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Re: [Pharo-project] Call for help

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I went over all the submissions in the inbox. Thanks for them. I will try to harvest them but I'm buzzy right now (and dead). Stef On May 28, 2008, at 3:18 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Ok > >> Ok, looks like you corrected the same method : Color>>printHtmlString >> than my patch in PharoInbox. >> I will repropose my patch because it solve also an another bug. >> You could move : Graphics-SergeStinckwich.46.mcz to PharoInboxTreated > > I moved it to Treated. > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for help

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Ok > Ok, looks like you corrected the same method : Color>>printHtmlString > than my patch in PharoInbox. > I will repropose my patch because it solve also an another bug. > You could move : Graphics-SergeStinckwich.46.mcz to PharoInboxTreated I moved it to Treated. Stef

May 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Why 3 projects ?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Yes and not published but not used packages in inbox and pharo. Stef On May 28, 2008, at 12:36 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > > I think it makes a lot of sense. > > Pharo is the current release. > > PharoInbox helps the admins to keep track of what needs to be > blessed. PharoTreeted is the archive. > > Otherwise you can easily lose track of what needs to be done. > Simple and effective. > > - on > > > On May 28, 2008, at 11:13, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > >> Stef, i was wondering : why not use just one SqueakSource project >> (Pharo) instead of three (Pharo, PharoInbox, PharoTreated) ? >> You are worrying about the scalability ? >> You just need to select from time to time which package will be >> blessed and include them in the official update list. >> >> -- >> Serge Stinckwich >> http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Why 3 projects ?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I prefer to make clear separation like that in the repository we will not have branches. Stef On May 28, 2008, at 11:13 AM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > Stef, i was wondering : why not use just one SqueakSource project > (Pharo) instead of three (Pharo, PharoInbox, PharoTreated) ? > You are worrying about the scalability ? > You just need to select from time to time which package will be > blessed and include them in the official update list. > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for help

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

ok thanks On May 27, 2008, at 10:29 PM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > Ok, looks like you corrected the same method : Color>>printHtmlString > than my patch in PharoInbox. > I will repropose my patch because it solve also an another bug. > You could move : Graphics-SergeStinckwich.46.mcz to PharoInboxTreated > > 2008/5/27 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> Hi guys >> >> We fixed a couple of tests and removed useless ones with lukas. >> We just published a new update. So please update and let us know. >> >> Stef >> >> On May 27, 2008, at 2:40 PM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: >> >>> I'm used to write tests in an XP way. Look for example at my tests >>> in : >>> >>> BTW, i'm trying to run all the tests in the last Pharo image. >>> There is 2162 tests, but there is a problem beacuse SemaphoreTests >>> are >>> running forever ... >>> >>> 2008/5/27 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >>>>> >>>>> Maybe you coul split them in smaller tests ? >>>> >>>> You feel this is necessary. I tried to express one scenario into >>>> one test >>>> method. >>>> Does anyone share Serge's feeling? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I add a patch for the Color class in PharoInbox. All the Color >>>>> tests >>>>> are green now ;-) >>>>> >>>>> 2008/5/27 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >>>>>> >>>>>> I added some tests in PharoInBox. >>>>>> I will refine them over the time... >>>>>> >>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 24 May 2008, at 19:11, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi guys >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I saw that PackageInfo does not have any tests. >>>>>>> It would be great if someone could write a couple of tests. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> stef >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Serge Stinckwich >>>>> http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Serge Stinckwich >>> http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for help

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi victor By default you cannot really update only one change, you get all until the last one. But you could modify the update method to specify a number to which the update stream will. Have a look at the Utilities class. Stef On May 27, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Victor Rodriguez wrote: > On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> The image should not crash anymore when running all the tests. As >> well >> as there should no morphs stay open. More tests are fixed, but some >> are still broken. > > Great, I could run all unit tests. There are 15 failures for me. > > Is there an easy way to inspect updates? > > With the Monticello browser I can see that I have a > "http://squeaksource.com/Pharo" repository, but to me there is no > obvious link between the packages in that repository and the updates > in the update stream. > > Also, is there a way to selectively apply updates? For example, what > if I would like to apply one update and play with the system a bit > before applying the next update? > > Salut, > > Victor Rodriguez. > >> Lukas >> >> On 5/27/08, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: >>> I just updated. Browsers still open :-) Is there anything in >>> particular to >>> check? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> >>> On 27 May 2008, at 19:03, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi guys >>>> >>>> We fixed a couple of tests and removed useless ones with lukas. >>>> We just published a new update. So please update and let us know. >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> On May 27, 2008, at 2:40 PM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'm used to write tests in an XP way. Look for example at my >>>>> tests in : >>>>> >>>>> BTW, i'm trying to run all the tests in the last Pharo image. >>>>> There is 2162 tests, but there is a problem beacuse >>>>> SemaphoreTests are >>>>> running forever ... >>>>> >>>>> 2008/5/27 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe you coul split them in smaller tests ? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You feel this is necessary. I tried to express one scenario >>>>>> into one >>> test >>>>>> method. >>>>>> Does anyone share Serge's feeling? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I add a patch for the Color class in PharoInbox. All the Color >>>>>>> tests >>>>>>> are green now ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2008/5/27 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I added some tests in PharoInBox. >>>>>>>> I will refine them over the time... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 24 May 2008, at 19:11, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi guys >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I saw that PackageInfo does not have any tests. >>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone could write a couple of tests. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> stef >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>>> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Serge Stinckwich >>>>>>> http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Serge Stinckwich >>>>> http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Why 3 projects ?

by Oscar Nierstrasz

I think it makes a lot of sense. Pharo is the current release. PharoInbox helps the admins to keep track of what needs to be blessed. PharoTreeted is the archive. Otherwise you can easily lose track of what needs to be done. Simple and effective. - on On May 28, 2008, at 11:13, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > Stef, i was wondering : why not use just one SqueakSource project > (Pharo) instead of three (Pharo, PharoInbox, PharoTreated) ? > You are worrying about the scalability ? > You just need to select from time to time which package will be > blessed and include them in the official update list. > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 28, 2008

[Pharo-project] Why 3 projects ?

by Serge Stinckwich

Stef, i was wondering : why not use just one SqueakSource project (Pharo) instead of three (Pharo, PharoInbox, PharoTreated) ? You are worrying about the scalability ? You just need to select from time to time which package will be blessed and include them in the official update list. -- Serge Stinckwich http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/

May 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Message for admin

by Alexandre Bergel

Thanks Marcus and Oscar, It should work now. Cheers, Alexandre On 27 May 2008, at 21:43, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On 27.05.2008, at 14:05, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> I spent some time on trying to set the mailing list email the >> default Reply-To: field, but obviously I failed. Is there any >> mailman guru here? > > There is on the main config page an option: > > Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is strongly > recommended for most mailing lists. > > set it to "This list". > > Marcus > -- > Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch > http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

May 27, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for help

by Serge Stinckwich

Ok, nice job ! After running the tests there is a lot of remainding files generated. I started to work on the cleaning. I already something about this in PharoInbox. 2008/5/27 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>: > The image should not crash anymore when running all the tests. As well > as there should no morphs stay open. More tests are fixed, but some > are still broken. > > Lukas > > On 5/27/08, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: >> I just updated. Browsers still open :-) Is there anything in particular to >> check? >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> >> On 27 May 2008, at 19:03, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >> >> > Hi guys >> > >> > We fixed a couple of tests and removed useless ones with lukas. >> > We just published a new update. So please update and let us know. >> > >> > Stef >> > >> > On May 27, 2008, at 2:40 PM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: >> > >> > >> > > I'm used to write tests in an XP way. Look for example at my tests in : >> > > >> > > BTW, i'm trying to run all the tests in the last Pharo image. >> > > There is 2162 tests, but there is a problem beacuse SemaphoreTests are >> > > running forever ... >> > > >> > > 2008/5/27 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > Maybe you coul split them in smaller tests ? >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > You feel this is necessary. I tried to express one scenario into one >> test >> > > > method. >> > > > Does anyone share Serge's feeling? >> > > > >> > > > Cheers, >> > > > Alexandre >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > I add a patch for the Color class in PharoInbox. All the Color tests >> > > > > are green now ;-) >> > > > > >> > > > > 2008/5/27 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I added some tests in PharoInBox. >> > > > > > I will refine them over the time... >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Alexandre >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On 24 May 2008, at 19:11, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hi guys >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I saw that PackageInfo does not have any tests. >> > > > > > > It would be great if someone could write a couple of tests. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > stef >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > > > Pharo-project mailing list >> > > > > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > > > > > > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > -- >> > > > > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> > > > > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> > > > > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > > Pharo-project mailing list >> > > > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > > > > > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > Serge Stinckwich >> > > > > http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/ >> > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > Pharo-project mailing list >> > > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > > > > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> > > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> > > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Pharo-project mailing list >> > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > > > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Serge Stinckwich >> > > http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/ >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Pharo-project mailing list >> > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Serge Stinckwich http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/

May 27, 2008