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Re: [Pharo-project] How to work on taskForce

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

yes this was the idea. Not having stuff hanging around for years. Ok I will create PharoTaskForces then. Stef On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:36 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:29 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hello guys >> >> I started (as an experiment to understand how to improve code >> understanding) to try to understand and write >> tests for dataStream and I would to share the results with you. The >> point is that we could harvest what I did >> but I feel that we need a way to share experimental code. >> I propose to create a project PharoTaskForces. > > (or PharoExperimental) > >> What do you think? > > I think thats a good idea so that we can keep the inbox clean for > stuff that is supposed to be integrated. > > Adrian > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 16, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] How to work on taskForce

by Norbert Hartl

On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 10:29 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hello guys > > I started (as an experiment to understand how to improve code > understanding) to try to understand and write > tests for dataStream and I would to share the results with you. The > point is that we could harvest what I did > but I feel that we need a way to share experimental code. > I propose to create a project PharoTaskForces. > What do you think? You mean a project on squeaksource? Yes, why not. What about the names pharoExperimental ( ;) ) or pharoSandbox? Quite common names for it. Norbert

July 16, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] How to work on taskForce

by Alexandre Bergel

Why not to add a new method in ScriptLoader that will simply load the monticello package? cheers, Alexandre On 16 Jul 2008, at 10:29, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hello guys > > I started (as an experiment to understand how to improve code > understanding) to try to understand and write > tests for dataStream and I would to share the results with you. The > point is that we could harvest what I did > but I feel that we need a way to share experimental code. > I propose to create a project PharoTaskForces. > What do you think? > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 16, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] How to work on taskForce

by Adrian Lienhard

On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:29 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hello guys > > I started (as an experiment to understand how to improve code > understanding) to try to understand and write > tests for dataStream and I would to share the results with you. The > point is that we could harvest what I did > but I feel that we need a way to share experimental code. > I propose to create a project PharoTaskForces. (or PharoExperimental) > What do you think? I think thats a good idea so that we can keep the inbox clean for stuff that is supposed to be integrated. Adrian

July 16, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] BrowseTest change in inbox

by Alexandre Bergel

This test open few browser but close them afterward. I am not sure about the policy Pharo's test should follow, but I think this is a good test. Cheers, Alexandre On 16 Jul 2008, at 10:30, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > I do not remember doing that on purpose. > May be I just merged a package that removed it. > Was the test always working? > > Stef > > On Jul 15, 2008, at 12:13 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > >> Ok, I found the package that removed the class: >> >> ------------ >> Name: Tools-stephane.ducasse.83 >> Author: stephane.ducasse >> Time: 25 May 2008, 6:51:03 pm >> UUID: 0fd56f49-c138-4e05-850d-ed5c8f2ac9d6 >> Ancestors: Tools-stephane.ducasse.82 >> removed tests that open the old browsers and checked if the right >> item was selected. >> ------------ >> >> I assume Stef had a good reason to remove it. >> Alex, shall I remove your package from the inbox or do you want to >> check with Stef first? >> >> Cheers, >> Adrian >> >> On Jul 15, 2008, at 11:23 , Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>> I just checked. >>> Obviously someone removed BrowseTest. This class was present in a >>> 2008-05-24 image. >>> This aims at sending #browse to an arbitrary object and asserting >>> that a window opens. >>> >>> How comes that a test class disappear ? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On 14 Jul 2008, at 21:42, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Alex, >>>> >>>> The following package is in the inbox. It changes methods in the >>>> class BrowseTest, but this class does not exist in the image. I >>>> don't know whether BrowseTest was removed or it came into your >>>> image from another source. Can you please check? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Adrian >>>> >>>> >>>> Name: Tools-AlexandreBergel.83 >>>> Author: AlexandreBergel >>>> Time: 26 May 2008, 10:11:12 pm >>>> UUID: 49e5b0a5-ad37-41a1-9487-916b74ae07d9 >>>> Ancestors: Tools-stephane.ducasse.82 >>>> >>>> The class BrowseTest is not OB aware. Without this fix, >>>> BrowseTest raised an error when OB was the default browser. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 16, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: New features in OB-Enhancements

by Alexandre Bergel

> Alex did you update the loadOb in latest on the server version of > scriptloader? Yes, I did it this morning. Alexandre > > On Jul 16, 2008, at 8:40 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> Thanks for your great work! The browser looks gorgeous! >> >> Count on me to use it! >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 16 Jul 2008, at 08:30, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>> Thanks David for this. I will take care of it. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On 15 Jul 2008, at 14:53, David RÃ¶thlisberger wrote: >>> >>>> As Pharo also uses OB-Enhancements for its class browser, I want >>>> to forward this email about recent additions to the OB- >>>> Enhancements package. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> David >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> I recently added a couple of new features that people wanted to >>>>> see in OB-Enhancements: >>>>> - More icons for packages, classes and methods; for a >>>>> comprehensive list of icons >>>>> please have a look at http://smallwiki.unibe.ch/hermion/icons. >>>>> - Searches in mercury panel are now better integrated in the >>>>> smart groups. For >>>>> instance, you directly go to the result when there is only one >>>>> search result, also >>>>> for implementors/senders searches and for 'wild' searches (eg. >>>>> 'OBCol*'). >>>>> - In the first column, next to the switches 'packages' and >>>>> 'smart groups' you also >>>>> find a 'hierarchy' switch that allows you to see the hierarchy >>>>> of a selected class >>>>> and the packages in which this class has been defined or >>>>> extended. This behaves >>>>> similar as in the VW-browser. >>>>> - Commands to define a selected method as an extension method of >>>>> a given class, or to >>>>> define this method as an extension method for a given package in >>>>> the local class, are >>>>> available >>>>> - When adding a package to a smart group, you now also see the >>>>> class categories of >>>>> this package in the smart group view >>>>> - If a package is not stored in any Monticello repository yet, >>>>> there is a command >>>>> that allows you to initially import this local package in a >>>>> repository to be defined. >>>>> - On the top of the package column you now always see those five >>>>> packages that have >>>>> been modified recently in your image. This is very useful to >>>>> quickly browse to the >>>>> packages in which you are currently working. You then see all >>>>> existing packages below >>>>> these five in an alphabetical order of course. >>>>> - I also did some minor stuff, such as fixing defects, renaming >>>>> or reordering some >>>>> menu actions to be consistent throughout the browser, etc. >>>>> I'd be glad to find some people willing to test these >>>>> enhancements and to give me >>>>> feedback. I'm sure that there are still little issues here and >>>>> there, and maybe you >>>>> think that some stuff should be done in a different manner. I'm >>>>> very open to >>>>> incorporate any of your suggestions. >>>>> To test these changes, you need the following packages: >>>>> OmniBrowser-dr.413 >>>>> OB-Standard-dr.340 >>>>> OB-Morphic-dr.49 >>>>> OB-Enhancements-dr.183 >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> David >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> ob-dev mailing list >>>>> ob-dev(a)wiresong.ca >>>>> http://mail.wiresong.ca/mailman/listinfo/ob-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 16, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] about ensuring file closing

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi norbert >> I have a question: >> - would not be better to even wrap the on: into the first block of >> the ensure: message? > What do you mean? Can you give an example? In VW I was used to write something like that from memory [ f := 'foo.bar' asFilename. f open.... ] ensure: [f close] so the file creation was protected. > > >> - do we have to close a file even if its creation failed? > > Is there anything in the above examples that raises this question? > Usually it is the other way round. You can't close a file (that you > don't have) if the creation failed. > > I was wondering about the name of the methods. Is a idiom > > smthg create > aBlock value: smthg > smthg destroy > > not supposed to be called during: ? Yes but apparently in FileStream there are newfileNamed:do:.... I guess that this is a ruby idiom imported by avi Stef > > > Norbert > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 16, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] BrowseTest change in inbox

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Yes I have the impression. stef On Jul 16, 2008, at 12:41 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hum... I cannot load my package in an image 2008-06-30. > I saved Tools, which depends on: > - StandardSystemController > - DeferredActionStandardSystemController > > The class BrowseTest is included in this version. But a lot of junks > as well! > What should we do in that case?Shall the class BrowseTest be > extracted from this package? > > Alexandre > > > On 15 Jul 2008, at 14:49, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > >> ok, can you update your package with the class and create an issue >> in the tracker? >> Like this we can push it into the next update. >> >> Cheers, >> Adrian >> >> On Jul 15, 2008, at 14:16 , Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>> This test was not that bad actually. >>> Maybe it should be reintroduced. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On 15 Jul 2008, at 12:13, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, I found the package that removed the class: >>>> >>>> ------------ >>>> Name: Tools-stephane.ducasse.83 >>>> Author: stephane.ducasse >>>> Time: 25 May 2008, 6:51:03 pm >>>> UUID: 0fd56f49-c138-4e05-850d-ed5c8f2ac9d6 >>>> Ancestors: Tools-stephane.ducasse.82 >>>> removed tests that open the old browsers and checked if the right >>>> item was selected. >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> I assume Stef had a good reason to remove it. >>>> Alex, shall I remove your package from the inbox or do you want >>>> to check with Stef first? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Adrian >>>> >>>> On Jul 15, 2008, at 11:23 , Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>> >>>>> I just checked. >>>>> Obviously someone removed BrowseTest. This class was present in >>>>> a 2008-05-24 image. >>>>> This aims at sending #browse to an arbitrary object and >>>>> asserting that a window opens. >>>>> >>>>> How comes that a test class disappear ? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 14 Jul 2008, at 21:42, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Alex, >>>>>> >>>>>> The following package is in the inbox. It changes methods in >>>>>> the class BrowseTest, but this class does not exist in the >>>>>> image. I don't know whether BrowseTest was removed or it came >>>>>> into your image from another source. Can you please check? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Adrian >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Name: Tools-AlexandreBergel.83 >>>>>> Author: AlexandreBergel >>>>>> Time: 26 May 2008, 10:11:12 pm >>>>>> UUID: 49e5b0a5-ad37-41a1-9487-916b74ae07d9 >>>>>> Ancestors: Tools-stephane.ducasse.82 >>>>>> >>>>>> The class BrowseTest is not OB aware. Without this fix, >>>>>> BrowseTest raised an error when OB was the default browser. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 16, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] BrowseTest change in inbox

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I do not remember doing that on purpose. May be I just merged a package that removed it. Was the test always working? Stef On Jul 15, 2008, at 12:13 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Ok, I found the package that removed the class: > > ------------ > Name: Tools-stephane.ducasse.83 > Author: stephane.ducasse > Time: 25 May 2008, 6:51:03 pm > UUID: 0fd56f49-c138-4e05-850d-ed5c8f2ac9d6 > Ancestors: Tools-stephane.ducasse.82 > removed tests that open the old browsers and checked if the right > item was selected. > ------------ > > I assume Stef had a good reason to remove it. > Alex, shall I remove your package from the inbox or do you want to > check with Stef first? > > Cheers, > Adrian > > On Jul 15, 2008, at 11:23 , Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> I just checked. >> Obviously someone removed BrowseTest. This class was present in a >> 2008-05-24 image. >> This aims at sending #browse to an arbitrary object and asserting >> that a window opens. >> >> How comes that a test class disappear ? >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 14 Jul 2008, at 21:42, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> >>> Hi Alex, >>> >>> The following package is in the inbox. It changes methods in the >>> class BrowseTest, but this class does not exist in the image. I >>> don't know whether BrowseTest was removed or it came into your >>> image from another source. Can you please check? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Adrian >>> >>> >>> Name: Tools-AlexandreBergel.83 >>> Author: AlexandreBergel >>> Time: 26 May 2008, 10:11:12 pm >>> UUID: 49e5b0a5-ad37-41a1-9487-916b74ae07d9 >>> Ancestors: Tools-stephane.ducasse.82 >>> >>> The class BrowseTest is not OB aware. Without this fix, BrowseTest >>> raised an error when OB was the default browser. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 16, 2008

[Pharo-project] How to work on taskForce

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hello guys I started (as an experiment to understand how to improve code understanding) to try to understand and write tests for dataStream and I would to share the results with you. The point is that we could harvest what I did but I feel that we need a way to share experimental code. I propose to create a project PharoTaskForces. What do you think? Stef

July 16, 2008