July 2008 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Last release & ScriptLoader

by Alexandre Bergel

> Yes you are right, each update should come with the latest version > of ScriptLoader. Usually this is how we do it. In update 10050 the > version loaded is ScriptLoader-al.468. The newer versions that are > in the Pharo repository were probably committed after we did the > update (?) The last version of ScriptLoader is ScriptLoader-AlexandreBergel. 471.mcz, and the last Pharo image is Pharo0.1-10050-2008-07-19. But at the time the image was released, the version ScriptLoader- AlexandreBergel.470 was available. > Talking about the *released image* that we provide for download, I > think this one should be identical to the one that you can produce > from going through all updates of the stream. So, I would not > manually load newer versions of ScriptLoader afterwards. This is to > make sure that everybody has the exact same code. Exact, Alexandre > > > On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:12 , Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> The last release does not have the last version of ScriptLoader >> loaded. >> I think it is good to have always the last version of >> "infrastructural" packages in the image, like ScriptLoader. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 29, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Last release & ScriptLoader

by Adrian Lienhard

Hi Alex, Yes you are right, each update should come with the latest version of ScriptLoader. Usually this is how we do it. In update 10050 the version loaded is ScriptLoader-al.468. The newer versions that are in the Pharo repository were probably committed after we did the update (?) Talking about the *released image* that we provide for download, I think this one should be identical to the one that you can produce from going through all updates of the stream. So, I would not manually load newer versions of ScriptLoader afterwards. This is to make sure that everybody has the exact same code. Cheers, Adrian On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:12 , Alexandre Bergel wrote: > The last release does not have the last version of ScriptLoader > loaded. > I think it is good to have always the last version of > "infrastructural" packages in the image, like ScriptLoader. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 29, 2008

RE: [Pharo-project] having apple-W to close the windows.

by Gary Chambers

I think the Alt-W (when the World paste-up has focus) is normally part of Squeak. Of course, when something else has keyboard focus that doesn't work. For SystemWindows Alt-Del will close the window (has been in UI Enhancements since start of last year). Gary. > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr]On Behalf Of Damien > Cassou > Sent: 28 July 2008 8:10 PM > To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an > open-sourceSmalltalk > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] having apple-W to close the windows. > > > If kind of already work with UI-Enhancements. Open a browser, click on > the desktop, and type ALT+w. > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:51 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > May be we should have a look at one of the key mapper packages > and provide a > > simple > > mapping. > > > > to close window for example. > > > > Stef > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > -- > Damien Cassou > Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good > luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) >

July 29, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] About file.... (argh)

by Lukas Renggli

I like the file-library of GST very much. It is a really cool and extensible library. Also the one of Ambrai is (or was) quite nice. Cheers, Lukas On 7/29/08, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Jul 29, 2008, at 10:10 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Keith Hodges <keith_hodges(a)yahoo.co.uk >> > wrote: >>>> I was thinking that we could check a bit rio interface to see if >>>> we could >>>> use it as a scaffold >>>> and slowly rewrite it so that at the end it is a not a wrapper >>>> anymore on >>>> that shit. >>> >>> Rio is not a wrapper and never has been, it is independant of >>> FileDirectory >>> always was and always will be >> >> Rio is a *must* have for Pharo. > > Ok can you check the NullPattern. > Because I have a voice iside that tells me that I do not want it to > creep in the image. > So we could fork rio and provide an implementation that is not based > on the null pattern > > Stef > >> >> >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good >> luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 29, 2008

[Pharo-project] Last release & ScriptLoader

by Alexandre Bergel

The last release does not have the last version of ScriptLoader loaded. I think it is good to have always the last version of "infrastructural" packages in the image, like ScriptLoader. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 29, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] About file.... (argh)

by Michael Rueger

Damien Cassou wrote: > Rio is a *must* have for Pharo. I politely disagree. There isn't anything in Rio that isn't already or could easily be added to URIs. I'm also not a big fan (to say the least) of adding "convenience" methods (like the zip stuff in Rio). IMHO convenience is the death of good design. Michael

July 29, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] About file.... (argh)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 29, 2008, at 10:10 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Keith Hodges <keith_hodges(a)yahoo.co.uk > > wrote: >>> I was thinking that we could check a bit rio interface to see if >>> we could >>> use it as a scaffold >>> and slowly rewrite it so that at the end it is a not a wrapper >>> anymore on >>> that shit. >> >> Rio is not a wrapper and never has been, it is independant of >> FileDirectory >> always was and always will be > > Rio is a *must* have for Pharo. Ok can you check the NullPattern. Because I have a voice iside that tells me that I do not want it to creep in the image. So we could fork rio and provide an implementation that is not based on the null pattern Stef > > > > -- > Damien Cassou > Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good > luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 29, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] About file.... (argh)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks for the correction! Ok even better. I added that to my todo list. Now I want to investigate the dependency to the NullPattern because - I want to discuss it inside the pharo community I think that this is not a good idea to have different idiom inside the system - I would like to see if we can get a "rio" solution or other but not based on the NullPattern I will reread the wiki page first http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5962 Stef > >> >> I was thinking that we could check a bit rio interface to see if we >> could use it as a scaffold >> and slowly rewrite it so that at the end it is a not a wrapper >> anymore on that shit. >> >> Stef > Rio is not a wrapper and never has been, it is independant of > FileDirectory always was and always will be > > Keith > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 29, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] About file.... (argh)

by Damien Cassou

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Keith Hodges <keith_hodges(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> I was thinking that we could check a bit rio interface to see if we could >> use it as a scaffold >> and slowly rewrite it so that at the end it is a not a wrapper anymore on >> that shit. > > Rio is not a wrapper and never has been, it is independant of FileDirectory > always was and always will be Rio is a *must* have for Pharo. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

July 29, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] About file.... (argh)

by Keith Hodges

> > I was thinking that we could check a bit rio interface to see if we > could use it as a scaffold > and slowly rewrite it so that at the end it is a not a wrapper anymore > on that shit. > > Stef Rio is not a wrapper and never has been, it is independant of FileDirectory always was and always will be Keith

July 28, 2008