December 2008 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] IRC Channel

by Benoit St-Jean

Hello again, I couldn't find the info on Google but is there a #pharo channel on IRC and if so, on what server? Thank you! ----------------- Benoit St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. (Albert Einstein)

Dec. 10, 2008

[Pharo-project] ODBC package bugs

by Benoit St-Jean

Hello everyone, Since I am not familiar with the Pharo process for reporting/fixing bugs, here's a quick email to let you know what I have found by loading (in order) FFI, ODBC and ODBCEnh packages from SqueakMap FYI : Loading the "ODBC for Squeak" package from SqueakMap into Pharo breaks 8 unit tests (4 failures, 4 errors), namely: 1) TimeStampTest>>#testPrintOn 2) TimeStampTest>>#testPrinting 3) TimeStampTest>>#testStoreOn 4) TimeTest>>#testTimeStamp 5) DateAndTimeLeapTest>>#testAsTimeStamp 6) TimeStampTest>>#testInstanceCreation 7) TimeStampTest>>#testReadFromA1 8) TimespanTest>>#testAsTimeStamp On a different topic, doing a string search in the code (menu item "method source with it") creates a walkback because : AbstractObjectsAsMethod(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #getSourceFor:in: Also, I have noticed that if I want to mail a bug report from the debugger, the address the email would be sent to is squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org instead of a "Pharo" one. Hope this helps. Thank you. ----------------- Benoit St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. (Albert Einstein)

Dec. 10, 2008

[Pharo-project] Interaction with Java

by Alexandre Bergel

Dear List, Something is trotting in my head for few weeks. According to the mails exchanged on this list, it seems that interacting with C is of a high priority. I was wondering whether you had a similar need for talking to the Java world. Few months ago, I worked on Athena, a small Smalltalk VM written in Java. It can be interfaced with Squeak. This means that within Squeak, you can create Java objects and talking directly to them within Squeak. Is there anyone who need this? I am ready to continue on this, but I would like to be use case driven. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 10, 2008

[Pharo-project] Fwd: Issue 384: copy and paste does not work in MC diff view

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Begin forwarded message: > From: "Gary Chambers" <gary(a)pinesoft.co.uk> > Date: December 10, 2008 5:53:07 PM CEST > To: Stephane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Subject: RE: Issue 384: copy and paste does not work in MC diff view > > Polymorph-Widgets.gvc.23 (on SqueakSource) has the copy capability for > disabled TextEditorMorph (and subclasses). I've added a note to the > tracker. > > Regards, Gary. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephane Ducasse [mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] >> Sent: 10 December 2008 4:29 PM >> To: Gary Chambers >> Subject: Re: Issue 384: copy and paste does not work in MC diff view >> >> >> >> On Dec 10, 2008, at 5:22 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: >> >>> Managed it (copy from disabled TextEditorMorph) though reminded me >>> why I >>> hate Paragraph/TextMorphForEditView etc. so much. Really, really >>> horrible... >>> Given that MVC is gone in Pharo the whole thing could do with being >>> reworked >>> into less spaghetti. >> >> Excellent! >> Yes the goal of the first fat removal is to enable agility >> >> Stef >> >>> >>> >>> Reagrds, Gary. >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Stephane Ducasse [mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] >>>> Sent: 10 December 2008 1:34 PM >>>> To: Gary Chambers >>>> Subject: Re: Issue 384: copy and paste does not work in MC diff >>>> view >>>> >>>> >>>> I understand I do not think we want paste but just copy >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> On Dec 10, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: >>>> >>>>> As indicated in the last email with attached email, MC does not >>>>> currently >>>>> support modification of changes/conflicts hence the text editors >>>>> are >>>>> disabled. I can see a case for "copy" but not paste. Unfortunately >>>>> keyboard >>>>> handling in Paragraph is somewhat convoluted, hence disablement >>>>> effectively >>>>> ignoring keyboard input totally. I guess I could separately >>>>> handle a >>>>> copy >>>>> opertation when disabled... >>>>> >>>>> Like I said though, I eventually envisage a third text pane >>>>> showing >>>>> the >>>>> composited method after taking the choices with the arrows with >>>>> the >>>>> ability >>>>> to manually modify before commiting, somehow! >>>>> >>>>> Regards, Gary >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Stephane Ducasse [mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] >>>>>> Sent: 10 December 2008 1:05 PM >>>>>> To: Gary Chambers >>>>>> Subject: Issue 384: copy and paste does not work in MC diff view >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=384&colspec=ID >>>>>> %20T >>>>>> ype%20Status%20Summary&start=100 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Consider your responsibility to the environment - think before you >>>>> print! >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ****************************************************************** >>>> >> ************************************************************************ >>>>> This email is from Pinesoft Limited. Its contents are confidential >>>>> to the intended recipient(s) at the email address(es) to which it >>>>> has been addressed. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone >>>>> other than the addressee(s), nor may it be copied in anyway. If >>>>> received in error, please contact the sender, then delete it from >>>>> your system. Although this email and attachments are believed to >>>>> be >>>>> free of virus, or any other defect which might affect any computer >>>>> or IT system into which they are received and opened, it is the >>>>> responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they are virus free >>>>> and no responsibility is accepted by Pinesoft for any loss or >>>>> damage >>>>> arising in any way from receipt or use thereof. >>>>> >>>> ****************************************************************** >>>> >> ************************************************************************* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pinesoft Limited are registered in England, Registered number: >>>>> 2914825. Registered office: 266-268 High Street, Waltham Cross, >>>>> Herts, EN8 7EA >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >

Dec. 10, 2008

[Pharo-project] Fwd: Issue 384: copy and paste does not work in MC diff view

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Begin forwarded message: > From: "Gary Chambers" <gary(a)pinesoft.co.uk> > Date: December 10, 2008 5:53:07 PM CEST > To: Stephane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Subject: RE: Issue 384: copy and paste does not work in MC diff view > > Polymorph-Widgets.gvc.23 (on SqueakSource) has the copy capability for > disabled TextEditorMorph (and subclasses). I've added a note to the > tracker. > > Regards, Gary. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephane Ducasse [mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] >> Sent: 10 December 2008 4:29 PM >> To: Gary Chambers >> Subject: Re: Issue 384: copy and paste does not work in MC diff view >> >> >> >> On Dec 10, 2008, at 5:22 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: >> >>> Managed it (copy from disabled TextEditorMorph) though reminded me >>> why I >>> hate Paragraph/TextMorphForEditView etc. so much. Really, really >>> horrible... >>> Given that MVC is gone in Pharo the whole thing could do with being >>> reworked >>> into less spaghetti. >> >> Excellent! >> Yes the goal of the first fat removal is to enable agility >> >> Stef >> >>> >>> >>> Reagrds, Gary. >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Stephane Ducasse [mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] >>>> Sent: 10 December 2008 1:34 PM >>>> To: Gary Chambers >>>> Subject: Re: Issue 384: copy and paste does not work in MC diff >>>> view >>>> >>>> >>>> I understand I do not think we want paste but just copy >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> On Dec 10, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: >>>> >>>>> As indicated in the last email with attached email, MC does not >>>>> currently >>>>> support modification of changes/conflicts hence the text editors >>>>> are >>>>> disabled. I can see a case for "copy" but not paste. Unfortunately >>>>> keyboard >>>>> handling in Paragraph is somewhat convoluted, hence disablement >>>>> effectively >>>>> ignoring keyboard input totally. I guess I could separately >>>>> handle a >>>>> copy >>>>> opertation when disabled... >>>>> >>>>> Like I said though, I eventually envisage a third text pane >>>>> showing >>>>> the >>>>> composited method after taking the choices with the arrows with >>>>> the >>>>> ability >>>>> to manually modify before commiting, somehow! >>>>> >>>>> Regards, Gary >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Stephane Ducasse [mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] >>>>>> Sent: 10 December 2008 1:05 PM >>>>>> To: Gary Chambers >>>>>> Subject: Issue 384: copy and paste does not work in MC diff view >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=384&colspec=ID >>>>>> %20T >>>>>> ype%20Status%20Summary&start=100 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Consider your responsibility to the environment - think before you >>>>> print! >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ****************************************************************** >>>> >> ************************************************************************ >>>>> This email is from Pinesoft Limited. Its contents are confidential >>>>> to the intended recipient(s) at the email address(es) to which it >>>>> has been addressed. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone >>>>> other than the addressee(s), nor may it be copied in anyway. If >>>>> received in error, please contact the sender, then delete it from >>>>> your system. Although this email and attachments are believed to >>>>> be >>>>> free of virus, or any other defect which might affect any computer >>>>> or IT system into which they are received and opened, it is the >>>>> responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they are virus free >>>>> and no responsibility is accepted by Pinesoft for any loss or >>>>> damage >>>>> arising in any way from receipt or use thereof. >>>>> >>>> ****************************************************************** >>>> >> ************************************************************************* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pinesoft Limited are registered in England, Registered number: >>>>> 2914825. Registered office: 266-268 High Street, Waltham Cross, >>>>> Herts, EN8 7EA >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >

Dec. 10, 2008

[Pharo-project] Redrawing bug ?

by Damien Pollet

There is something funny with the latest pharo, apparently it is redrawing something in a loop. Counting Squeak + WindowServer this amounts to quite a lot of CPU (60-80%). Using QuartzDebug, it seems OB continually redraws the horizontal splitter between the columns and the status line above the buttons. -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet

Dec. 10, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI, Aliens et ODBC.

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> Bonjour Ã tous, Bienvenu this is an english speaking mailing-list but some of us understand french :) > Deux petites questions pour Ã©clairer ma lanterne. > > 1) Est-ce que la VM de Pharo a Ã©tÃ© modifiÃ©e par rapport Ã la VM de > Squeak? En fait, ce que je dÃ©sire savoir c'est si Pharo supporte le > FFI dans l'Ã©ventualitÃ© oÃ¹ je voudrais porter les "packages" ODBC sur > Pharo. Normalement oui - translation normally yes :) > 2) Est-ce que Pharo projette d'intÃ©grer l'interface Aliens de Eliot > Miranda ou bien vous planifiez de rester avec l'implÃ©mentation > actuelle et FFI ? John is working on that. > 3) Est-ce qu'il y a quelqu'un qui travaille actuellement sur un > "port" de ODBC sur Pharo ? Not that I know and we would be happy to get somebody pushing that part :) > > > merci. > > ----------------- > Benoit St-Jean > Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean > Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com > A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. > (Albert Einstein) > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 10, 2008

[Pharo-project] about test icons

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi david I found a bug :) when you let the mouse over a class icon (showing some broken tests) DNU testMorePassedLabel Else if would be great that when we click on the icons we can rerun the test from there or debug them :) Stef

Dec. 10, 2008

[Pharo-project] FFI, Aliens et ODBC.

by Benoit St-Jean

Bonjour Ã tous, Deux petites questions pour Ã©clairer ma lanterne. 1) Est-ce que la VM de Pharo a Ã©tÃ© modifiÃ©e par rapport Ã la VM de Squeak? En fait, ce que je dÃ©sire savoir c'est si Pharo supporte le FFI dans l'Ã©ventualitÃ© oÃ¹ je voudrais porter les "packages" ODBC sur Pharo. 2) Est-ce que Pharo projette d'intÃ©grer l'interface Aliens de Eliot Miranda ou bien vous planifiez de rester avec l'implÃ©mentation actuelle et FFI ? 3) Est-ce qu'il y a quelqu'un qui travaille actuellement sur un "port" de ODBC sur Pharo ? merci. ----------------- Benoit St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. (Albert Einstein)

Dec. 10, 2008

[Pharo-project] news icons and navigation

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi david the navigation with the icons is really cool. The new icons too :) I could spot super with different selectors in no time. Lukas you should have a look no super read different super black simple super green on associationsDo: for example we should keep that for a use study. now I was thinking that it would be great to have an icon for a class using traits and a traits used so that we could navigate the same as for the methods because clicking on the icon is cool Stef

Dec. 10, 2008