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Re: [Pharo-project] milestone 1 (front morph proposition)

by Alain Plantec

On Saturday 28 June 2008 07:40:44 StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > what is browse? It opens a browser. I found it handy for first browsers. > save -> Save ok > > why do we need this button (save)? save is present in the pharo (old squeak) flap. but it is just a proposition. > May be the button should be smaller. I can make several tries. The idea is to avoid the big blank screen and to make first screen homey (accueillant in french, I'm not sure in english). It must not be to intrusive too, this is why it is hidden when you have more than 3 windows. I can remove some buttons, add others, add a welcome text... alain > > Stef > > > On Wednesday 25 June 2008 09:11:20 StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> for milestone 1 > >> - it would be good to have a Pharo in the flap (if any flap) and any > >> other better looking lesssqueakish look :L) > > here is a proposition of a front morph that shows pharo logo plus > > 6 big buttons (About, Version, What's new, Browse, Save and Update). > > It is only visible when World has less than 3 windows. > > So, if you want to see it after having loaded the package, you maybe > > have to close some windows. > > It is on PharoInbox (PharoFront package). > > any opinion ? > > alain > > <pharoFront.jpg>_______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >

June 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] milestone 1 (front morph proposition)

by Noury Bouraqadi

Hi Alain, To avoid having this morph hidden by others, what do you think about putting it in a flap? Noury On 28 juin 08, at 02:52, Alain Plantec wrote: > On Wednesday 25 June 2008 09:11:20 StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> for milestone 1 >> - it would be good to have a Pharo in the flap (if any flap) and any >> other better looking lesssqueakish look :L) > here is a proposition of a front morph that shows pharo logo plus > 6 big buttons (About, Version, What's new, Browse, Save and Update). > It is only visible when World has less than 3 windows. > So, if you want to see it after having loaded the package, you maybe > have to close some windows. > It is on PharoInbox (PharoFront package). > any opinion ? > alain > <pharoFront.jpg>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project Noury Bouraqadi ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Noury Bouraqadi - Enseignant/Chercheur Responsable de l'enseignement de l'informatique ARMINES - Ecole des Mines de Douai - Dept. I.A. http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/noury European Smalltalk Users Group Board http://www.esug.org ------------------------------------------------------------------

June 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] milestone 1 (front morph proposition)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

what is browse? save -> Save why do we need this button (save)? May be the button should be smaller. Stef > On Wednesday 25 June 2008 09:11:20 StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> for milestone 1 >> - it would be good to have a Pharo in the flap (if any flap) and any >> other better looking lesssqueakish look :L) > here is a proposition of a front morph that shows pharo logo plus > 6 big buttons (About, Version, What's new, Browse, Save and Update). > It is only visible when World has less than 3 windows. > So, if you want to see it after having loaded the package, you maybe > have to close some windows. > It is on PharoInbox (PharoFront package). > any opinion ? > alain > <pharoFront.jpg>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] milestone 1 (front morph proposition)

by Alain Plantec

On Wednesday 25 June 2008 09:11:20 StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > for milestone 1 > - it would be good to have a Pharo in the flap (if any flap) and any > other better looking lesssqueakish look :L) here is a proposition of a front morph that shows pharo logo plus 6 big buttons (About, Version, What's new, Browse, Save and Update). It is only visible when World has less than 3 windows. So, if you want to see it after having loaded the package, you maybe have to close some windows. It is on PharoInbox (PharoFront package). any opinion ? alain

June 28, 2008

[Pharo-project] Pinesoft enhancements

by Bill Schwab

Gary, It appears to have loaded. I did the MCPackageLoader hack described on the wiki. It appeared to have frozen one time, and succeeded on a second attempt. As always, Thanks! Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029

June 28, 2008

[Pharo-project] Developer images; programming aids

by Bill Schwab

Damien, You asked (some time ago) for examples, and I just enountered a concrete situation of auto-completion making it (AFAICT) impossible to edit text the way I wanted. Having downloaded a fresh developer image, I am trying to install the Pinesoft enhancements, and tried to comment out some progress blocks - autocompletion insisted on "completing" the quotes for me, and I finally gave up. In fairness, the fonts could be better, so I might be missing a visual clue. For me, I type fast enough that I basically want the machine to do what I ask, and not try to help. You asked :) Please note that the answer to your question, "are the developer images useful?" appears to be yes. Our tastes on settings differ, but as I learn how to make my desired changes, I am finding the RB, Seaside, etc. very useful. Thanks, Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029

June 27, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [keith_hodges@yahoo.co.uk: [squeak-dev] Monticello version numbers]

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>> I don't think this version number scheme has been actually >> tested, despite what Keith said; it gave me a walkback when the >> version number was accidentally detected as 'renglli.271'. > > I never used these initials and I usually don't spell my own name > wrong ;-) :) But this is good to know that we MC15 we can break most of my package. I hate those initials and prefer full names for traceabiility point of view. stef

June 27, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [keith_hodges@yahoo.co.uk: [squeak-dev] Monticello version numbers]

by Lukas Renggli

> I don't think this version number scheme has been actually > tested, despite what Keith said; it gave me a walkback when the > version number was accidentally detected as 'renglli.271'. I never used these initials and I usually don't spell my own name wrong ;-) Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

June 27, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] EToys removal

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

just signed by you and send it to the address this is just to be consistent stef On Jun 27, 2008, at 7:30 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > No problem then. How do you need it signed? > > As always, anything released to the community from Pinesoft is MIT > license. > > Regards, Gary. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr]On Behalf Of >> Stephane Ducasse >> Sent: 27 June 2008 6:00 PM >> To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an >> open-sourceSmalltalk >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] EToys removal >> >> >> Hi gary >> >>> Thanks. As indicated in my previous emails the removal currently >>> consists of >>> an MC package that provides "blank" methods for those to be removed >>> and >>> modified versions for disintegration (!)... >> >> I like that sound :) Zap! >> >> We could then proceed with the disintegration and the rest. >> >>> Will have to check against existing Pharo removals for the latter. >>> >>> At present the methods are marked 'gvc' as the author... guess that >>> needs to >>> change given the policy for Pharo. >> >> Do not worry for the gvc jsut signe the license agreement so that we >> stay clean. >> >> Stef >> >> >>> >>> >>> Regards, Gary. >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr]On Behalf Of >>>> Alain >>>> Plantec >>>> Sent: 27 June 2008 4:50 PM >>>> To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] EToys removal >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday 27 June 2008 16:46:52 Gary Chambers wrote: >>>>> Just to say that my investigation is almost complete. Having >>>> completed most >>>>> of our work on the various Pinesoft Sprints I should have a bit >>>> more time >>>>> for it... >>>>> >>>>> Obviously there is some overlap with MVC/Nebraska/ScriptLoader >>>> removal (and >>>>> a bit of UI Enhancements modifications) though. >>>>> >>>>> Just a concern, forgiving a quote from Alain's email, "Stephane >>>>> seems to >>>>> prefer that I work on Etoy removing". >>>>> >>>>> I'm wondering the best way forward with this now. >>>> maybe you can just send here what you've done. >>>> I will make a try and help in order to make a slice package if >>>> needed. >>>> alain >>>>> >>>>> Regards, Gary. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 27, 2008

[Pharo-project] [keith_hodges@yahoo.co.uk: [squeak-dev] Monticello version numbers]

by Matthew Fulmer

This came to my attention last night as I made a modification to MC1.5 in order to work with Pharo packages. ----- Forwarded message from Keith Hodges <keith_hodges(a)yahoo.co.uk> ----- To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> From: Keith Hodges <keith_hodges(a)yahoo.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:18:56 +0100 Subject: [squeak-dev] Monticello version numbers Many do not know that Monticello 1.5 supports more complicated/natural version numbering schemes. Versions can be... 100 1.0.20 b523057e.606b.464b (abbreviated UUID with: $- replaced by $.) so.... this means... PLEASE DONT USE $. in your author initials when saving MC packages!!!!!! this has been a public service announcement Keith ----- End forwarded message ----- I don't know how or if it conflicts with Pharo dev policy. I don't see any requirement to use author names like lukas.renglli, but it happened. I don't think this version number scheme has been actually tested, despite what Keith said; it gave me a walkback when the version number was accidentally detected as 'renglli.271'. Does this interfere with some pharo policy? If so, any suggestions on a remedy? How do you envision MC package naming working once Author class is created? Keith's motivation behind the change: Seaside2.8 used version names with periods, but inside the package name. He made it more first-class UUID versions were a request by Chris Mueller -- Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/

June 27, 2008