June 2008 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] can you check the last update

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi all I got some funny unpublished packages and I'm a bit confused. So could you check what I did. I was harvesting MVC removal + norbert cleaning SLICE- UnimplementedCallsFix1-NorbertHartl.1 I have to find some time (argh) to improve the process and the tools. because this is far too much manual. Stef

June 25, 2008

[Pharo-project] harvested SLICE-UnimplementedCallsFix1-NorbertHartl.1.mcz

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

hi all I merged the SLICE-UnimplementedCallsFix1-NorbertHartl.1.mcz Please have a look because sometimes I'm tired and I can press load instead of merge. I will harvest the other items. Stef

June 24, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Sapphire at Smalltalk Solutions Reno ;-)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

:) I'm sure not but we will let people judge in 6 to 8 months. For now we should focus on the 0.1 release. > > ...hope Pharo is less of a gamble ;-) > > Michael

June 24, 2008

[Pharo-project] Sapphire at Smalltalk Solutions Reno ;-)

by Michael Rueger

...hope Pharo is less of a gamble ;-) Michael

June 24, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] random cleanups

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I will harvest them. I was really busy over the week-end Stef On Jun 23, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Thanks, now SLICE-RandomRemoval works for me. > Adrian > > On Jun 22, 2008, at 16:18 , Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 15:45 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>> On Jun 22, 2008, at 15:36 , Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 16:03 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>>>> The package is in the inbox but as it turns out, the slice refers >>>>> to a >>>>> version with another UUID (the file name does not matter for >>>>> resolving >>>>> the dependency). Maybe this is because you committed again with >>>>> the >>>>> same name, so it could be that the original problem was a >>>>> different >>>>> one. >>>>> >>>>> Norbert, I suggest you take a fresh image, load the 5 packages >>>>> from >>>>> the inbox and then create a new slice package and commit that too. >>>>> >>>> I took my old image and saved the slice once more. I tested to >>>> loead >>>> with a fresh image and it works now. >>> >>> It does not work... It probably works for you because you have those >>> packages in your local cache. Can you try what I suggested above? I >>> think it will work like this. >>> >> That is strange as I used I complete fresh directory without any >> package >> cache to load it back. >> >> Anyway I did all changes again created a new SLICE-RandomRemoval and >> uploaded that together. >> >> Norbert >> >>> Adrian >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Norbert >>>>> HTH, >>>>> Adrian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 21, 2008, at 13:43 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Norbert may be the package is in your local cache but failed to >>>>>> be >>>>>> uploaded. >>>>>> >>>>>> Stef >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 21, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:28 +0200, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Norbert, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I tried to load your slice, but I got "can't find dependency >>>>>>>> MorphicExtras-NorbertHartl.38" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How such a situation may occur? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know. I didn't get an error while uploading. I saved >>>>>>> the package again with the same name. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Norbert >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 20 Jun 2008, at 22:54, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I browsed a little bit through the image and found >>>>>>>>> odd things. I deleted them in >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> SLICE-RandomCleanup >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think all of them a pretty harmless changes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Norbert >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 24, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] bundles identification?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

yes but we could also idnetify packages that are only used as config map. Stef On Jun 23, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 5:25 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Hi >> >> do you see a simple way to know if a package is used as a >> configuration map >> ie >> pier-all, moose-all >> >> because I would like to avoid to be forced to attach metadata to >> any package >> and in case of bundles I would like to be able to attach meta-data >> to only >> these. > > I don't think so because we use Monticello with its dependency > mechanism and I believe a package can be a dependency of multiple > other packages. > > -- > Damien Cassou > Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good > luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 23, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] random cleanups

by Adrian Lienhard

Thanks, now SLICE-RandomRemoval works for me. Adrian On Jun 22, 2008, at 16:18 , Norbert Hartl wrote: > On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 15:45 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> On Jun 22, 2008, at 15:36 , Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 16:03 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>>> The package is in the inbox but as it turns out, the slice refers >>>> to a >>>> version with another UUID (the file name does not matter for >>>> resolving >>>> the dependency). Maybe this is because you committed again with the >>>> same name, so it could be that the original problem was a different >>>> one. >>>> >>>> Norbert, I suggest you take a fresh image, load the 5 packages from >>>> the inbox and then create a new slice package and commit that too. >>>> >>> I took my old image and saved the slice once more. I tested to loead >>> with a fresh image and it works now. >> >> It does not work... It probably works for you because you have those >> packages in your local cache. Can you try what I suggested above? I >> think it will work like this. >> > That is strange as I used I complete fresh directory without any > package > cache to load it back. > > Anyway I did all changes again created a new SLICE-RandomRemoval and > uploaded that together. > > Norbert > >> Adrian >> >> >>> >>> >>> Norbert >>>> HTH, >>>> Adrian >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 21, 2008, at 13:43 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> Norbert may be the package is in your local cache but failed to be >>>>> uploaded. >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 21, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:28 +0200, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Norbert, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried to load your slice, but I got "can't find dependency >>>>>>> MorphicExtras-NorbertHartl.38" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How such a situation may occur? >>>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know. I didn't get an error while uploading. I saved >>>>>> the package again with the same name. >>>>>> >>>>>> Norbert >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20 Jun 2008, at 22:54, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I browsed a little bit through the image and found >>>>>>>> odd things. I deleted them in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> SLICE-RandomCleanup >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think all of them a pretty harmless changes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Norbert >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 23, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] bundles identification?

by Damien Cassou

On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 5:25 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi > > do you see a simple way to know if a package is used as a configuration map > ie > pier-all, moose-all > > because I would like to avoid to be forced to attach metadata to any package > and in case of bundles I would like to be able to attach meta-data to only > these. I don't think so because we use Monticello with its dependency mechanism and I believe a package can be a dependency of multiple other packages. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 23, 2008

[Pharo-project] bundles identification?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi do you see a simple way to know if a package is used as a configuration map ie pier-all, moose-all because I would like to avoid to be forced to attach metadata to any package and in case of bundles I would like to be able to attach meta-data to only these. Sytef

June 22, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] random cleanups

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I will harvest that as soon as I have a moment. Certainly later today. Stef On Jun 22, 2008, at 4:18 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 15:45 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> On Jun 22, 2008, at 15:36 , Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 16:03 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>>> The package is in the inbox but as it turns out, the slice refers >>>> to a >>>> version with another UUID (the file name does not matter for >>>> resolving >>>> the dependency). Maybe this is because you committed again with the >>>> same name, so it could be that the original problem was a different >>>> one. >>>> >>>> Norbert, I suggest you take a fresh image, load the 5 packages from >>>> the inbox and then create a new slice package and commit that too. >>>> >>> I took my old image and saved the slice once more. I tested to loead >>> with a fresh image and it works now. >> >> It does not work... It probably works for you because you have those >> packages in your local cache. Can you try what I suggested above? I >> think it will work like this. >> > That is strange as I used I complete fresh directory without any > package > cache to load it back. > > Anyway I did all changes again created a new SLICE-RandomRemoval and > uploaded that together. > > Norbert > >> Adrian >> >> >>> >>> >>> Norbert >>>> HTH, >>>> Adrian >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 21, 2008, at 13:43 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> Norbert may be the package is in your local cache but failed to be >>>>> uploaded. >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 21, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:28 +0200, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Norbert, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried to load your slice, but I got "can't find dependency >>>>>>> MorphicExtras-NorbertHartl.38" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How such a situation may occur? >>>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know. I didn't get an error while uploading. I saved >>>>>> the package again with the same name. >>>>>> >>>>>> Norbert >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20 Jun 2008, at 22:54, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I browsed a little bit through the image and found >>>>>>>> odd things. I deleted them in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> SLICE-RandomCleanup >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think all of them a pretty harmless changes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Norbert >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 22, 2008