. The Exupery VM's are here: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3945 > Take your time; let me know when you are ready to fiddle with it. > Thanks! Will do and thanks. Bryce

Aug. 21, 2008

[Pharo-project] [ANN] prebuild 10062

by Marcus Denker

Hi, There is now a prebuilt image for 10062 on https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 ChangeLog since 10055: ------------------------------------------------------ update10056 remove VeryPickyMorph + fix Comments... behavior in Monticello ------------------------------------------------------ update10057 remove duplicated code, remove unused code ------------------------------------------------------ update10058 cleaning duplicated method, part II ------------------------------------------------------ update10059 - remove duplicated / unused code - small refactoring (e.g size=0 --> isEmpty, use #isEmptyOrNil) - undeclaredCleanup in ComponentLikeModel - rename all calls of #submorphOfClass: to #findA: - clean up BasicButton (which should be removed...) ------------------------------------------------------ update10060 - remove GeeMail experiment. - fix undeclared Installer reference. - remove StoryboardBookMorph, ZoomAndScrollControllerMorph, ZoomAndScrollMorph ------------------------------------------------------ update10061 - remove EtoyProjectHistoryMorph, StretchyImageMorph, EToyProjectQueryMorph, EToyProjectRenamerMorph, EtoyGenericDialogMorph, EtoyProjectDetailsMorph, ShowEmptyTextMorph, EToyCommunicatorMorph, EtoyLoginMorph, EToyHierarchicalTextGizmo, EToyHierarchicalTextMorph, SimplerTextContainer, EToyTextNode, EToyTextNodeWrapper. ------------------------------------------------------ update10062 - move the code for making a copy of a class into Class (from Browser). - fix for printing not initialized LargeIntegers (fixes printing of specialObjectsArray) -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

Aug. 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on latest version

by laurent laffont

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 1:28 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > I do not have the time to look deeper now. Ask in squeak-dev. > You can also have a look at startUp* methods > OK Laurent

Aug. 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on latest version

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I do not have the time to look deeper now. Ask in squeak-dev. You can also have a look at startUp* methods stef On Aug 21, 2008, at 10:12 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Marcus Denker <denker(a)iam.unibe.ch> > wrote: > > On 21.08.2008, at 07:53, laurent laffont wrote: > > > > Disable the preference general > warnIfNoSourcesFile > > I don't want to do this manually: I want my tools to download > damien's zip archive extract it and run all the tests. I don't want > to prepare manually the image for testing. > > > > Preferences disable: #warnIfNoSourcesFile > > I do that, and try other things, it doesn't work. It seems that the > warning is thrown *before* the loading of the .st script given in > squeakvm arguments. > > I want to check for this, but I have difficulties to find code > related to image initialization / startup ... I'm so newbie :( > > -- > Laurent Laffont > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on latest version

by laurent laffont

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Marcus Denker <denker(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote: > > On 21.08.2008, at 07:53, laurent laffont wrote: > > >> >> Disable the preference general > warnIfNoSourcesFile >> >> I don't want to do this manually: I want my tools to download damien's zip >> archive extract it and run all the tests. I don't want to prepare manually >> the image for testing. >> >> >> > Preferences disable: #warnIfNoSourcesFile I do that, and try other things, it doesn't work. It seems that the warning is thrown *before* the loading of the .st script given in squeakvm arguments. I want to check for this, but I have difficulties to find code related to image initialization / startup ... I'm so newbie :( -- Laurent Laffont

Aug. 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on latest version

by Marcus Denker

On 21.08.2008, at 06:07, Bill Schwab wrote: > Dolphin's > find-methods-containing-text is also MUCH faster than Pharo's. It > might just be the relative speeds of the two systems (I hope not), > lack > of important primitives, or perhaps code that can be greatly improved. The reason for slow search in source-text is that the sources are read from Disk. I did once a small experiment to store the source as a method property instead. This made the seach faster a lot. The whole source/changes stuff is really ugly. It was designed for a machine of 30 years ago and the code is a mess. In addition, it's ugly and slow. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

Aug. 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on latest version

by Marcus Denker

On 21.08.2008, at 07:53, laurent laffont wrote: > > > Disable the preference general > warnIfNoSourcesFile > > I don't want to do this manually: I want my tools to download > damien's zip archive extract it and run all the tests. I don't want > to prepare manually the image for testing. > > Preferences disable: #warnIfNoSourcesFile -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

Aug. 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on latest version

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

You should have a look at keith package there is Installer and another one that allows one to feed the popup Ideally we should remove the pop up Now you can specify a script in which you will disable the preferences Preferences disable: something like that On Aug 21, 2008, at 7:53 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Matthew Fulmer <tapplek(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:09:32PM +0200, laurent laffont wrote: > > Thank you. > > > > I have another super newbie question. I want to disable the > warning that > > SqueakV39.sources is not found when we load an image. I found the > preference > > and the message Preferences>>warnIfNoSourcesFile but this is not > called on > > startup (I've put a halt in it to check) > > > > I try to find a tool to search for the string "Squeak cannot find > the > > sources file named ..." to know which code popup the dialog. > > Disable the preference general > warnIfNoSourcesFile > > I don't want to do this manually: I want my tools to download > damien's zip archive extract it and run all the tests. I don't want > to prepare manually the image for testing. > > > > > I want to disable this dialog and the "Enter your initials" one by > code in > > my squeakci script, as it prevent me from drinking my coffee or > taking a nap > > while all tests runs without any human intervention. > > I think this is the code: > > Utilities authorInitials: 'test' > > OK, thank you. > > -- > Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/ > > > -- > Laurent Laffont > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on latest version

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

squeak was not really engineered over some years, just funnily hacked and we pay the price now. Stef On Aug 21, 2008, at 6:07 AM, Bill Schwab wrote: > Stef, > > Thanks for the pointer. It could use some work though. One of my > favorite mantras for GUI design is "never punish the user." I have > been > roundly scolded :) It seems I was confused over what would be used > for > search string, and was thus forced to wait a fairly long time for > results having little to do with my intended search. > > If I may mix features a little, Dolphin sometimes populates prompters > with either text on the clipboard, and perhaps current line/selected > text, allowing one to accept/cancel an action w/o risk of assuming a > search the user did not intend to do. Dolphin's > find-methods-containing-text is also MUCH faster than Pharo's. It > might just be the relative speeds of the two systems (I hope not), > lack > of important primitives, or perhaps code that can be greatly improved. > The latter reminds me of DSDN, which I wrote for Dolphin, getting it > to > (reliably) CRAWL through searches across documentation, newsgroup > archives, and the image itself. Ian Bartholomew promptly made it > FLY by > comparison (measured in orders of magnitude, as I recall). > Hopefully a > similar coding style could buy us a big boost here. > > Somewhat related, Dolphin's search for references to either the > selected > method or to text that can be entered in a prompter. The non- > prompting > search is available from a context menu in the method pane, so it > tends > to "just work." > > Bill > > > > > > > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. > University of Florida > Department of Anesthesiology > PO Box 100254 > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 > > Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu > Tel: (352) 273-6785 > FAX: (352) 392-7029 > >>>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr 08/20/08 5:51 PM >>> > You bring the menu on the method pane > then more.... > then source code with .... > it will scan all the methods for the string you pass > > On Aug 20, 2008, at 10:09 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > >> Thank you. >> >> I have another super newbie question. I want to disable the warning >> that SqueakV39.sources is not found when we load an image. I found >> the preference and the message Preferences>>warnIfNoSourcesFile but >> this is not called on startup (I've put a halt in it to check) >> >> I try to find a tool to search for the string "Squeak cannot find >> the sources file named ..." to know which code popup the dialog. >> >> I want to disable this dialog and the "Enter your initials" one by >> code in my squeakci script, as it prevent me from drinking my coffee >> or taking a nap while all tests runs without any human intervention. >> >> Laurent >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on latest version

by laurent laffont

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Matthew Fulmer <tapplek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:09:32PM +0200, laurent laffont wrote: > > Thank you. > > > > I have another super newbie question. I want to disable the warning that > > SqueakV39.sources is not found when we load an image. I found the > preference > > and the message Preferences>>warnIfNoSourcesFile but this is not called > on > > startup (I've put a halt in it to check) > > > > I try to find a tool to search for the string "Squeak cannot find the > > sources file named ..." to know which code popup the dialog. > > Disable the preference general > warnIfNoSourcesFile I don't want to do this manually: I want my tools to download damien's zip archive extract it and run all the tests. I don't want to prepare manually the image for testing. > > > I want to disable this dialog and the "Enter your initials" one by code > in > > my squeakci script, as it prevent me from drinking my coffee or taking a > nap > > while all tests runs without any human intervention. > > I think this is the code: > > Utilities authorInitials: 'test' OK, thank you. > -- > Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/ > > -- Laurent Laffont

Aug. 21, 2008