June 2008 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: [Sapphire-devl] sapphire to pharo :)

by Adrian Lienhard

Stef, I tried again to load Pharo starting with Squeak 3.9.1 using the update stream and now it works! Adrian On Jun 1, 2008, at 18:26 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Done. >>> Can you check? >> >> Looks good! I got beyond the problematic script. But I could not >> load to the latest package because the SqueakSource server went >> down in the meantime :(. Will check again later. > > Yes I noticed that too :) > I was planning to do a new release. > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 2, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Mvc removing step1

by Alain Plantec

On Monday 2 June 2008 16:21:57 StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi alain > > excellent. > Did you try to reload your slice? I've just tried it from a fresh Pharo0.1-10028-2008-05-24.image (after a load code updates). All seems ok. After loading, 3 isMorphic sending remain. they will be treated by next steps. alain > > Stef > > On Jun 2, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Alain Plantec wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > I've upload SLICE-MvcRemoving-Step1 package to PharoInbox: > > - I update all methods with a #isMorphic send: > > "Smalltalk isMorphic ifTrue: [XXX] ifFalse: [YYY]" is replaced by > > "XXX". > > - I remove some methods which are no more useful as > > Debugger>>buildMVCDebuggerViewLabel:minSize: > > > > alain > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > >

June 2, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: I tried to load

by Adrian Lienhard

If you load the code programmatically, then there exists another, simple solution to ignore the progress bar which does not require to change the MC package loader. I added this to the ScriptLoader (that is the class with the update scripts that we used in 3.9 and now in Pharo). Have a look at ScriptLoader>>loadTogether:merge:silently:. I have not tested it with UIEnhancements yet but it solved the problem of loading a package with truetype font changes IIRC. Cheers, Adrian On Jun 2, 2008, at 16:14 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> Had a go with Pharo today. UI Enhancements loads OK provided >> MCPackageLoader>>basicLoad is modified to prevent the display of >> progress >> while processing the additions. >> >> I'm thinking of some way of flaging a package for this, though MC >> would need >> quite a few changes to handle it. Perhaps pick up an extra field in >> the >> package dictionary of the mcz and, somehow, pass along to the >> PackageLoader...

June 2, 2008

RE: [Pharo-project] EToys

by Gary Chambers

OK, would be tricky anyway :-) I assume for the SLICES thing to work we are essentially forking base packages like Morphic? Gary. > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr]On Behalf Of > Stephane Ducasse > Sent: 02 June 2008 3:25 PM > To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an > open-sourceSmalltalk > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] EToys > > > No reload of Etoy (as its current state) is important else it will > reintroduce > cruft. > I know that juan vuletcich removed etoy totally from squeak 3.7 > > http://www.jvuletich.org/Squeak/EToysFreeMorphic/EtoysFreeMorphic.html > > >> Just joined the mailing list. > >> > >> Was wonderering if you/we were looking at removing EToys. I'd be > >> happy to > >> help with that (it cuts deep into Morphic so should lead to some > >> simplification). A "patch up" package could be made, perhaps, to > >> reintegrate > >> EToys after loading. > > > > Welcome on board Gary. > > Yes we would like to remove EToys in Pharo. > > > > -- > > Serge Stinckwich > > http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 2, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] EToys

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

No reload of Etoy (as its current state) is important else it will reintroduce cruft. I know that juan vuletcich removed etoy totally from squeak 3.7 http://www.jvuletich.org/Squeak/EToysFreeMorphic/EtoysFreeMorphic.html >> Just joined the mailing list. >> >> Was wonderering if you/we were looking at removing EToys. I'd be >> happy to >> help with that (it cuts deep into Morphic so should lead to some >> simplification). A "patch up" package could be made, perhaps, to >> reintegrate >> EToys after loading. > > Welcome on board Gary. > Yes we would like to remove EToys in Pharo. > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 2, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Mvc removing step1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi alain excellent. Did you try to reload your slice? Stef On Jun 2, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Alain Plantec wrote: > Hi all > > I've upload SLICE-MvcRemoving-Step1 package to PharoInbox: > - I update all methods with a #isMorphic send: > "Smalltalk isMorphic ifTrue: [XXX] ifFalse: [YYY]" is replaced by > "XXX". > - I remove some methods which are no more useful as > Debugger>>buildMVCDebuggerViewLabel:minSize: > > alain > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 2, 2008

[Pharo-project] Fwd: I tried to load

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Begin forwarded message: > From: "Gary Chambers" <gary(a)pinesoft.co.uk> > Date: June 2, 2008 2:48:17 PM CEDT > To: "stephane ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> > Subject: RE: I tried to load > > Had a go with Pharo today. UI Enhancements loads OK provided > MCPackageLoader>>basicLoad is modified to prevent the display of > progress > while processing the additions. > > I'm thinking of some way of flaging a package for this, though MC > would need > quite a few changes to handle it. Perhaps pick up an extra field in > the > package dictionary of the mcz and, somehow, pass along to the > PackageLoader... > > Regards, Gary. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: stephane ducasse [mailto:stephane.ducasse@free.fr] >> Sent: 22 May 2008 6:13 PM >> To: Gary Chambers >> Subject: Re: I tried to load >> >> >> Thanks I will check. >> I can load 60 without any problems. >> >> Stef >> >>> Sounds like an MC load order problem again. >>> The change was for double-dispatching of use of fill-styles back to >>> the >>> fill-style itself to support more complex/composite fill styles. >>> >>> Best to try to load with the MCPackageLoader>>basicLoad modification >>> and as >>> few windows etc. as possible. >>> >>> Let me know if your problems persist and I'll give it a go too. >>> >>> Regards, Gary. >> >> > > > > ****************************************************************************************************************************************** > This email is from Pinesoft Limited. Its contents are confidential > to the intended recipient(s) at the email address(es) to which it > has been addressed. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone > other than the addressee(s), nor may it be copied in anyway. If > received in error, please contact the sender, then delete it from > your system. Although this email and attachments are believed to be > free of virus, or any other defect which might affect any computer > or IT system into which they are received and opened, it is the > responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they are virus free > and no responsibility is accepted by Pinesoft for any loss or damage > arising in any way from receipt or use thereof. > ******************************************************************************************************************************************* > > > Pinesoft Limited are registered in England, Registered number: > 2914825. Registered office: 266-268 High Street, Waltham Cross, > Herts, EN8 7EA >

June 2, 2008

RE: [Pharo-project] EToys

by Gary Chambers

Thanks. I've managed a simple proof of concept with some simple changes that should help in rooting out its tendrils :-) (main EToys package unloaded without image "crash") Gary. > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr]On Behalf Of Serge > Stinckwich > Sent: 02 June 2008 2:22 PM > To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an > open-sourceSmalltalk > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] EToys > > > 2008/6/2 Gary Chambers <gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com>: > > Just joined the mailing list. > > > > Was wonderering if you/we were looking at removing EToys. I'd > be happy to > > help with that (it cuts deep into Morphic so should lead to some > > simplification). A "patch up" package could be made, perhaps, > to reintegrate > > EToys after loading. > > Welcome on board Gary. > Yes we would like to remove EToys in Pharo. > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 2, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] EToys

by Serge Stinckwich

2008/6/2 Gary Chambers <gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com>: > Just joined the mailing list. > > Was wonderering if you/we were looking at removing EToys. I'd be happy to > help with that (it cuts deep into Morphic so should lead to some > simplification). A "patch up" package could be made, perhaps, to reintegrate > EToys after loading. Welcome on board Gary. Yes we would like to remove EToys in Pharo. -- Serge Stinckwich http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/

June 2, 2008

[Pharo-project] EToys

by Gary Chambers

Just joined the mailing list. Was wonderering if you/we were looking at removing EToys. I'd be happy to help with that (it cuts deep into Morphic so should lead to some simplification). A "patch up" package could be made, perhaps, to reintegrate EToys after loading. Regards, Gary.

June 2, 2008