June 2008 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by Norbert Hartl

On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 11:50 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > here are some proposals > I like the blue one. But there have something. > Please comment > I like the blue one, too. I don't know if it is important but lighthouses don't have just a light bubble in their center. There is a rotating lamp (or many). Without that it is not a lighthouse (the lamps and velocity are a code). Most images, icons and pictograms honor the moving part somehow. Maybe there are ideas to visualize that. Norbert

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

My remark on this one was that it may be better to get two larger streams of light. Stef On Jun 13, 2008, at 1:32 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Samuel MORELLO <samuel.morello(a)ouvanous.com> >> Date: June 13, 2008 1:27:25 PM CEDT >> To: StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos >> > <pharo-0.4.4.pdf> >> >> >> Le 13 juin 08 Ã 13:12, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : >> >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: Oscar Nierstrasz <oscar(a)iam.unibe.ch> >>>> Date: June 13, 2008 12:29:32 PM CEDT >>>> To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open- >>>> source Smalltalk <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos >>>> Reply-To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to >>>> an open-source Smalltalk <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cool graphics! >>>> >>>> But ... the first one looks too much like we are struggling in >>>> the fog, and the last one looks like we are about to come under >>>> the shadow of an eclipse (!). >>>> >>>> Is it possible to have the fog at the bottom, so the lighthouse >>>> is emerging from the fog? >>>> >>>> - on >>>> >>>> On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi guys >>>>> >>>>> here are some proposals >>>>> I like the blue one. But there have something. >>>>> Please comment >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <Picture 2.pdf><Picture 3.pdf><Picture >>>>> 1.pdf>_______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 13, 2008

Fwd: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Begin forwarded message: > From: Samuel MORELLO <samuel.morello(a)ouvanous.com> > Date: June 13, 2008 1:27:25 PM CEDT > To: StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos > > > Le 13 juin 08 Ã 13:12, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Oscar Nierstrasz <oscar(a)iam.unibe.ch> >>> Date: June 13, 2008 12:29:32 PM CEDT >>> To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open- >>> source Smalltalk <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos >>> Reply-To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an >>> open-source Smalltalk <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>> >>> >>> Cool graphics! >>> >>> But ... the first one looks too much like we are struggling in the >>> fog, and the last one looks like we are about to come under the >>> shadow of an eclipse (!). >>> >>> Is it possible to have the fog at the bottom, so the lighthouse is >>> emerging from the fog? >>> >>> - on >>> >>> On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> Hi guys >>>> >>>> here are some proposals >>>> I like the blue one. But there have something. >>>> Please comment >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <Picture 2.pdf><Picture 3.pdf><Picture >>>> 1.pdf>_______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by Serge Stinckwich

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: > i like the blue one as well.. Yes i also like this one. -- Serge Stinckwich Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by Alexandre Bergel

i like the blue one as well.. Alexandre On 13 Jun 2008, at 12:29, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > > Cool graphics! > > But ... the first one looks too much like we are struggling in the > fog, and the last one looks like we are about to come under the > shadow of an eclipse (!). > > Is it possible to have the fog at the bottom, so the lighthouse is > emerging from the fog? > > - on > > On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> here are some proposals >> I like the blue one. But there have something. >> Please comment >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> >> <Picture 2.pdf><Picture 3.pdf><Picture >> 1.pdf>_______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

:) I thought about that too. I passed the remark to samuel. On Jun 13, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > > Cool graphics! > > But ... the first one looks too much like we are struggling in the > fog, and the last one looks like we are about to come under the > shadow of an eclipse (!). > > Is it possible to have the fog at the bottom, so the lighthouse is > emerging from the fog? > > - on > > On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> here are some proposals >> I like the blue one. But there have something. >> Please comment >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> >> <Picture 2.pdf><Picture 3.pdf><Picture >> 1.pdf>_______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] ScriptLoader

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> Can somebody explain me what benefit we gain by using > ScriptLoader for updates? What can it do more/better than > just plain changesets? Plain cs are used to load scriptloader version. The idea is that we can gather some logic in a class and metadata for some of the actions performed. Normally scriptloader should not stay in a final image. Then scriptloader is versionned in squeaksource, we want to avoid to have cs around. > Please have a look at > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2008-June/129234.html > > How we like to deal with? In the past we prefered not to remove updates to have the complete history without having to reload each individual release script. Now I should clean a bit this class. Stef > > > Norbert > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Broken tests

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jun 13, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 11:17 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> And please take into account my posting "Removing ScriptLoader >>> legacy" on squeak-dev. >> >> >> I could not find it. >> Can you point it to me? >> >> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2008-June/129234.html > > In the meantie I uploaded a fix for ReleaseTest>>testUndeclared. It > is called SLICE-ReleaseTestFixUndeclared. > Seldomly a lot of the issues were missing class variables. Even in > newer > code from you. In ScriptLoader you have inboxRepository as instance > var > but in method inboxRepository you use InboxRepository. As the same is > used from the class side I assumed you wanted to use a class var. Yes this is a class variable. I will check what you did. > > > Norbert >>> Especially things in ScriptLoader are subject to >>> Undeclared which lets the ReleaseTest fail. I had a talk on irc >>> and it >>> seems that for 3.10 that were removed (from Undeclared) manually (I >>> have >>> no other idea). I'll have look if ScriptLoader is the only suspect. >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by Oscar Nierstrasz

Cool graphics! But ... the first one looks too much like we are struggling in the fog, and the last one looks like we are about to come under the shadow of an eclipse (!). Is it possible to have the fog at the bottom, so the lighthouse is emerging from the fog? - on On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > here are some proposals > I like the blue one. But there have something. > Please comment > > Stef > > > > > <Picture 2.pdf><Picture 3.pdf><Picture > 1.pdf>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 13, 2008

[Pharo-project] ScriptLoader

by Norbert Hartl

Can somebody explain me what benefit we gain by using ScriptLoader for updates? What can it do more/better than just plain changesets? Please have a look at http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2008-June/129234.html How we like to deal with? Norbert

June 13, 2008