June 2008 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] 2 new updates

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys I harvested some fixes proposed: - file test cleaning - number parsing tests - nebraska cleaning I cleaned up the inbox. Tomorrow I will try to take a look at MVC step 1 :) Stef

June 4, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] HowToContribute wiki page rewrite

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi victor If you can, do it but pay attention that we will certainly use pier or cmsbox at the end. (I know that the current wiki is slow). If you do it can you mark each page of the old one with a link to the new one. Stef On Jun 4, 2008, at 7:58 PM, Victor Rodriguez wrote: > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:39 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Thanks so may be we should move the wiki contents to this one >> but more importantly the tasks. > > I'll volunteer to move the wiki pages, as long as people don't mind if > it takes the rest of the week to do it (I can only manage a few hours > per week of "free time" :-P ). > > Victor. > > ps. Please add me to the project as victorr(a)gmail.com. > >> stef >> >> On Jun 4, 2008, at 7:36 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com >>> > >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:01 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >>>> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think Lukas mention sometimes ago to use Google code, much >>>>>> cleaner >>>>>> interface than this one, the wiki seems also much simpler >>>>>> and there is a simple bug tracker integrated. >>>>> >>>>> Yes may be we should use the Googlecode tracker. >>>>> Cna someone give a try. >>>> >>> >>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/. It seems very cool and simple. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Damien Cassou >>> Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good >>> luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 4, 2008

[Pharo-project] About readStream on: vs readStream

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi damien I was wondering why you think that ReadStream on: anObject is worse than anObject readStream? Because you do not hardcode ReadStream? Stef

June 4, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] HowToContribute wiki page rewrite

by Serge Stinckwich

How could i edit the main page ? 2008/6/4 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>: > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:01 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> I think Lukas mention sometimes ago to use Google code, much cleaner >>>> interface than this one, the wiki seems also much simpler >>>> and there is a simple bug tracker integrated. >>> >>> Yes may be we should use the Googlecode tracker. >>> Cna someone give a try. >> > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/. It seems very cool and simple. > > > > > -- > Damien Cassou > Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good > luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Serge Stinckwich http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/

June 4, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] HowToContribute wiki page rewrite

by Victor Rodriguez

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:39 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Thanks so may be we should move the wiki contents to this one > but more importantly the tasks. I'll volunteer to move the wiki pages, as long as people don't mind if it takes the rest of the week to do it (I can only manage a few hours per week of "free time" :-P ). Victor. ps. Please add me to the project as victorr(a)gmail.com. > stef > > On Jun 4, 2008, at 7:36 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:01 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >>> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think Lukas mention sometimes ago to use Google code, much cleaner >>>>> interface than this one, the wiki seems also much simpler >>>>> and there is a simple bug tracker integrated. >>>> >>>> Yes may be we should use the Googlecode tracker. >>>> Cna someone give a try. >>> >> >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/. It seems very cool and simple. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good >> luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 4, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] HowToContribute wiki page rewrite

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks so may be we should move the wiki contents to this one but more importantly the tasks. stef On Jun 4, 2008, at 7:36 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Damien Cassou > <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:01 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> I think Lukas mention sometimes ago to use Google code, much >>>> cleaner >>>> interface than this one, the wiki seems also much simpler >>>> and there is a simple bug tracker integrated. >>> >>> Yes may be we should use the Googlecode tracker. >>> Cna someone give a try. >> > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/. It seems very cool and simple. > > > > > -- > Damien Cassou > Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good > luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 4, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] HowToContribute wiki page rewrite

by Damien Cassou

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:01 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> I think Lukas mention sometimes ago to use Google code, much cleaner >>> interface than this one, the wiki seems also much simpler >>> and there is a simple bug tracker integrated. >> >> Yes may be we should use the Googlecode tracker. >> Cna someone give a try. > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/. It seems very cool and simple. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 4, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] HowToContribute wiki page rewrite

by Damien Cassou

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:01 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> I think Lukas mention sometimes ago to use Google code, much cleaner >> interface than this one, the wiki seems also much simpler >> and there is a simple bug tracker integrated. > > Yes may be we should use the Googlecode tracker. > Cna someone give a try. I'm having a look. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 4, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] HowToContribute wiki page rewrite

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> I think Lukas mention sometimes ago to use Google code, much cleaner > interface than this one, the wiki seems also much simpler > and there is a simple bug tracker integrated. Yes may be we should use the Googlecode tracker. Cna someone give a try. Stef > > Look for example the SyX project : > http://code.google.com/p/syx/ > and his wiki : http://code.google.com/p/syx/w/list > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 4, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] About on:

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jun 4, 2008, at 5:20 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:45 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> here is what I propose for on: >> I will move your package out of the inbox so that the discussion >> can go on >> and >> I try to integrate all the other changes. >> Then with bill and others you propose how to proceed. >> Is it ok ? > > What do you mean by 'I will move your package out of the inbox'? Do > you mean you simply delete the packages or you moved them to Pharo? I mean move them to the treatedBox without putting in the image > Replacing 'ReadStream on: smth' by 'smth readStream' is not mandatory. > However, it makes the code simpler to read, avoids a direct class > reference and allows different implementation of #readStream depending > on the kind of collection it is sent to. I do not think anyone is > against that as soon as I apply the automatic refactoring carefully. I > did that and didn't see any place where the RB did a bad job. It even > detected that SequenceableCollection>>readStream should not be changed > to avoid infinite recursion. > > Do you think there is a problem that I might take care of? Now as a group how do we want to handle this case? We give a try and trust damien? Stef > > > > -- > Damien Cassou > Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good > luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 4, 2008