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[Pharo-project] Last version of scriptloader

by Alexandre Bergel

Dear all, It seems there is a problem with the last version of scriptloader. OB does not get properly loaded. I am investigating... Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 1, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Some recent development done with Pharo

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks hilaire this is good to know that DrGeo is running well on pharo. Stef On Aug 1, 2008, at 5:29 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > I have been using happily these past two weeks Pharo for newer > development in DrGeo, > http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/2008/08/01/DrGeo-II-macro-cons… > > Keep the good work, it is important for people like needing a reliable > and well maintained image. > > Btw, regarding UI feel, I found using NiceFont and NON-rounded > window give a me a nice look and feel. > > Hilaire > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 1, 2008

[Pharo-project] Some recent development done with Pharo

by Hilaire Fernandes

I have been using happily these past two weeks Pharo for newer development in DrGeo, http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/2008/08/01/DrGeo-II-macro-cons… Keep the good work, it is important for people like needing a reliable and well maintained image. Btw, regarding UI feel, I found using NiceFont and NON-rounded window give a me a nice look and feel. Hilaire

Aug. 1, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] http://www.pharo-project.org/

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

still I would love to have a good wiki. I know that samuel was working on the wiki. stef On Jul 31, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > On Jul 31, 2008, at 09:15 , Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On 30.07.2008, at 17:23, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> http://www.pharo-project.org/ is down... >> >> Did we ever configure the domain to point anywhere? Not as much as >> I remember... > > no, not that I know. > > We could make it redirect to the Google project page until we have > the web site, but I think its not critical since we don't have a > product to sell yet. > > Adrian > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 1, 2008

[Pharo-project] Fwd: About true type fonts

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Begin forwarded message: > From: Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com> > Date: August 1, 2008 3:12:47 PM CEDT > To: StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Subject: RE: About true type fonts > > Hi Stef, > > It is unlikely that I will be doing any more work on FreeType, but I > believe the current version is complete enough to be useful. > > I have created a Pharo image with everything installed. > You can find it here... > http://www.zen61439.zen.co.uk/ft_pharo/ft_pharo.zip > > Included in that zip is the image + changes files, and any packages > that have been installed. > > You will see that there is a sar file , FreeType Plus Squeak Sans > Font Pack.small.sar. This installs a ttf font (SqueakSans) as the > list, code, menu font etc. > I created the SqueakSans font from BitStream Vera Sans. The main > reason for creating this was so that I could change the embedding > flags to allow it to be legally embedded. > (Bitstream Vera fonts have the flag set so that it can't be > embedded, although I doubt anyone would really mind). > > Having modified the flags, the Bitstream license states that the > font must no longer be named 'Bitstream' or 'Vera', so I named it > 'Squeak Sans'. > The contents of those ttf files are embedded in the image, so it > isn't necessary to distribute the font files with the image - > FreeType loads the font from memory. > > If you run the image, and you have all the required plugins > installed, then you should see this...http://www.zen61439.zen.co.uk/ft_pharo/ft_pharo_both_plugins_installed.JPG > > If the FT2Plugin is missing then you will see this ... http://www.zen61439.zen.co.uk/ft_pharo/ft_pharo_plugins_missing.JPG > > If the FT2Plugin is present, but the modified BitBlt plugin is > missing, then you should see this...http://www.zen61439.zen.co.uk/ft_pharo/ft_pharo_bitbltPlugin_missing.JPG > > (in the last jpg , there is no subpixel anti aliasing, but the > difference may not be noticable unless you magnify the images) > > Also in the zip, is a sar file containing the plugins for Windows > and Linux... FreeTypePluginInstaller3.sar > When installed, the sar will attempt to copy the plugins to the > correct location on disk. > > The FTPlugin is now included in the Mac VM. > The modified BitBlt plugin (to enable subpixel anti-aliasing) for > the Mac is available here...ftp://ftp.smalltalkconsulting.com/experimental/BitBltPlugin.v1.0.0b1… > > There should be enough info here to enable people to run the image > and play around. > > Please feel free to ask questions, and to forward this to the Pharo > mailing list. > > Cheers, > Andy > > > > From: stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > > To: amtween(a)hotmail.com > > Subject: About true type fonts > > Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:20:10 +0200 > > > > Hi andy > > > > For pharo we are discussing about fonts and I wanted to know > > the status of the truetype support. > > > > stef > > > Make a mini you on Windows Live Messenger! Try it Now!

Aug. 1, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] About file.... (argh)

by Hilaire Fernandes

Really I am not sure at all LGPL go to this level to force you to reuse the same LGPL license if you only took idea but no code. This is meanly trap from the microsoft world with their open code stuff. At the very last the only reference to look at is the LGPL text itself http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/lgpl.html I have not time now to check it... Hilaire 2008/8/1 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>: >> > Well, looking at GST is probably not a good idea when working on such >> > a project, because it is LGPL licensed. I am just saying that I like >> > the design and implementation of this particular library (which could >> > already mean derivate work). >> >> Why being LGPL licensed may be an issue? > > Taking an idea from (L)GPL code forces you to use (L)GPL for your code > as well. See the recent discussions (mess) in the Squeak and Swazoo > mailing-lists. The exact meaning of "taking an idea" depends on the > interpretation. Some people argue that only reading (L)GPL code makes > your code (L)GPL. > > Lukas > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

Aug. 1, 2008

[Pharo-project] ISSUE #127 -- Adding comments history in Monticello

by Alexandre Bergel

ISSUE #127 A new button when saving a file Waiting in PharoInBox Easy to adjust (e.g., having the last comment per default). Just let me know. -=-=-=--=-=-=--=-=-=--=-=-=- Name: Monticello-AlexandreBergel.322 Author: AlexandreBergel Time: 1 August 2008, 12:23:53 pm UUID: 06ae779d-24d6-4b1f-82a0-d56bff9dcce8 Ancestors: Monticello-AlexandreBergel.321 Added comments when saving -=-=-=--=-=-=--=-=-=--=-=-=- Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 1, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] About file.... (argh)

by Damien Cassou

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > Well, looking at GST is probably not a good idea when working on such >> > a project, because it is LGPL licensed. I am just saying that I like >> > the design and implementation of this particular library (which could >> > already mean derivate work). >> >> Why being LGPL licensed may be an issue? > > Taking an idea from (L)GPL code forces you to use (L)GPL for your code > as well. See the recent discussions (mess) in the Squeak and Swazoo > mailing-lists. The exact meaning of "taking an idea" depends on the > interpretation. Some people argue that only reading (L)GPL code makes > your code (L)GPL. A library under LGPL can be used in any kind of software open-source or not. This is the difference between LGPL and GPL. The problem here, is that we don't just want to use the library but make a derivative work (I guess). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Lesser_General_Public_License Would it be possible for Gnu Smalltalk to release this library under LGPL and MIT? -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

Aug. 1, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] About file.... (argh)

by Michael Rueger

Lukas Renggli wrote: > Taking an idea from (L)GPL code forces you to use (L)GPL for your code > as well. See the recent discussions (mess) in the Squeak and Swazoo > mailing-lists. The exact meaning of "taking an idea" depends on the > interpretation. Some people argue that only reading (L)GPL code makes > your code (L)GPL. Which just demonstrates the whole mindset behind (L)GPL licenses. They actually take away freedom... (Almost) worse than the patent craziness... Michael

Aug. 1, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] About file.... (argh)

by Lukas Renggli

> > Well, looking at GST is probably not a good idea when working on such > > a project, because it is LGPL licensed. I am just saying that I like > > the design and implementation of this particular library (which could > > already mean derivate work). > > Why being LGPL licensed may be an issue? Taking an idea from (L)GPL code forces you to use (L)GPL for your code as well. See the recent discussions (mess) in the Squeak and Swazoo mailing-lists. The exact meaning of "taking an idea" depends on the interpretation. Some people argue that only reading (L)GPL code makes your code (L)GPL. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Aug. 1, 2008