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[Pharo-project] Google code RSS feeds

by Adrian Lienhard

There are now RSS feeds available to track the issues or wiki changes. See http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2008/07/new-feeds-for-project-hosti… Cheers, Adrian ___________________ http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/

July 21, 2008

[Pharo-project] Please review #74 and #114

by Adrian Lienhard

Issue 74: 7124 FastSmallIntegerPrintString http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=74 and related: Issue 114: Faster printString for LargeInteger http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=114 thanks, Adrian ___________________ http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/

July 21, 2008

[Pharo-project] Please review #35

by Adrian Lienhard

I gathered the Mantis fixes captured by "Issue 35: 7084CollectionEnh (M1660 M1602)" This is a relatively large change as it includes 4 mantis reports. The first one improves performance when writing on a RWBinaryOrTextStream. The second three issues are related to interval inclusion tests that were buggy. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=35 Please review and check that I have not done any mistakes (there are a different revisions of changes sets on Mantis, which is confusing). Thanks Adrian ___________________ http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/

July 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Please verify #118

by Adrian Lienhard

Hi Damien I had a look and have a question. Please see the comment in http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=118 Adrian On Jul 18, 2008, at 10:03 , Damien Cassou wrote: > Can someone please verify: > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=118 > > -- > Damien Cassou > Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good > luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pango support

by Serge Stinckwich

2008/7/19 Michael Rueger <m.rueger(a)acm.org>: > Serge Stinckwich wrote: >> >> There is a Pango support in recent OLPC Squeak VM : >> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2008-June/002433.html >> Pango is a rendering text with a strong emphasis on internationalization : >> http://www.pango.org/ScriptGallery >> >> Maybe something to add in future Pharo releases ... > > Maybe, but it is really monkey patched into Morphic. Imagine the current > ParagraphEditor and someone making it ten times worse. Not Yoshiki's fault, > he just had to make it work with what's there. An amazing feat actually that > he managed to get it to work. I guess you are right for the image support of Pango, but the VM plugin can be used without Morphic. -- Serge Stinckwich Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/

July 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Improving the GUI

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Dear all, I remember well my first impression with Squeak a year or so ago and all troubles I had then and have them actually still. Yes, it is a look&feel problem. And more feel than look. Look are fonts etc. while feel are menus, basic window handling, mouse buttons, controls behaving as closer to target OS as user is accustomized of, user interface consistency and behavior as expected, etc. I therefore propose to start with "feel" part of user experience first and my priority would be: - swapMouseButtons preset depending on target OS (this one is probably the most annoying thing for newcomers!) - window controls (minimize/maximize, close) and their order more in line with mainstream rules - better menus as Adrian proposed - more overall consistency of menus (for instance: inspect/explore always on the same place in menu: or on the top or on the bottom) - merging inspector into explorer and having only Inspect - ctrl-mouse left behavior = select! (also very annoying one!) - do we really need those window controls, coming up with ctrl-left mouse? (rotate etc? halos?) Those feel troubles I have are on Linux and mostly the same on Windows but are probably different on Mac. Best regards Janko Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to get your opinion about how we could improve the GUI. I > believe that even a few small changes will make a significant > difference, especially for new people that come to Pharo. Just the > cleaned up world menu is such a relief... > > Here a three suggestions: > > Better fonts > ---------------- > I think the current code font is not a good one and it is too small (for > today's screen resolutions). I like for example the font used in > TextMate, which is Monaco 12, a monotype font. The page > http://www.lowing.org/fonts/ gives some samples for good code fonts. > I've tried out the other fonts in the Pharo image like the > BitstreamVeraSansMono but they are all very blurry. Just not good > enough. I'm not a font expert, so I don't know what the options for a > better font are. > > Better menus > ------------------------------- > Current problems: > - bad organization menus only work when you have learned where > something is located > - duplicated entries e.g., Appearance is both in the top level world > menu and in the submenu Help > - useless entries e.g., set font, set style etc. in the context > menu are useless since code is never styled > - defective entries: e.g., "Make project link" in the context menu > does not work > > Larger windows > ------------------------------- > The default size of windows is usually too small. Often, after opening a > window I have to resize it. For example the hierarchy browser shows only > the 5 first classes. > > > Any other ideas what could be improved in the short term? I'm looking > for stuff that we can do now without having to rewrite the whole system... > > Cheers, > Adrian > > ___________________ > http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565

July 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] about ensuring file closing

by Bill Schwab

Damien, My top Pharo-related priority right now remains deployment of the BibTeX/Seaside system. It is both a stress-test for the VM and Seaside, and I have a manuscript deadline creeping ever closer =:0 Once that is up, I will give this some thought. I also need to get a SIF or other link between Dolphin and Pharo. Suggestions are welcome, and pointers to working code would be even better :) Some reading on the most recent (D 3.x!!!) version I found includes instructions for "porting" SIF, so worst case, I could take that route for getting it working in D5. Too bad the RB is apparently still unable to take formatting cues from existing code; I use non-formatting refactorings with abandon, and will sometimes freely use the RB on new code; anything that has been around for a while contains comments that have proven VERY valuable to me over time. With any luck, the transformations I plan to make will be easy enough "the hard way". More to come. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> damien.cassou(a)gmail.com 07/20/08 2:47 PM >>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Bill Schwab <BSchwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: > Stef, > > That sounds fine, but I would want Damien to be involved. I'm here :-) > I would also > like to discuss the pros and cons of a facade such as > > ReadStream class>>on:aCollection > ^aCollection readStream. > > which I _think_ can be readily adapted to instantiate Nile streams. > There would be a similar trick for write streams. I think it is necessary to have such a facade, at least temporarily. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] about ensuring file closing

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

What I will do (but slowly) is to write tests for DataStream and its subclasses. I would like to see the URI solution of mike for files. Stef > Stef, > > That sounds fine, but I would want Damien to be involved. I would > also > like to discuss the pros and cons of a facade such as > > ReadStream class>>on:aCollection > ^aCollection readStream. > > which I _think_ can be readily adapted to instantiate Nile streams. > There would be a similar trick for write streams. > > My thought was to patch things until streams came up on the milestones > list. If you are finding streams are worse off than you thought and > want to move it up, that's fine too. I'm happy to help. > > Bill

July 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Improving the GUI

by Damien Cassou

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:41 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Someone told me (damien probably) that nicefont was touching a lot of place > in the system. Ideally I would like to avoid to depend on a pluggin for > things as essential as font rendering (at least in a basic image). That's why I chose NiceFonts (http://www.jvuletich.org/NiceFonts.html) it is easy to install and use. However, it is a set of patches which touch a lot of places. > Did somebody check a bit the code of niceFont? I think it is needed before inclusion. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

July 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] about ensuring file closing

by Damien Cassou

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Bill Schwab <BSchwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: > Stef, > > That sounds fine, but I would want Damien to be involved. I'm here :-) > I would also > like to discuss the pros and cons of a facade such as > > ReadStream class>>on:aCollection > ^aCollection readStream. > > which I _think_ can be readily adapted to instantiate Nile streams. > There would be a similar trick for write streams. I think it is necessary to have such a facade, at least temporarily. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

July 20, 2008