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Re: [Pharo-project] call for fix: fixing browser names and stupid dead navigation that works

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jun 13, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 2:40 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Hi guys >> >> I send to this list the email I sent to the great omnibrowser >> developer >> list...... >> Really cool features but seems to forget the basic. if it takes me >> more than >> 5 min to find something >> may be the interface is BAD. > > Do you use pharo-dev? Not yet. Why there is a better version of the browser? Stef

June 13, 2008

[Pharo-project] Reintegration of StringSocket

by Damien Cassou

Hi, StringSocket is a class part of Nebraska. You removed that class. However, Universe uses this class to publish packages. Is it possible to reintegrate this class, at least partially to support Universe? Bye -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] call for fix: fixing browser names and stupid dead navigation that works

by Damien Cassou

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 2:40 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi guys > > I send to this list the email I sent to the great omnibrowser developer > list...... > Really cool features but seems to forget the basic. if it takes me more than > 5 min to find something > may be the interface is BAD. Do you use pharo-dev? -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug for harvesting

by Damien Cassou

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > Fix looks ok. > > Not sure why setting the superclass to nil is actually needed, but else the > test is not green (note, the "requires algorithm" was introduced by David > Vainsencher and was originally implemented by Nathanael; does somebody use > it? maybe in the Squeak-dev image?). Dynamic Protocols use it. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Yes :) and this is cool. Stef > > > I like the blue one! > >> My remark on this one was that it may be better to get two larger >> streams of light. >> > > > One thing to note is that a lighhouse does emit multiple beams at > once that rotate "as a whole". > (not a blinking light, it's a constant light that shines in a couple > of directions (3-5 or so), and then > this whole contraption rotates). This means the light-beams are > never shing up or down, but just > all in one plane. The spacing between the beams is irregular, > mostly, to form the special blinking-pattern > that one sees from far (so one knows which lighthouse it is). > > http://flickr.com/photos/gina_nora_sophia/2541320670/ > http://flickr.com/photos/michaelhuge/2318327440/ > > >> Stef >> >> On Jun 13, 2008, at 1:32 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: Samuel MORELLO <samuel.morello(a)ouvanous.com> >>>> Date: June 13, 2008 1:27:25 PM CEDT >>>> To: StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos >>>> >>> <pharo-0.4.4.pdf> >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 13 juin 08 Ã 13:12, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>>> From: Oscar Nierstrasz <oscar(a)iam.unibe.ch> >>>>>> Date: June 13, 2008 12:29:32 PM CEDT >>>>>> To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an >>>>>> open-source Smalltalk <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos >>>>>> Reply-To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to >>>>>> an open-source Smalltalk <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cool graphics! >>>>>> >>>>>> But ... the first one looks too much like we are struggling in >>>>>> the fog, and the last one looks like we are about to come under >>>>>> the shadow of an eclipse (!). >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it possible to have the fog at the bottom, so the lighthouse >>>>>> is emerging from the fog? >>>>>> >>>>>> - on >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi guys >>>>>>> >>>>>>> here are some proposals >>>>>>> I like the blue one. But there have something. >>>>>>> Please comment >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Picture 2.pdf><Picture 3.pdf><Picture >>>>>>> 1.pdf>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > Marcus > -- > Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch > http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 13, 2008

[Pharo-project] call for fix: fixing browser names and stupid dead navigation that works

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys I send to this list the email I sent to the great omnibrowser developer list...... Really cool features but seems to forget the basic. if it takes me more than 5 min to find something may be the interface is BAD. Stef how with the new browser can I get class Variable refs? I ask this question for OB-Shittynamebrowser and OB- shittynamepackagebrowser. Do you expect that a newbie can find his way with browser named like that? this question quite stupid question reveals that the command if there exist are far from readable for a normal programmer. Of course feel free to think that I'm an idiot. When somebody instead of inventing new features will do a real usability analysis? Stef

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by Marcus Denker

On 13.06.2008, at 13:43, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: I like the blue one! > My remark on this one was that it may be better to get two larger > streams of light. > One thing to note is that a lighhouse does emit multiple beams at once that rotate "as a whole". (not a blinking light, it's a constant light that shines in a couple of directions (3-5 or so), and then this whole contraption rotates). This means the light-beams are never shing up or down, but just all in one plane. The spacing between the beams is irregular, mostly, to form the special blinking-pattern that one sees from far (so one knows which lighthouse it is). http://flickr.com/photos/gina_nora_sophia/2541320670/ http://flickr.com/photos/michaelhuge/2318327440/ > Stef > > On Jun 13, 2008, at 1:32 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Samuel MORELLO <samuel.morello(a)ouvanous.com> >>> Date: June 13, 2008 1:27:25 PM CEDT >>> To: StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos >>> >> <pharo-0.4.4.pdf> >>> >>> >>> Le 13 juin 08 Ã 13:12, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Oscar Nierstrasz <oscar(a)iam.unibe.ch> >>>>> Date: June 13, 2008 12:29:32 PM CEDT >>>>> To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an >>>>> open-source Smalltalk <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos >>>>> Reply-To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to >>>>> an open-source Smalltalk <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cool graphics! >>>>> >>>>> But ... the first one looks too much like we are struggling in >>>>> the fog, and the last one looks like we are about to come under >>>>> the shadow of an eclipse (!). >>>>> >>>>> Is it possible to have the fog at the bottom, so the lighthouse >>>>> is emerging from the fog? >>>>> >>>>> - on >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi guys >>>>>> >>>>>> here are some proposals >>>>>> I like the blue one. But there have something. >>>>>> Please comment >>>>>> >>>>>> Stef >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <Picture 2.pdf><Picture 3.pdf><Picture >>>>>> 1.pdf>_______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by Noury Bouraqadi

I do too. I'm wondering whether it would be better to fill the circle (lighthouse background) in white. Noury On 13 juin 08, at 13:15, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > i like the blue one as well.. > > Alexandre > > > On 13 Jun 2008, at 12:29, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > >> >> Cool graphics! >> >> But ... the first one looks too much like we are struggling in the >> fog, and the last one looks like we are about to come under the >> shadow of an eclipse (!). >> >> Is it possible to have the fog at the bottom, so the lighthouse is >> emerging from the fog? >> >> - on >> >> On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Hi guys >>> >>> here are some proposals >>> I like the blue one. But there have something. >>> Please comment >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <Picture 2.pdf><Picture 3.pdf><Picture >>> 1.pdf>_______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > Noury Bouraqadi ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Noury Bouraqadi - Enseignant/Chercheur Responsable de l'enseignement de l'informatique ARMINES - Ecole des Mines de Douai - Dept. I.A. http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/noury European Smalltalk Users Group Board http://www.esug.org ------------------------------------------------------------------

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] DNU rootsOfTheWorld

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

So Adrian I have the impression that you remove too much :) Stef On Jun 13, 2008, at 1:51 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Once loaded the latest version and update > > When I open an environment to apply refactoring > I get doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld > > Stef > > > > > > > > From: stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > To: squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > Subject: [BUG]Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld > > here insert explanation of what you were doing, suspect changes > you've made and so forth. > > 13 June 2008 1:50:10 pm > > VM: Mac OS - a SmalltalkImage > Image: Pharo0.1 [latest update: #10037] > > SecurityManager state: > Restricted: false > FileAccess: true > SocketAccess: true > Working Dir /Users/ducasse/Desktop/Pharo/Pharo0.1-10036-2008-06-10 > Trusted Dir /foobar/tooBar/forSqueak/bogus > Untrusted Dir /Users/ducasse/Library/Preferences/Squeak/Internet/My > Squeak > > Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld > Receiver: Class > Arguments and temporary variables: > aMessage: rootsOfTheWorld > Receiver's instance variables: > superclass: ClassDescription > methodDict: a MethodDictionary(#addClassVarName:->a > CompiledMethod (608) #addIn...etc... > format: 156 > instanceVariables: #('subclasses' 'name' 'classPool' > 'sharedPools' 'environment...etc... > organization: ('accessing' basicCategory basicCategory: > basicLocalSelectors bas...etc... > subclasses: an Array(ObjectTracer class PseudoContext class > ProtoObject class) > name: #Class > classPool: a Dictionary() > sharedPools: nil > environment: a SystemDictionary(lots of globals) > category: #'Kernel-Classes' > traitComposition: TBehaviorCategorization > localSelectors: an IdentitySet(#classPool: #sharing: > #removeFromSystemUnlogged ...etc... > > BrowserEnvironment>>allClassesDo: > Receiver: Smalltalk > Arguments and temporary variables: > aBlock: [] in BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: {[:each | (self > includesClass: eac...etc... > each: nil > Receiver's instance variables: > label: nil > searchStrings: nil > > BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: > Receiver: Smalltalk > Arguments and temporary variables: > aBlock: [] in BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: {[:class > | self sele...etc... > each: nil > Receiver's instance variables: > label: nil > searchStrings: nil > > BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: > Receiver: Smalltalk > Arguments and temporary variables: > aBlock: [] in OREnvironmentNode>>selectorEnvironment > {[:class :selector | selec...etc... > class: nil > sel: nil > Receiver's instance variables: > label: nil > searchStrings: nil > > > --- The full stack --- > Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld > BrowserEnvironment>>allClassesDo: > BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: > BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > OREnvironmentNode>>selectorEnvironment > ORSystemBrowser>>setMetaNode:node: > ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser > class)>>metaNode:root:selection:panels: > ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser class)>>root:selection: > ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser class)>>root: > ORSystemBrowser class(OREnvironmentBrowser class)>>on: > ORCmdSpawnEnvironment>>execute > ORCmdSpawnEnvironment(OBCommand)>>perform:orSendTo: > [] in MenuItemMorph>>invokeWithEvent: {[(selArgCount := selector > numArgs) = 0 ifTrue: [target perform: selector] ...]} > BlockContext>>ensure: > CursorWithMask(Cursor)>>showWhile: > MenuItemMorph>>invokeWithEvent: > MenuItemMorph>>mouseUp: > MenuItemMorph>>handleMouseUp: > MouseButtonEvent>>sentTo: > MenuItemMorph(Morph)>>handleEvent: > MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: > MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: > MenuItemMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: > MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: > MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: > MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: > MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent: > MenuMorph>>handleFocusEvent: > [] in HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: {[ActiveHand := self. > ActiveEvent := anEvent. result := focusHolder han...]} > [] in PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: {[aBlock value]} > BlockContext>>on:do: > PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: > HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: > HandMorph>>sendEvent:focus:clear: > HandMorph>>sendMouseEvent: > HandMorph>>handleEvent: > HandMorph>>processEvents > [] in WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: {[:h | ActiveHand := h. h > processEvents. ActiveHand := nil]} > Array(SequenceableCollection)>>do: > WorldState>>handsDo: > WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: > WorldState>>doOneCycleFor: > PasteUpMorph>>doOneCycle > [] in Project class>>spawnNewProcess {[[World doOneCycle. Processor > yield. false] whileFalse. nil]} > [] in BlockContext>>newProcess {[self value. Processor > terminateActive]} > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 13, 2008

[Pharo-project] DNU rootsOfTheWorld

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Once loaded the latest version and update When I open an environment to apply refactoring I get doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld Stef From: stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr To: squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [BUG]Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld here insert explanation of what you were doing, suspect changes you've made and so forth. 13 June 2008 1:50:10 pm VM: Mac OS - a SmalltalkImage Image: Pharo0.1 [latest update: #10037] SecurityManager state: Restricted: false FileAccess: true SocketAccess: true Working Dir /Users/ducasse/Desktop/Pharo/Pharo0.1-10036-2008-06-10 Trusted Dir /foobar/tooBar/forSqueak/bogus Untrusted Dir /Users/ducasse/Library/Preferences/Squeak/Internet/My Squeak Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld Receiver: Class Arguments and temporary variables: aMessage: rootsOfTheWorld Receiver's instance variables: superclass: ClassDescription methodDict: a MethodDictionary(#addClassVarName:->a CompiledMethod (608) #addIn...etc... format: 156 instanceVariables: #('subclasses' 'name' 'classPool' 'sharedPools' 'environment...etc... organization: ('accessing' basicCategory basicCategory: basicLocalSelectors bas...etc... subclasses: an Array(ObjectTracer class PseudoContext class ProtoObject class) name: #Class classPool: a Dictionary() sharedPools: nil environment: a SystemDictionary(lots of globals) category: #'Kernel-Classes' traitComposition: TBehaviorCategorization localSelectors: an IdentitySet(#classPool: #sharing: #removeFromSystemUnlogged ...etc... BrowserEnvironment>>allClassesDo: Receiver: Smalltalk Arguments and temporary variables: aBlock: [] in BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: {[:each | (self includesClass: eac...etc... each: nil Receiver's instance variables: label: nil searchStrings: nil BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: Receiver: Smalltalk Arguments and temporary variables: aBlock: [] in BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: {[:class | self sele...etc... each: nil Receiver's instance variables: label: nil searchStrings: nil BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: Receiver: Smalltalk Arguments and temporary variables: aBlock: [] in OREnvironmentNode>>selectorEnvironment {[:class :selector | selec...etc... class: nil sel: nil Receiver's instance variables: label: nil searchStrings: nil --- The full stack --- Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld BrowserEnvironment>>allClassesDo: BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - OREnvironmentNode>>selectorEnvironment ORSystemBrowser>>setMetaNode:node: ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser class)>>metaNode:root:selection:panels: ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser class)>>root:selection: ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser class)>>root: ORSystemBrowser class(OREnvironmentBrowser class)>>on: ORCmdSpawnEnvironment>>execute ORCmdSpawnEnvironment(OBCommand)>>perform:orSendTo: [] in MenuItemMorph>>invokeWithEvent: {[(selArgCount := selector numArgs) = 0 ifTrue: [target perform: selector] ...]} BlockContext>>ensure: CursorWithMask(Cursor)>>showWhile: MenuItemMorph>>invokeWithEvent: MenuItemMorph>>mouseUp: MenuItemMorph>>handleMouseUp: MouseButtonEvent>>sentTo: MenuItemMorph(Morph)>>handleEvent: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: MenuItemMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent: MenuMorph>>handleFocusEvent: [] in HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: {[ActiveHand := self. ActiveEvent := anEvent. result := focusHolder han...]} [] in PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: {[aBlock value]} BlockContext>>on:do: PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: HandMorph>>sendEvent:focus:clear: HandMorph>>sendMouseEvent: HandMorph>>handleEvent: HandMorph>>processEvents [] in WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: {[:h | ActiveHand := h. h processEvents. ActiveHand := nil]} Array(SequenceableCollection)>>do: WorldState>>handsDo: WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: WorldState>>doOneCycleFor: PasteUpMorph>>doOneCycle [] in Project class>>spawnNewProcess {[[World doOneCycle. Processor yield. false] whileFalse. nil]} [] in BlockContext>>newProcess {[self value. Processor terminateActive]}

June 13, 2008